Is $TSLA a buy here?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, down another 15% today. Now down 55% from the all-time high.

Even if you're a hater, at a certain price, this has to be a buy. This is a Mag 7 company.

Remember in 2022 when Meta dropped 76% to $90/share? It hit $740/share less than a month ago. Yes, they're different companies and blah, blah, blah, but come on.

That drop in Meta was caused by what’s her name leaving the company and selling all her shares.

This is very, very different. The brand is permanently tainted and was never worth even the current price, it’s a meme stock.

OP here. Nice attempt at rewriting history. Meta’s dramatic fall was caused by its failed foray into the metaverse (remember the entire name of the company was changed for this?). This was supposedly a last-gasp pivot since Facebook was irrelevant and only used by old people.

Sandberg’s departure only mattered to the extent it was viewed as her jumping out of a sinking ship - Fortune 100 companies don’t drop by 76% just because there’s a change in the COO position, lol.

But the thing is that companies of that size have huge advantages, and Meta was able to bounce back. Companies that size basically only fail when their products/business model are rendered obsolete by technological changes. That is not the problem with Tesla—and likely never will be, given that technology and innovation are Elon’s core skills.

No, the problem with Tesla is that a bunch of libs are butthurt that they have to produce value for the first time in their lives and can no longer collect six-figure paychecks for do-nothing WFH jobs. Sorry, but I don’t see that as a Tesla killer.

This thread has actually convinced me that I am going to take a fairly big position in $TSLA – I’m just deciding on position sizing and timing.

If this thread has convinced you to take a big position in Tesla, you're either unsophisticated and/or just a liar. Musk has destroyed his consumer base, and the Tesla brand is crippled around the globe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, down another 15% today. Now down 55% from the all-time high.

Even if you're a hater, at a certain price, this has to be a buy. This is a Mag 7 company.

Remember in 2022 when Meta dropped 76% to $90/share? It hit $740/share less than a month ago. Yes, they're different companies and blah, blah, blah, but come on.

That drop in Meta was caused by what’s her name leaving the company and selling all her shares.

This is very, very different. The brand is permanently tainted and was never worth even the current price, it’s a meme stock.

OP here. Nice attempt at rewriting history. Meta’s dramatic fall was caused by its failed foray into the metaverse (remember the entire name of the company was changed for this?). This was supposedly a last-gasp pivot since Facebook was irrelevant and only used by old people.

Sandberg’s departure only mattered to the extent it was viewed as her jumping out of a sinking ship - Fortune 100 companies don’t drop by 76% just because there’s a change in the COO position, lol.

But the thing is that companies of that size have huge advantages, and Meta was able to bounce back. Companies that size basically only fail when their products/business model are rendered obsolete by technological changes. That is not the problem with Tesla—and likely never will be, given that technology and innovation are Elon’s core skills.

No, the problem with Tesla is that a bunch of libs are butthurt that they have to produce value for the first time in their lives and can no longer collect six-figure paychecks for do-nothing WFH jobs. Sorry, but I don’t see that as a Tesla killer.

This thread has actually convinced me that I am going to take a fairly big position in $TSLA – I’m just deciding on position sizing and timing.

If this thread has convinced you to take a big position in Tesla, you're either unsophisticated and/or just a liar. Musk has destroyed his consumer base, and the Tesla brand is crippled around the globe.

Which means OP should buy, buy, buy.
Elon needs the money

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, down another 15% today. Now down 55% from the all-time high.

Even if you're a hater, at a certain price, this has to be a buy. This is a Mag 7 company.

Remember in 2022 when Meta dropped 76% to $90/share? It hit $740/share less than a month ago. Yes, they're different companies and blah, blah, blah, but come on.

That drop in Meta was caused by what’s her name leaving the company and selling all her shares.

This is very, very different. The brand is permanently tainted and was never worth even the current price, it’s a meme stock.

OP here. Nice attempt at rewriting history. Meta’s dramatic fall was caused by its failed foray into the metaverse (remember the entire name of the company was changed for this?). This was supposedly a last-gasp pivot since Facebook was irrelevant and only used by old people.

Sandberg’s departure only mattered to the extent it was viewed as her jumping out of a sinking ship - Fortune 100 companies don’t drop by 76% just because there’s a change in the COO position, lol.

But the thing is that companies of that size have huge advantages, and Meta was able to bounce back. Companies that size basically only fail when their products/business model are rendered obsolete by technological changes. That is not the problem with Tesla—and likely never will be, given that technology and innovation are Elon’s core skills.

No, the problem with Tesla is that a bunch of libs are butthurt that they have to produce value for the first time in their lives and can no longer collect six-figure paychecks for do-nothing WFH jobs. Sorry, but I don’t see that as a Tesla killer.

This thread has actually convinced me that I am going to take a fairly big position in $TSLA – I’m just deciding on position sizing and timing.

If this thread has convinced you to take a big position in Tesla, you're either unsophisticated and/or just a liar. Musk has destroyed his consumer base, and the Tesla brand is crippled around the globe.

Which means OP should buy, buy, buy.
Elon needs the money

I mean, seems like he really does

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The "Tesla are junk" statements are great. At least 80% were owned by Liberals until this year. Elon was a God to that side for years.

It was the first mass market EV and that’s pretty impressive but it’s always had quality issues and the rest of the market has caught up. Zero reason to buy one today.

It’s almost comical how the Tesla board has let this happen. They literally paid him more money than anyone in history on the theory only he could run the company and it turns out Musk running the company is at least much a liability as a benefit.

I owned a 2019 Tesla, 2023 BMW i4, 2024 Rivian, 2024 Lucid, and a new Polestar. The Teslas are still way ahead of all the other evs. I don't see many quality issues. I hate to tell you, but the Tesla is still way ahead. I think the issue is that they were built too good because i have no reason to buy a new one at this time with over-the-air software upgrades

Sure, Jan

[Anonymous]

We love our Rivian (purchased last spring). We didn’t even consider Tesla.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have been holding it since 2018 when it was $15 a share, and have added more along the way and plan on doing the same for the next 10 years.
It is a disruptive company with great products and execution and that's all I care about. It is as simple as that.

It was those things. It stopped being so a few years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tesla after hours is $218.44. IG’s going down, down, and more down. No, OP this is not a good time to buy Tesla. Maybe when it reaches $80.00 a share.

#agedlike moscovium

$232 this morning

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tesla after hours is $218.44. IG’s going down, down, and more down. No, OP this is not a good time to buy Tesla. Maybe when it reaches $80.00 a share.

#agedlike moscovium

$232 this morning

Yes, shares go up and down. But it was 280 when this thread started.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The "Tesla are junk" statements are great. At least 80% were owned by Liberals until this year. Elon was a God to that side for years.

It was the first mass market EV and that’s pretty impressive but it’s always had quality issues and the rest of the market has caught up. Zero reason to buy one today.

It’s almost comical how the Tesla board has let this happen. They literally paid him more money than anyone in history on the theory only he could run the company and it turns out Musk running the company is at least much a liability as a benefit.

I owned a 2019 Tesla, 2023 BMW i4, 2024 Rivian, 2024 Lucid, and a new Polestar. The Teslas are still way ahead of all the other evs. I don't see many quality issues. I hate to tell you, but the Tesla is still way ahead. I think the issue is that they were built too good because i have no reason to buy a new one at this time with over-the-air software upgrades

As someone who has also driven multiple EVs, I have to completely disagree with you. Although Tesla's are not bad, per say, the other EVs I have driven (with one exception) have been better. They either handled better, felt better made (no weird panel gaps and etc), had a much nicer interior (Tesla interior's are meh, far too spartan and cheap feeling for a 40k+ car, granted I have not been in the new Model 3 yet). The BMW I4 is much nicer, so were the Ioniq 5, the EV6, the Mach-E, and the Rivian. Literally the only one that I have been in that was worse (mainly due to its software) was the VW ID.4. I am quite enjoying my BMW I4, and when we are at a point of replacing our second car, will get one of the bigger EVs (either Ioniq 5, Ioniq9, EV6 or EV9). Why get a Tesla and support Musk when there are far better substitutes out there in the market

Also lol you say "too good, no reason to buy another one" when you also say you had those other cars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please keep your TDS and your irrational hatred of Musk out of this. But the stock is down 48% from its all-time high!

Even if you acknowledge that Musk has alienated many consumers, he may just as well bring in many new customers (Republicans have bought EVs at much lower rates than Democrats in the past).

More importantly, over time, the best product tends to win. And with the possible exception of some of the Chinese EVs (which will never be sold in the US), Teslas are the best EVs in the world. While there have been some recent reports of lower sales figures, nothing about the product or business has fundamentally changed in the last few months to warrant a 48% decline in share price.

And lastly, Tesla is not even strictly an automobile company anymore. They have lots of innovation in AI and other areas. I dunno, as someone who usually just buys index funds, I’m pretty tempted to load up on $TSLA stock. Thoughts?

Is this some sort of TESLA lackey posting on DCUM?

[Anonymous]

Only if you're buying puts.

[Anonymous]

I rather buy VZ, DIS, AXP, JPM type stocks in a blood bath sell off.

Fat Dividends and strong balance sheets.

To be honest Don't believe the hype. A plain old Chevy Equinox is a better electric car than a Tesla at a better price. Only trouble it is a Chevy which does not have the name brand recognition of Tesla. But if Tesla loses that buyer willing to pay extra for name or we have a big recession the Chevy will look good.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please keep your TDS and your irrational hatred of Musk out of this. But the stock is down 48% from its all-time high!

Even if you acknowledge that Musk has alienated many consumers, he may just as well bring in many new customers (Republicans have bought EVs at much lower rates than Democrats in the past).

More importantly, over time, the best product tends to win. And with the possible exception of some of the Chinese EVs (which will never be sold in the US), Teslas are the best EVs in the world. While there have been some recent reports of lower sales figures, nothing about the product or business has fundamentally changed in the last few months to warrant a 48% decline in share price.

And lastly, Tesla is not even strictly an automobile company anymore. They have lots of innovation in AI and other areas. I dunno, as someone who usually just buys index funds, I’m pretty tempted to load up on $TSLA stock. Thoughts?

Is this some sort of TESLA lackey posting on DCUM?

A desperate stock holder

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The "Tesla are junk" statements are great. At least 80% were owned by Liberals until this year. Elon was a God to that side for years.

It was the first mass market EV and that’s pretty impressive but it’s always had quality issues and the rest of the market has caught up. Zero reason to buy one today.

It’s almost comical how the Tesla board has let this happen. They literally paid him more money than anyone in history on the theory only he could run the company and it turns out Musk running the company is at least much a liability as a benefit.

I owned a 2019 Tesla, 2023 BMW i4, 2024 Rivian, 2024 Lucid, and a new Polestar. The Teslas are still way ahead of all the other evs. I don't see many quality issues. I hate to tell you, but the Tesla is still way ahead. I think the issue is that they were built too good because i have no reason to buy a new one at this time with over-the-air software upgrades

As someone who has also driven multiple EVs, I have to completely disagree with you. Although Tesla's are not bad, per say, the other EVs I have driven (with one exception) have been better. They either handled better, felt better made (no weird panel gaps and etc), had a much nicer interior (Tesla interior's are meh, far too spartan and cheap feeling for a 40k+ car, granted I have not been in the new Model 3 yet). The BMW I4 is much nicer, so were the Ioniq 5, the EV6, the Mach-E, and the Rivian. Literally the only one that I have been in that was worse (mainly due to its software) was the VW ID.4. I am quite enjoying my BMW I4, and when we are at a point of replacing our second car, will get one of the bigger EVs (either Ioniq 5, Ioniq9, EV6 or EV9). Why get a Tesla and support Musk when there are far better substitutes out there in the market

Also lol you say "too good, no reason to buy another one" when you also say you had those other cars.

I agree with you, but it is per se, not per say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The "Tesla are junk" statements are great. At least 80% were owned by Liberals until this year. Elon was a God to that side for years.

It was the first mass market EV and that’s pretty impressive but it’s always had quality issues and the rest of the market has caught up. Zero reason to buy one today.

It’s almost comical how the Tesla board has let this happen. They literally paid him more money than anyone in history on the theory only he could run the company and it turns out Musk running the company is at least much a liability as a benefit.

I owned a 2019 Tesla, 2023 BMW i4, 2024 Rivian, 2024 Lucid, and a new Polestar. The Teslas are still way ahead of all the other evs. I don't see many quality issues. I hate to tell you, but the Tesla is still way ahead. I think the issue is that they were built too good because i have no reason to buy a new one at this time with over-the-air software upgrades

As someone who has also driven multiple EVs, I have to completely disagree with you. Although Tesla's are not bad, per say, the other EVs I have driven (with one exception) have been better. They either handled better, felt better made (no weird panel gaps and etc), had a much nicer interior (Tesla interior's are meh, far too spartan and cheap feeling for a 40k+ car, granted I have not been in the new Model 3 yet). The BMW I4 is much nicer, so were the Ioniq 5, the EV6, the Mach-E, and the Rivian. Literally the only one that I have been in that was worse (mainly due to its software) was the VW ID.4. I am quite enjoying my BMW I4, and when we are at a point of replacing our second car, will get one of the bigger EVs (either Ioniq 5, Ioniq9, EV6 or EV9). Why get a Tesla and support Musk when there are far better substitutes out there in the market

Also lol you say "too good, no reason to buy another one" when you also say you had those other cars.

Yup, have a friend who works in the car industry on the engineering side. The fundamental issue is that the bigger car companies have generations of expertise and knowledge and worker capital. That's why they make better cars. That issue with a robot where it forms a car door slightly off, and the gap is a little too big? Tesla let's that go in the name of production. Too costly to try and fix it. Chevy engineers dealt with that 3 car generations ago, so it either doesn't happen or they know how to fix it fast.