CONCACAF U-15 Boys Championship

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Anonymous wrote:The Golden Boot winner who plays for Mexico

Da'vian Kimbrough is a 15-year-old professional soccer player for Sacramento Republic FC, who became the youngest professional athlete in American team sports history when he signed with the club at the age of 13. He plays as a forward and is known for his goal-scoring ability, having played for the club's academy teams before signing with the first team

What is his development story? Did he grow up in the Mexican OR the American youth systems (Or someplace else)? That info is central to this discussion.

Sorry to disrupt the narrative. He’s been developed in the American system.

Also, looks like he has an American dad. He COULD be on the US team!

Several players in this tournament could have played for America
Instead they chose their other citizenship especially if they're not with one of the few political clout MLS clubs that always get USYNT selections

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Golden Boot winner who plays for Mexico

Da'vian Kimbrough is a 15-year-old professional soccer player for Sacramento Republic FC, who became the youngest professional athlete in American team sports history when he signed with the club at the age of 13. He plays as a forward and is known for his goal-scoring ability, having played for the club's academy teams before signing with the first team

What is his development story? Did he grow up in the Mexican OR the American youth systems (Or someplace else)? That info is central to this discussion.

Sorry to disrupt the narrative. He’s been developed in the American system.

He's just a big athletic kid that is already a man at 15...why he can play with men no problem. He scores goals because he is a man amongst boys.

You do know being big and athletic isn't a negative thing or rare in the universal soccer world.
He's always playing up and scoring goals, so he clearly has the other skills and attributes required.

[Anonymous]

19 of Mexico’s 24 total goals in the tournament were scored by Mexican-Americans

Da’vian Kimbrough (6) (Sacramento Republics)
Juan Martinez (5) (LA Galaxy)
Matthew Arana (3) (Houston Dynamo)
Paxon Ruffin (3) (Monterrey)
Dylan Reyes (1) (Houston Dynamo)
Lisandro Torres (1) (LAFC)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: 19 of Mexico’s 24 total goals in the tournament were scored by Mexican-Americans

Da’vian Kimbrough (6) (Sacramento Republics)
Juan Martinez (5) (LA Galaxy)
Matthew Arana (3) (Houston Dynamo)
Paxon Ruffin (3) (Monterrey)
Dylan Reyes (1) (Houston Dynamo)
Lisandro Torres (1) (LAFC)

Geez ... So, really, something ELSE is happening here than a complete indictment on our youth ecosystem. Why Mexico instead of the US? Do these players think the US coaches stink? Politics? What?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Golden Boot winner who plays for Mexico

Da'vian Kimbrough is a 15-year-old professional soccer player for Sacramento Republic FC, who became the youngest professional athlete in American team sports history when he signed with the club at the age of 13. He plays as a forward and is known for his goal-scoring ability, having played for the club's academy teams before signing with the first team

What is his development story? Did he grow up in the Mexican OR the American youth systems (Or someplace else)? That info is central to this discussion.

Sorry to disrupt the narrative. He’s been developed in the American system.

He's just a big athletic kid that is already a man at 15...why he can play with men no problem. He scores goals because he is a man amongst boys.

You do know being big and athletic isn't a negative thing or rare in the universal soccer world.
He's always playing up and scoring goals, so he clearly has the other skills and attributes required.

Spoken like a true American. Look up the average size of a professional footballer...you need to be big in two positions, goalie and center back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: 19 of Mexico’s 24 total goals in the tournament were scored by Mexican-Americans

Da’vian Kimbrough (6) (Sacramento Republics)
Juan Martinez (5) (LA Galaxy)
Matthew Arana (3) (Houston Dynamo)
Paxon Ruffin (3) (Monterrey)
Dylan Reyes (1) (Houston Dynamo)
Lisandro Torres (1) (LAFC)

Geez ... So, really, something ELSE is happening here than a complete indictment on our youth ecosystem. Why Mexico instead of the US? Do these players think the US coaches stink? Politics? What?

US coaches are not good generally. Of course there are some outliers, but at most academies you have weaker coaching slates. Very political system with some clubs getting preferred over others for the youth national teams, thinking about the game is unsophisticated and weak across the system. higher ceiling to play with Mexico than with the US as you progress through their national team. Mexico has more respect internationally as well of you're looking at an international transfer. US is of course getting better...

It is a massive middle finger to the US to play for Mexico when you're a US citizen. It tells you just about everything you need to know about soccer in our country right there. Mexico also has a much stronger culture in the country wrt soccer and it understands the game more intimately.

5-0 is not a win, it is one team dominating the other. And that is what Mexico did to the US team. Again, for the amount of organized soccer we have in this country, we are massively underachieving with respect to youth development. All you have to do is watch the game against Mexico. We were outclassed in almost every position and in the first half, we looked like we were up against a FAR superior team. Second half was better but at that point Mexico had made subs, wasn't trying to score as aggressively and they still won the half 1-0.

If you have a youth player in the US system that aspires to do something other than college, your chances are much weaker in this system. Those players who chose Mexico over the US did so because there is more infrastructure and money here and less competition because the players overall are weaker. They can dominate and build confidence easier in the US. And that showed clearly when they went up against the top US talent yesterday. The best US eligible players at u15 aren't playing in the US, the are already overseas. You see this on our men's national team and this trend has already started at the youth ages. The US eligible talent that is playing in Europe, South America, or elsewhere outside of the US would absolutely destroy the roster that was put out there for this tournament. It is that simple.

BUT, the USSF cannot put all of those players on the squad because it would be a tacit admission that our own system can't produce the players that have the quality we need. Which is the truth. THAT is the real issue at play here and why you don't see as many European or South American based players getting called up. But you see them filling the men's national team because at that point it isn't about propping up the sorry US youth system.

[Anonymous]

If Mexico is so great, then why do those 5 players play in the US youth system? Why only on their national team?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Mexico is so great, then why do those 5 players play in the US youth system? Why only on their national team?

Because for living purposes it’s better the US, for their football/soccer dreams and ambitions purposes almost anything is better than US

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Mexico is so great, then why do those 5 players play in the US youth system? Why only on their national team?

MLS pays more than Liga. and closer to home than Europe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Golden Boot winner who plays for Mexico

Da'vian Kimbrough is a 15-year-old professional soccer player for Sacramento Republic FC, who became the youngest professional athlete in American team sports history when he signed with the club at the age of 13. He plays as a forward and is known for his goal-scoring ability, having played for the club's academy teams before signing with the first team

What is his development story? Did he grow up in the Mexican OR the American youth systems (Or someplace else)? That info is central to this discussion.

Sorry to disrupt the narrative. He’s been developed in the American system.

He's just a big athletic kid that is already a man at 15...why he can play with men no problem. He scores goals because he is a man amongst boys.

You do know being big and athletic isn't a negative thing or rare in the universal soccer world.
He's always playing up and scoring goals, so he clearly has the other skills and attributes required.

Spoken like a true American. Look up the average size of a professional footballer...you need to be big in two positions, goalie and center back.

Yes, because we see all these midgets in the Premier League and other European top professional leagues

The small player is the exception.

Only a shallow mind lacking knowledge doesn't realize big and athletic can also have technical skills and high IQ

Jude Bellingham for one of many examples

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: 19 of Mexico’s 24 total goals in the tournament were scored by Mexican-Americans

Da’vian Kimbrough (6) (Sacramento Republics)
Juan Martinez (5) (LA Galaxy)
Matthew Arana (3) (Houston Dynamo)
Paxon Ruffin (3) (Monterrey)
Dylan Reyes (1) (Houston Dynamo)
Lisandro Torres (1) (LAFC)

Geez ... So, really, something ELSE is happening here than a complete indictment on our youth ecosystem. Why Mexico instead of the US? Do these players think the US coaches stink? Politics? What?

US coaches are not good generally. Of course there are some outliers, but at most academies you have weaker coaching slates. Very political system with some clubs getting preferred over others for the youth national teams, thinking about the game is unsophisticated and weak across the system. higher ceiling to play with Mexico than with the US as you progress through their national team. Mexico has more respect internationally as well of you're looking at an international transfer. US is of course getting better...

It is a massive middle finger to the US to play for Mexico when you're a US citizen. It tells you just about everything you need to know about soccer in our country right there. Mexico also has a much stronger culture in the country wrt soccer and it understands the game more intimately.

5-0 is not a win, it is one team dominating the other. And that is what Mexico did to the US team. Again, for the amount of organized soccer we have in this country, we are massively underachieving with respect to youth development. All you have to do is watch the game against Mexico. We were outclassed in almost every position and in the first half, we looked like we were up against a FAR superior team. Second half was better but at that point Mexico had made subs, wasn't trying to score as aggressively and they still won the half 1-0.

If you have a youth player in the US system that aspires to do something other than college, your chances are much weaker in this system. Those players who chose Mexico over the US did so because there is more infrastructure and money here and less competition because the players overall are weaker. They can dominate and build confidence easier in the US. And that showed clearly when they went up against the top US talent yesterday. The best US eligible players at u15 aren't playing in the US, the are already overseas. You see this on our men's national team and this trend has already started at the youth ages. The US eligible talent that is playing in Europe, South America, or elsewhere outside of the US would absolutely destroy the roster that was put out there for this tournament. It is that simple.

BUT, the USSF cannot put all of those players on the squad because it would be a tacit admission that our own system can't produce the players that have the quality we need. Which is the truth. THAT is the real issue at play here and why you don't see as many European or South American based players getting called up. But you see them filling the men's national team because at that point it isn't about propping up the sorry US youth system.

True and Truth

Several American 2010's are at big academies in Europe
They are technically and cognitively levels above who represented us against Mexico

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: 19 of Mexico’s 24 total goals in the tournament were scored by Mexican-Americans

Da’vian Kimbrough (6) (Sacramento Republics)
Juan Martinez (5) (LA Galaxy)
Matthew Arana (3) (Houston Dynamo)
Paxon Ruffin (3) (Monterrey)
Dylan Reyes (1) (Houston Dynamo)
Lisandro Torres (1) (LAFC)

Geez ... So, really, something ELSE is happening here than a complete indictment on our youth ecosystem. Why Mexico instead of the US? Do these players think the US coaches stink? Politics? What?

US coaches are not good generally. Of course there are some outliers, but at most academies you have weaker coaching slates. Very political system with some clubs getting preferred over others for the youth national teams, thinking about the game is unsophisticated and weak across the system. higher ceiling to play with Mexico than with the US as you progress through their national team. Mexico has more respect internationally as well of you're looking at an international transfer. US is of course getting better...

It is a massive middle finger to the US to play for Mexico when you're a US citizen. It tells you just about everything you need to know about soccer in our country right there. Mexico also has a much stronger culture in the country wrt soccer and it understands the game more intimately.

5-0 is not a win, it is one team dominating the other. And that is what Mexico did to the US team. Again, for the amount of organized soccer we have in this country, we are massively underachieving with respect to youth development. All you have to do is watch the game against Mexico. We were outclassed in almost every position and in the first half, we looked like we were up against a FAR superior team. Second half was better but at that point Mexico had made subs, wasn't trying to score as aggressively and they still won the half 1-0.

If you have a youth player in the US system that aspires to do something other than college, your chances are much weaker in this system. Those players who chose Mexico over the US did so because there is more infrastructure and money here and less competition because the players overall are weaker. They can dominate and build confidence easier in the US. And that showed clearly when they went up against the top US talent yesterday. The best US eligible players at u15 aren't playing in the US, the are already overseas. You see this on our men's national team and this trend has already started at the youth ages. The US eligible talent that is playing in Europe, South America, or elsewhere outside of the US would absolutely destroy the roster that was put out there for this tournament. It is that simple.

BUT, the USSF cannot put all of those players on the squad because it would be a tacit admission that our own system can't produce the players that have the quality we need. Which is the truth. THAT is the real issue at play here and why you don't see as many European or South American based players getting called up. But you see them filling the men's national team because at that point it isn't about propping up the sorry US youth system.

Jurgen Klinsmann became public enemy #1 for moving back the curtain and revealing the Foreign developed American players made a stronger National team

[Anonymous]

Seems like the rest of our society. We overpay for mediocre quality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems like the rest of our society. We overpay for mediocre quality.

But we get to brag how much we pay 🤣

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Golden Boot winner who plays for Mexico

Da'vian Kimbrough is a 15-year-old professional soccer player for Sacramento Republic FC, who became the youngest professional athlete in American team sports history when he signed with the club at the age of 13. He plays as a forward and is known for his goal-scoring ability, having played for the club's academy teams before signing with the first team

What is his development story? Did he grow up in the Mexican OR the American youth systems (Or someplace else)? That info is central to this discussion.

Sorry to disrupt the narrative. He’s been developed in the American system.

He's just a big athletic kid that is already a man at 15...why he can play with men no problem. He scores goals because he is a man amongst boys.

You do know being big and athletic isn't a negative thing or rare in the universal soccer world.
He's always playing up and scoring goals, so he clearly has the other skills and attributes required.

Spoken like a true American. Look up the average size of a professional footballer...you need to be big in two positions, goalie and center back.

Yes, because we see all these midgets in the Premier League and other European top professional leagues

The small player is the exception.

Only a shallow mind lacking knowledge doesn't realize big and athletic can also have technical skills and high IQ

Jude Bellingham for one of many examples

BELLINGHAM IS THE EXCEPTION. Why he is such a beast. The average size of a professional footballer is about 5'8. That is not big by any stretch of the imagination