Nobody Wants This on Netflix

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Anonymous wrote:I love it, binged over the weekend. My mid 40s daughter also loved it. We have no preconceived notions about Jewish people so it's all new to us, plus with the generally low quality of sit coms and rom coms we'll tolerate some stereotyping and stretches of reality.

Overall, A+

Then you must be the intended audience. This felt like a Jewish primer in different places. I have Jewish in-laws (not my direct in-laws, my DH was the product of an interfaith marriage) and I have learned a lot of small things from them. However, I knew what a shiksa, Shabbat, etc. were before ever being married. Defining everything felt pedantic.

Super cute though!

This was weird to me too. How do you live in a large coastal city and not know a lot of Jewish people and be familiar with some basic Yiddish and the central Jewish traditions. I am not Jewish and didn't marry in but I've been to plenty of Shabbat dinners and attended Jewish weddings and know what shiksa and goyim and other common yiddish words mean. Just like I also know what baby hairs are and some basic things about black hair care even though I've personally never needed that info for myself. I thought that this was just common knowledge if you live in a reasonably diverse community.

The Jewish population is 0.2% of the world and 1,8% in the US.
Its unreasonable to think that the remaining 98.2% of the US would be familiar with Yiddish words/phrases and traditions- exception would be dense enclaves in coastal cities but many of those enclaves are insular. Black people are 12.4% of the US population and there is more intermixing so yeahhhhh these are ridiculous comparisons.

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Anonymous wrote:I love it, binged over the weekend. My mid 40s daughter also loved it. We have no preconceived notions about Jewish people so it's all new to us, plus with the generally low quality of sit coms and rom coms we'll tolerate some stereotyping and stretches of reality.

Overall, A+

Then you must be the intended audience. This felt like a Jewish primer in different places. I have Jewish in-laws (not my direct in-laws, my DH was the product of an interfaith marriage) and I have learned a lot of small things from them. However, I knew what a shiksa, Shabbat, etc. were before ever being married. Defining everything felt pedantic.

Super cute though!

This was weird to me too. How do you live in a large coastal city and not know a lot of Jewish people and be familiar with some basic Yiddish and the central Jewish traditions. I am not Jewish and didn't marry in but I've been to plenty of Shabbat dinners and attended Jewish weddings and know what shiksa and goyim and other common yiddish words mean. Just like I also know what baby hairs are and some basic things about black hair care even though I've personally never needed that info for myself. I thought that this was just common knowledge if you live in a reasonably diverse community.

The Jewish population is 0.2% of the world and 1,8% in the US.
Its unreasonable to think that the remaining 98.2% of the US would be familiar with Yiddish words/phrases and traditions- exception would be dense enclaves in coastal cities but many of those enclaves are insular. Black people are 12.4% of the US population and there is more intermixing so yeahhhhh these are ridiculous comparisons.

She's from LA though. A girl raised in Sherman Oaks would have had some Jewish kids around. I think not hearing of shabbat or the word shalom is very very weird. Yiddish words not so much.

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Anonymous wrote:I read all the comments and no one has mentioned how Noah's parents are supposedly former Soviet Jews, yet seem more like L.A. Persians or Armenians. We don't call "banya" the shvitz (that's a Yiddish term used by Eastern Europeans), moms aren't as overbearing as Middle Eastern/Far Eastern Jewish (or otherwise) moms, and the accents are way wrong. Former Soviets don't tend to go into real estate, don't tend to be religious, etc. If you're going to stereotype, do it right, the parents should have been scientists or computer programmers.

Yes this bugged me too because there was no reason for it. Obviously their financial situation and the personality of the mom was important to the plot so why not have a backstory that made this make sense? It's incongruous the way it's written.

Also incongruous is the family actually doesn't come off as particularly religious so I had a hard time understanding why Noah became a rabbi. You don't get the sense his parents pressured him into it and his brother obviously doesn't care. So you'd think it had to do with Noah's own faith and interest. But then he's kind of blithely dating a you knowing it's problematic and seems generally annoyed by the realities if his job. When the board member sees him in the sex shop he only cares about his own career and is happy when it turns out the guy is cheating on his wife. It's just weird.

My take is Noah is a bad person and it would be great if he didn't stay a rabbi. He comes across as this sweet and cute caring guy, but it is all superficial: He misleads Rebecca, a woman of substance who actually IS a good person and wants to be a rabbi's wife (which is a very specific job in itself, not many are up for it!), dumps her after being such a coward she had to push the issue to finally get an answer. Then he falls for a total airhead actual BAD person. He says lashon hara is wrong but actually engages in gossip right away the minute he meets her friends. There is the gross incident you mention about the board member cheating and covert blackmail. He plays basketball on Shabbat, lights candles after sundown, is totally fine flaunting a brand new relationship at a religious camp, it takes him 10 minutes to throw away his career because the idiot he somehow loves says she probably can't convert...None of it aligned with him being a good person or a good rabbi at ALL.

Oh brother. Have you been dumped after a long relationship. I would have dumped someone who tried to force me into a proposal too. He didn’t owe her that just because she is a good person and up for a job. Also, if the two characters, Rebecca is the one who lies to get Noah back and continues to disrespect his boundaries. Joann is prettt consistently honest about everything.

I know several rabbis and their wives. It is not a normal relationship. It's a marriage but it's also very much a business partnership and a personal sacrifice for the woman if they are not absolutely into the job itself. You are on 100% of the time, constantly entertaining, helping. The rabbi's wife has a crucial role. He did owe her not wasting years in her 30s leading her on. Had she not done the ring thing, he would have kept misleading her so it's a good thing she did. Joanne is a shitty person and yes, she is honest about being shitty. Rebecca is more mature and realizes the scope of being Rabbi Noah's wife. Her mistake is thinking Noah is a good person and a good rabbi who wants to stay a rabbi, so everything devolves from that.

Rebecca is a strive and would do anything to be the "rabbi's wife." Are you Jewish? You sound very much like some of the characters in the show who can see no wrong in Rebecca.

I am Jewish. You need to be "that type" to be a rabbi's wife, or you'll be miserable. I'd be miserable. Rebecca is the perfect person for the job.

Probably. But I think the whole point of the show is that Noah wants love and passion in his life and not just someone to do the job. Hence the almost opening scene with her telling him "there is nothing more than this, this is it" and him breaking up with her because of it.

Right, and I don't disagree! But what the things he wants aren't compatible, at least neither with Rebecca nor Joanne. So he has to pick Rabbi + another woman he might meet who is both into Rabbi wife aspect and he loves, or Not Rabbi + Joanne. I am curious to see what happens to the characters in Season 2.

DP but this is true. He's being a big man baby and he's way too old for that. He doesn't get it all. Nobody gets it all. Everyone compromises.

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All these complaints about the details are pretty funny considering what a huge hit this show is. I loved it.

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Anonymous wrote:I really enjoyed watching it until the very end.

What I really disliked is how ignorant she was of very basic things about Jewish people. Who tf doesn't know prosciutto is pork?

Stfu

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Anonymous wrote:I can not get over her strabismus. It affects her acting.

You are disgustingly

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Anonymous wrote:All these complaints about the details are pretty funny considering what a huge hit this show is. I loved it.

I love complaining about it lol. I watched the whole thing and will watch the second season but there is a LOT wrong with the details. A show can be fun to watch but also have a lot wrong with it. It's ok to analyze it, even fun!

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Anonymous wrote:I really enjoyed watching it until the very end.

What I really disliked is how ignorant she was of very basic things about Jewish people. Who tf doesn't know prosciutto is pork?

Stfu

Ah, so you also thought prosciutto was beef? Lolol

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Anonymous wrote:I read all the comments and no one has mentioned how Noah's parents are supposedly former Soviet Jews, yet seem more like L.A. Persians or Armenians. We don't call "banya" the shvitz (that's a Yiddish term used by Eastern Europeans), moms aren't as overbearing as Middle Eastern/Far Eastern Jewish (or otherwise) moms, and the accents are way wrong. Former Soviets don't tend to go into real estate, don't tend to be religious, etc. If you're going to stereotype, do it right, the parents should have been scientists or computer programmers.

Yes this bugged me too because there was no reason for it. Obviously their financial situation and the personality of the mom was important to the plot so why not have a backstory that made this make sense? It's incongruous the way it's written.

Also incongruous is the family actually doesn't come off as particularly religious so I had a hard time understanding why Noah became a rabbi. You don't get the sense his parents pressured him into it and his brother obviously doesn't care. So you'd think it had to do with Noah's own faith and interest. But then he's kind of blithely dating a you knowing it's problematic and seems generally annoyed by the realities if his job. When the board member sees him in the sex shop he only cares about his own career and is happy when it turns out the guy is cheating on his wife. It's just weird.

My take is Noah is a bad person and it would be great if he didn't stay a rabbi. He comes across as this sweet and cute caring guy, but it is all superficial: He misleads Rebecca, a woman of substance who actually IS a good person and wants to be a rabbi's wife (which is a very specific job in itself, not many are up for it!), dumps her after being such a coward she had to push the issue to finally get an answer. Then he falls for a total airhead actual BAD person. He says lashon hara is wrong but actually engages in gossip right away the minute he meets her friends. There is the gross incident you mention about the board member cheating and covert blackmail. He plays basketball on Shabbat, lights candles after sundown, is totally fine flaunting a brand new relationship at a religious camp, it takes him 10 minutes to throw away his career because the idiot he somehow loves says she probably can't convert...None of it aligned with him being a good person or a good rabbi at ALL.

Oh brother. Have you been dumped after a long relationship. I would have dumped someone who tried to force me into a proposal too. He didn’t owe her that just because she is a good person and up for a job. Also, if the two characters, Rebecca is the one who lies to get Noah back and continues to disrespect his boundaries. Joann is prettt consistently honest about everything.

I know several rabbis and their wives. It is not a normal relationship. It's a marriage but it's also very much a business partnership and a personal sacrifice for the woman if they are not absolutely into the job itself. You are on 100% of the time, constantly entertaining, helping. The rabbi's wife has a crucial role. He did owe her not wasting years in her 30s leading her on. Had she not done the ring thing, he would have kept misleading her so it's a good thing she did. Joanne is a shitty person and yes, she is honest about being shitty. Rebecca is more mature and realizes the scope of being Rabbi Noah's wife. Her mistake is thinking Noah is a good person and a good rabbi who wants to stay a rabbi, so everything devolves from that.

Rebecca is a strive and would do anything to be the "rabbi's wife." Are you Jewish? You sound very much like some of the characters in the show who can see no wrong in Rebecca.

I am Jewish. You need to be "that type" to be a rabbi's wife, or you'll be miserable. I'd be miserable. Rebecca is the perfect person for the job.

You don’t know shit about Rebecca

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The show is too crude, the language, especially the first few episodes. I like it otherwise but don't include it as a show I can recommend.

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What happened to Rebecca’s broken wrist that needed surgery? I really enjoyed this show but I was still stuck on how she’s driving a few days later after being in the hospital for surgery for a broken wrist (BTDT). I felt bad for her character.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to Rebecca’s broken wrist that needed surgery? I really enjoyed this show but I was still stuck on how she’s driving a few days later after being in the hospital for surgery for a broken wrist (BTDT). I felt bad for her character.

Are you really that dense that you don’t see how her trumped-up health crisis is a big nothingburger?

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Anonymous wrote:I read all the comments and no one has mentioned how Noah's parents are supposedly former Soviet Jews, yet seem more like L.A. Persians or Armenians. We don't call "banya" the shvitz (that's a Yiddish term used by Eastern Europeans), moms aren't as overbearing as Middle Eastern/Far Eastern Jewish (or otherwise) moms, and the accents are way wrong. Former Soviets don't tend to go into real estate, don't tend to be religious, etc. If you're going to stereotype, do it right, the parents should have been scientists or computer programmers.

Yes this bugged me too because there was no reason for it. Obviously their financial situation and the personality of the mom was important to the plot so why not have a backstory that made this make sense? It's incongruous the way it's written.

Also incongruous is the family actually doesn't come off as particularly religious so I had a hard time understanding why Noah became a rabbi. You don't get the sense his parents pressured him into it and his brother obviously doesn't care. So you'd think it had to do with Noah's own faith and interest. But then he's kind of blithely dating a you knowing it's problematic and seems generally annoyed by the realities if his job. When the board member sees him in the sex shop he only cares about his own career and is happy when it turns out the guy is cheating on his wife. It's just weird.

My take is Noah is a bad person and it would be great if he didn't stay a rabbi. He comes across as this sweet and cute caring guy, but it is all superficial: He misleads Rebecca, a woman of substance who actually IS a good person and wants to be a rabbi's wife (which is a very specific job in itself, not many are up for it!), dumps her after being such a coward she had to push the issue to finally get an answer. Then he falls for a total airhead actual BAD person. He says lashon hara is wrong but actually engages in gossip right away the minute he meets her friends. There is the gross incident you mention about the board member cheating and covert blackmail. He plays basketball on Shabbat, lights candles after sundown, is totally fine flaunting a brand new relationship at a religious camp, it takes him 10 minutes to throw away his career because the idiot he somehow loves says she probably can't convert...None of it aligned with him being a good person or a good rabbi at ALL.

Oh brother. Have you been dumped after a long relationship. I would have dumped someone who tried to force me into a proposal too. He didn’t owe her that just because she is a good person and up for a job. Also, if the two characters, Rebecca is the one who lies to get Noah back and continues to disrespect his boundaries. Joann is prettt consistently honest about everything.

I know several rabbis and their wives. It is not a normal relationship. It's a marriage but it's also very much a business partnership and a personal sacrifice for the woman if they are not absolutely into the job itself. You are on 100% of the time, constantly entertaining, helping. The rabbi's wife has a crucial role. He did owe her not wasting years in her 30s leading her on. Had she not done the ring thing, he would have kept misleading her so it's a good thing she did. Joanne is a shitty person and yes, she is honest about being shitty. Rebecca is more mature and realizes the scope of being Rabbi Noah's wife. Her mistake is thinking Noah is a good person and a good rabbi who wants to stay a rabbi, so everything devolves from that.

Rebecca is a strive and would do anything to be the "rabbi's wife." Are you Jewish? You sound very much like some of the characters in the show who can see no wrong in Rebecca.

I am Jewish. You need to be "that type" to be a rabbi's wife, or you'll be miserable. I'd be miserable. Rebecca is the perfect person for the job.

You don’t know shit about Rebecca

Agreed

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to Rebecca’s broken wrist that needed surgery? I really enjoyed this show but I was still stuck on how she’s driving a few days later after being in the hospital for surgery for a broken wrist (BTDT). I felt bad for her character.

Are you really that dense that you don’t see how her trumped-up health crisis is a big nothingburger?

I guess but she was admitted to the hospital. It’s really not a big deal; don’t know why you felt it necessary to insult someone. Hope your day gets better (not really).

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Anonymous wrote:I'm watching it. Adam Brody is adorable and saves the show. Kristen Bell is grating, so is her mean sister. I can't believe how many times they have used the word shiksa so far. It's a slur, fine if you want to use it once, but getting old, repetitive and rude. The show started to go majorly south when he brought her to the retreat, then barged in on her work dinner to light shabbat candles after sundown?!!

It just occurred to me that the sister plays the sister in law in the Marvelous Mrs Maisel…the one who converted and is a more devout Jew than her in laws. Pretty sure they used the word “shiksa” quite a bit on that show.

That show took place in the 1960s. There are lots of words people used then that aren’t used now (or at least definitely not as freely and by young people!).