CONCACAF U-15 Boys Championship

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It actually 100% Proves The Point that you can't start soccer as late as HS ages and make it to the top levels
Because there are no examples

I believe PP's point was that there are almost no examples of Americans who made it to the top levels of soccer even after having started early. When you're dealing with such small sample sizes, drawing any kinds of conclusions regarding causality is flawed.

Is this a joke?
Americans are playing and having been playing college soccer and in professional ranks for decades.

No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age.

There are several examples of basketball and football players who started at HS ages

"Top levels" meaning key player on Real Madrid, Barcelona, PSG, and Bayern Munich, not just some run of the mill pro club.

You only know 4 clubs? lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It actually 100% Proves The Point that you can't start soccer as late as HS ages and make it to the top levels
Because there are no examples

I believe PP's point was that there are almost no examples of Americans who made it to the top levels of soccer even after having started early. When you're dealing with such small sample sizes, drawing any kinds of conclusions regarding causality is flawed.

Is this a joke?
Americans are playing and having been playing college soccer and in professional ranks for decades.

No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age.

There are several examples of basketball and football players who started at HS ages

Alex Morgan - Age 14 - Now we all watch the fun.

"She was a multi-sport athlete growing up and began playing soccer at an early age with the American Youth Soccer Organization (AYSO) and her father was among her first coaches"

Started club soccer at 14

That all said, which European top tier men's team did she play for?

Read your quote in bold above again there sport. Moving goalposts only shows you are wrong. Having said that do you not consider someone who is notably one of the best US soccer players ever successful? Do they have to play in the premier league or is US National team good enough? Just want to know what your rules are before you move them again.

[Anonymous]

Since this guy is obviously a joker who will narrow the goalposts over and over and never admit his is wrong. Let's throw this one out there.

Matt Turner - 16 - Arsenal

Does that count or are you moving the goalposts again such that goalies don't count, or are you considering Arsenal not a top men's European team?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It actually 100% Proves The Point that you can't start soccer as late as HS ages and make it to the top levels
Because there are no examples

I believe PP's point was that there are almost no examples of Americans who made it to the top levels of soccer even after having started early. When you're dealing with such small sample sizes, drawing any kinds of conclusions regarding causality is flawed.

Is this a joke?
Americans are playing and having been playing college soccer and in professional ranks for decades.

No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age.

There are several examples of basketball and football players who started at HS ages

Alex Morgan - Age 14 - Now we all watch the fun.

"She was a multi-sport athlete growing up and began playing soccer at an early age with the American Youth Soccer Organization (AYSO) and her father was among her first coaches"

Started club soccer at 14

That all said, which European top tier men's team did she play for?

Read your quote in bold above again there sport. Moving goalposts only shows you are wrong. Having said that do you not consider someone who is notably one of the best US soccer players ever successful? Do they have to play in the premier league or is US National team good enough? Just want to know what your rules are before you move them again.

We're not speaking of women's level
Not sure what kinda desperation lead to grabbing at that straw

Also, she didn't start playing soccer at 14. She started playing club soccer at 14.

She started playing soccer young and her father coached her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since this guy is obviously a joker who will narrow the goalposts over and over and never admit his is wrong. Let's throw this one out there.

Matt Turner - 16 - Arsenal

Does that count or are you moving the goalposts again such that goalies don't count, or are you considering Arsenal not a top men's European team?

I'll answer for PP

Of course Goalkeepers don't count for this conversation.
When real soccer people are talking about soccer, Goalies are mentioned separately and specifically

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since this guy is obviously a joker who will narrow the goalposts over and over and never admit his is wrong. Let's throw this one out there.

Matt Turner - 16 - Arsenal

Does that count or are you moving the goalposts again such that goalies don't count, or are you considering Arsenal not a top men's European team?

LOL, you're citing Matt Turner who made 7 appearances for Arsenal?

Turner has accomplished basically nothing compared to Hakeem/Duncan/Rodman. His career isn't even near the Siakam/Embiid level. And I'm an Arsenal fan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since this guy is obviously a joker who will narrow the goalposts over and over and never admit his is wrong. Let's throw this one out there.

Matt Turner - 16 - Arsenal

Does that count or are you moving the goalposts again such that goalies don't count, or are you considering Arsenal not a top men's European team?

16 is a Lie by the way

"Matt Turner, the USMNT and Nottingham Forest goalkeeper, didn't start playing soccer until he was 14 years old. Initially, he focused on baseball and basketball, but the 2010 World Cup sparked his interest in soccer. He began playing more seriously at 16, discovered a talent for goalkeeping, and eventually played for Fairfield University before being signed by the New England Revolution in 2016"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It actually 100% Proves The Point that you can't start soccer as late as HS ages and make it to the top levels
Because there are no examples

I believe PP's point was that there are almost no examples of Americans who made it to the top levels of soccer even after having started early. When you're dealing with such small sample sizes, drawing any kinds of conclusions regarding causality is flawed.

Is this a joke?
Americans are playing and having been playing college soccer and in professional ranks for decades.

No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age.

There are several examples of basketball and football players who started at HS ages

Alex Morgan - Age 14 - Now we all watch the fun.

"She was a multi-sport athlete growing up and began playing soccer at an early age with the American Youth Soccer Organization (AYSO) and her father was among her first coaches"

Started club soccer at 14

That all said, which European top tier men's team did she play for?

Read your quote in bold above again there sport. Moving goalposts only shows you are wrong. Having said that do you not consider someone who is notably one of the best US soccer players ever successful? Do they have to play in the premier league or is US National team good enough? Just want to know what your rules are before you move them again.

We're not speaking of women's level
Not sure what kinda desperation lead to grabbing at that straw

Also, she didn't start playing soccer at 14. She started playing club soccer at 14.

She started playing soccer young and her father coached her.

Obviously you can't read either - so I will give you your quote "No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age." Did you say male player? Did you say top European club? No. You said player at top college (UC Berkley) or professional level (Orlando Pride / Lyon). I guess you are "desperate" to run away from your own words. But we all knew you didn't consider a top US women's national team and Olympic medalist as a serious answer to your question because ..., so I jumped in and threw you Matt Turner. Have at it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It actually 100% Proves The Point that you can't start soccer as late as HS ages and make it to the top levels
Because there are no examples

I believe PP's point was that there are almost no examples of Americans who made it to the top levels of soccer even after having started early. When you're dealing with such small sample sizes, drawing any kinds of conclusions regarding causality is flawed.

Is this a joke?
Americans are playing and having been playing college soccer and in professional ranks for decades.

No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age.

There are several examples of basketball and football players who started at HS ages

Alex Morgan - Age 14 - Now we all watch the fun.

"She was a multi-sport athlete growing up and began playing soccer at an early age with the American Youth Soccer Organization (AYSO) and her father was among her first coaches"

Started club soccer at 14

That all said, which European top tier men's team did she play for?

Read your quote in bold above again there sport. Moving goalposts only shows you are wrong. Having said that do you not consider someone who is notably one of the best US soccer players ever successful? Do they have to play in the premier league or is US National team good enough? Just want to know what your rules are before you move them again.

We're not speaking of women's level
Not sure what kinda desperation lead to grabbing at that straw

Also, she didn't start playing soccer at 14. She started playing club soccer at 14.

She started playing soccer young and her father coached her.

Obviously you can't read either - so I will give you your quote "No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age." Did you say male player? Did you say top European club? No. You said player at top college (UC Berkley) or professional level (Orlando Pride / Lyon). I guess you are "desperate" to run away from your own words. But we all knew you didn't consider a top US women's national team and Olympic medalist as a serious answer to your question because ..., so I jumped in and threw you Matt Turner. Have at it.

The whole conversation is around the US Boys U15 performance and development

What women's soccer has to do with the conversation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It actually 100% Proves The Point that you can't start soccer as late as HS ages and make it to the top levels
Because there are no examples

I believe PP's point was that there are almost no examples of Americans who made it to the top levels of soccer even after having started early. When you're dealing with such small sample sizes, drawing any kinds of conclusions regarding causality is flawed.

Is this a joke?
Americans are playing and having been playing college soccer and in professional ranks for decades.

No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age.

There are several examples of basketball and football players who started at HS ages

Alex Morgan - Age 14 - Now we all watch the fun.

"She was a multi-sport athlete growing up and began playing soccer at an early age with the American Youth Soccer Organization (AYSO) and her father was among her first coaches"

Started club soccer at 14

That all said, which European top tier men's team did she play for?

Read your quote in bold above again there sport. Moving goalposts only shows you are wrong. Having said that do you not consider someone who is notably one of the best US soccer players ever successful? Do they have to play in the premier league or is US National team good enough? Just want to know what your rules are before you move them again.

We're not speaking of women's level
Not sure what kinda desperation lead to grabbing at that straw

Also, she didn't start playing soccer at 14. She started playing club soccer at 14.

She started playing soccer young and her father coached her.

Obviously you can't read either - so I will give you your quote "No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age." Did you say male player? Did you say top European club? No. You said player at top college (UC Berkley) or professional level (Orlando Pride / Lyon). I guess you are "desperate" to run away from your own words. But we all knew you didn't consider a top US women's national team and Olympic medalist as a serious answer to your question because ..., so I jumped in and threw you Matt Turner. Have at it.

Semantics.

Matt Turner is not a serious answer. I love how a field player uses Matt Turner as inspiration that they can do the same thing.

[Anonymous]

Goalposts - keep moving them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Goalposts - keep moving them

Accept defeat with grace

Or stick with Alex Morgan proves that like NBA and NFL and College Men's Basketball and Football, boys can make it to top tier European soccer clubs if they start playing soccer in High School 😂

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obviously you can't read either - so I will give you your quote "No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age."

I'm a different PP who used the phrase "highest levels." College is nowhere near the highest levels. Professional has tons of levels, and it's fairly well established that the highest levels of club soccer are usually being played in the UEFA Champions League.

[Anonymous]

I asked an AI engine ... It names these players:

Jay DeMerit

Jimmy Conrad

Jordan Morris

Jeff Durgan

Shawn Medved

[Anonymous]

That's what you get for AI, Jordan Morris started when he was 10.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Morris