Nobody Wants This on Netflix

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Anonymous wrote:I like this show but I HATE with a passion Morgan, the sister. I wish she was just a sideline tangential character and I really wish they didn't have her flirting all the time with Sasha. Everyone talks about how those two are the best characters on the show and I strongly disagree.

No lie Kristen Bell and Adam Brody have *so* much chemistry. But it's not enough.

I didn’t really take it so much as flirting, at least on Sasha’s part. He just seemed happy to have a friend! And I thought she was sort of learning “oh, wow, a guy could be friends with me and not want to f me.” That was totally new for her.

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Why would a sociable, nice guy like him not have friends? Stupid.

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I thought it was odd how the sisters' podcast focused solely on Joanne's love life and all the things she was doing wrong - but no mention of Morgan not dating anyone and why that might be.

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Anonymous wrote:I like this show but I HATE with a passion Morgan, the sister. I wish she was just a sideline tangential character and I really wish they didn't have her flirting all the time with Sasha. Everyone talks about how those two are the best characters on the show and I strongly disagree.

No lie Kristen Bell and Adam Brody have *so* much chemistry. But it's not enough.

I didn’t really take it so much as flirting, at least on Sasha’s part. He just seemed happy to have a friend! And I thought she was sort of learning “oh, wow, a guy could be friends with me and not want to f me.” That was totally new for her.

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Why would a sociable, nice guy like him not have friends? Stupid.

Sasha was happy and surprised that he had a female friend! He has plenty of guy friends but only seemed to socialize with females that were part of a couple. He doesn’t have females that call him so it was a new experience. I liked this part of the story line.

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Anonymous wrote:I just finished the season. I binged it in 2 days. I’m a non-Jew married to a Jew and we both thought it was hilarious. Yes, the characters were stereotypes (I personally know someone that fits each of them) but each one surprises you in some way through out the show, which I think is the point. Our stereotypes are not always accurate. I enjoyed the friendship between Morgan and Sasha. I didn’t like Esther in the beginning and really liked her in the end.

So many people have no clue about Jewish traditions, particularly those that haven’t gone to college (which Joanne and her sister did not). The education is needed for a great deal of the audience.

I have recommended the show to a lot of people and enjoyed the laughs. Too many of you take things way too seriously.

Not surprising coming from someone like you.

DP. What on earth does that mean?

+1. Sounds like you are stereotyping the PP! Lol.

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Jewish person here.

I thought the show was cute and like/rooted for Joanne and Noah. I also thought it was completely ridiculous.
First off Joanne didn’t go to college and her only income is as a local podcast host (how can she even afford to live?). Jews tend to value education - she has a high school diploma and seemingly little worldly knowledge (has never heard the word shalom?). Though it seems she DOES know what it means to keep kosher, just doesn’t know that the meats were pork, which makes no sense.
If he were a reform rabbi a lot of this wouldn’t matter. His temple is clearly more religious. And that makes it all the more unbelievable.
All of which would be fine- this is entertainment. But I think it’s awful that the jewish creator of a TV show portrays Jewish people in such stereotypical and not great ways during a time in history when anti-semitism is on the rise.

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Anonymous wrote:Jewish person here.

I thought the show was cute and like/rooted for Joanne and Noah. I also thought it was completely ridiculous.
First off Joanne didn’t go to college and her only income is as a local podcast host (how can she even afford to live?). Jews tend to value education - she has a high school diploma and seemingly little worldly knowledge (has never heard the word shalom?). Though it seems she DOES know what it means to keep kosher, just doesn’t know that the meats were pork, which makes no sense.
If he were a reform rabbi a lot of this wouldn’t matter. His temple is clearly more religious. And that makes it all the more unbelievable.
All of which would be fine- this is entertainment. But I think it’s awful that the jewish creator of a TV show portrays Jewish people in such stereotypical and not great ways during a time in history when anti-semitism is on the rise.

I agree with this assessment. The show has some witty dialogue so I stuck with it, but it was also ridiculous and full of negative stereotypes about Jewish women. Noah's mom eating the ham from the trashcan was another absurdity.

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Anonymous wrote:Jewish person here.

I thought the show was cute and like/rooted for Joanne and Noah. I also thought it was completely ridiculous.
First off Joanne didn’t go to college and her only income is as a local podcast host (how can she even afford to live?). Jews tend to value education - she has a high school diploma and seemingly little worldly knowledge (has never heard the word shalom?). Though it seems she DOES know what it means to keep kosher, just doesn’t know that the meats were pork, which makes no sense.
If he were a reform rabbi a lot of this wouldn’t matter. His temple is clearly more religious. And that makes it all the more unbelievable.
All of which would be fine- this is entertainment. But I think it’s awful that the jewish creator of a TV show portrays Jewish people in such stereotypical and not great ways during a time in history when anti-semitism is on the rise.

I agree with this assessment. The show has some witty dialogue so I stuck with it, but it was also ridiculous and full of negative stereotypes about Jewish women. Noah's mom eating the ham from the trashcan was another absurdity.

Seems to me like some of the scenes were borrowed from Larry David/Seinfeld. Eating from the garbage can. The sex sheet.

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Anonymous wrote:Jewish person here.

I thought the show was cute and like/rooted for Joanne and Noah. I also thought it was completely ridiculous.
First off Joanne didn’t go to college and her only income is as a local podcast host (how can she even afford to live?). Jews tend to value education - she has a high school diploma and seemingly little worldly knowledge (has never heard the word shalom?). Though it seems she DOES know what it means to keep kosher, just doesn’t know that the meats were pork, which makes no sense.
If he were a reform rabbi a lot of this wouldn’t matter. His temple is clearly more religious. And that makes it all the more unbelievable.
All of which would be fine- this is entertainment. But I think it’s awful that the jewish creator of a TV show portrays Jewish people in such stereotypical and not great ways during a time in history when anti-semitism is on the rise.

I agree with this assessment. The show has some witty dialogue so I stuck with it, but it was also ridiculous and full of negative stereotypes about Jewish women. Noah's mom eating the ham from the trashcan was another absurdity.

+1. DP. I stopped watching after that scene.

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Anonymous wrote:I read all the comments and no one has mentioned how Noah's parents are supposedly former Soviet Jews, yet seem more like L.A. Persians or Armenians. We don't call "banya" the shvitz (that's a Yiddish term used by Eastern Europeans), moms aren't as overbearing as Middle Eastern/Far Eastern Jewish (or otherwise) moms, and the accents are way wrong. Former Soviets don't tend to go into real estate, don't tend to be religious, etc. If you're going to stereotype, do it right, the parents should have been scientists or computer programmers.

Yes this bugged me too because there was no reason for it. Obviously their financial situation and the personality of the mom was important to the plot so why not have a backstory that made this make sense? It's incongruous the way it's written.

Also incongruous is the family actually doesn't come off as particularly religious so I had a hard time understanding why Noah became a rabbi. You don't get the sense his parents pressured him into it and his brother obviously doesn't care. So you'd think it had to do with Noah's own faith and interest. But then he's kind of blithely dating a you knowing it's problematic and seems generally annoyed by the realities if his job. When the board member sees him in the sex shop he only cares about his own career and is happy when it turns out the guy is cheating on his wife. It's just weird.

My take is Noah is a bad person and it would be great if he didn't stay a rabbi. He comes across as this sweet and cute caring guy, but it is all superficial: He misleads Rebecca, a woman of substance who actually IS a good person and wants to be a rabbi's wife (which is a very specific job in itself, not many are up for it!), dumps her after being such a coward she had to push the issue to finally get an answer. Then he falls for a total airhead actual BAD person. He says lashon hara is wrong but actually engages in gossip right away the minute he meets her friends. There is the gross incident you mention about the board member cheating and covert blackmail. He plays basketball on Shabbat, lights candles after sundown, is totally fine flaunting a brand new relationship at a religious camp, it takes him 10 minutes to throw away his career because the idiot he somehow loves says she probably can't convert...None of it aligned with him being a good person or a good rabbi at ALL.

Oh brother. Have you been dumped after a long relationship. I would have dumped someone who tried to force me into a proposal too. He didn’t owe her that just because she is a good person and up for a job. Also, if the two characters, Rebecca is the one who lies to get Noah back and continues to disrespect his boundaries. Joann is prettt consistently honest about everything.

I know several rabbis and their wives. It is not a normal relationship. It's a marriage but it's also very much a business partnership and a personal sacrifice for the woman if they are not absolutely into the job itself. You are on 100% of the time, constantly entertaining, helping. The rabbi's wife has a crucial role. He did owe her not wasting years in her 30s leading her on. Had she not done the ring thing, he would have kept misleading her so it's a good thing she did. Joanne is a shitty person and yes, she is honest about being shitty. Rebecca is more mature and realizes the scope of being Rabbi Noah's wife. Her mistake is thinking Noah is a good person and a good rabbi who wants to stay a rabbi, so everything devolves from that.

1) how do you know he would have kept misleading her? He bought the right and by all accounts was planning on giving it to her at some point. As far as I could tell he had an a-ha moment when she forced the issue and said there is essentially nothing special about a relationship, that this was it. He wanted passion and love and not just a transaction. Her lying and manipulation does not make her a good person in my book. Other than being Jewish, of course.

2) Why is Joanne a shitty person? Give me some examples. She has a raunchy podcast, sure. But she is an awesome sister, close with her family, has a ton of really good friends. She is pretty honest and doesn't try to manipulate anyone.

+1. Rebecca didn't just spring the engagement on him. She broke into his locked cabinet to find the ring. She started planning the wedding with his mom before he even knew he was "engaged." Rebecca has no boundaries.

That said, I get that being a rabbi's wife is a full-time job, and anybody in a relationship with a rabbi needs to understand that, which Joanne does not. The same is true of a relationship with any religious leader, and it's why I'm religious but didn't see my future in dating an episcopalian priest.

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Anonymous wrote:I just finished the season. I binged it in 2 days. I’m a non-Jew married to a Jew and we both thought it was hilarious. Yes, the characters were stereotypes (I personally know someone that fits each of them) but each one surprises you in some way through out the show, which I think is the point. Our stereotypes are not always accurate. I enjoyed the friendship between Morgan and Sasha. I didn’t like Esther in the beginning and really liked her in the end.

So many people have no clue about Jewish traditions, particularly those that haven’t gone to college (which Joanne and her sister did not). The education is needed for a great deal of the audience.

I have recommended the show to a lot of people and enjoyed the laughs. Too many of you take things way too seriously.

Not surprising coming from someone like you.

DP. What on earth does that mean?

It's judgy, and it's coming from someone who doesn't like the judgmental characters in the show.

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Anonymous wrote:I like it, but I’m unfortunately distracted by the fact that something has changed with her face that almost makes her look like a different person. It could just be that she’s shaping her eyebrows differently. I know, I know, this is absurd.

To be fair, he also looks different, but still looks like himself.

It's almost like she's....AGED....since Veronica Mars. Imagine that!

This! She's, what, 15 years older than her Veronica Mars days (I still miss that show). With age you can expect the cheeks to hollow out. Her hair is longer, which pulls down anybody's face. Possibly she's had fillers, and I'm no expert, but I think most of what some are complaining about is simply normal aging.

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Anonymous wrote:Jewish person here.

I thought the show was cute and like/rooted for Joanne and Noah. I also thought it was completely ridiculous.
First off Joanne didn’t go to college and her only income is as a local podcast host (how can she even afford to live?). Jews tend to value education - she has a high school diploma and seemingly little worldly knowledge (has never heard the word shalom?). Though it seems she DOES know what it means to keep kosher, just doesn’t know that the meats were pork, which makes no sense.
If he were a reform rabbi a lot of this wouldn’t matter. His temple is clearly more religious. And that makes it all the more unbelievable.
All of which would be fine- this is entertainment. But I think it’s awful that the jewish creator of a TV show portrays Jewish people in such stereotypical and not great ways during a time in history when anti-semitism is on the rise.

All of this plus more. And I'm Catholic. The lead actor is adorable, the brother and sister are hilarious, but I found it super cringey to joke about people's cluelessness around Judaism and lean into crude stereotypes for a show that was supposed to be thoughtful (e.g., not a satire.) So much hype and such a letdown.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how the characters are all so filthy rich.

The sisters don’t come off that rich. It was explained that Noah’s parents are super successful, own a business, huge mansion etc. and that Sasha works for the parents. Noah as a jr rabbi at a large urban synagogue probably makes 200k, probably had his parents give him money for his townhouse so has a small mortgage and is a single guy with a trust fund coming in.

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Anonymous wrote:Jewish person here.

I thought the show was cute and like/rooted for Joanne and Noah. I also thought it was completely ridiculous.
First off Joanne didn’t go to college and her only income is as a local podcast host (how can she even afford to live?). Jews tend to value education - she has a high school diploma and seemingly little worldly knowledge (has never heard the word shalom?). Though it seems she DOES know what it means to keep kosher, just doesn’t know that the meats were pork, which makes no sense.
If he were a reform rabbi a lot of this wouldn’t matter. His temple is clearly more religious. And that makes it all the more unbelievable.
All of which would be fine- this is entertainment. But I think it’s awful that the jewish creator of a TV show portrays Jewish people in such stereotypical and not great ways during a time in history when anti-semitism is on the rise.

All of this plus more. And I'm Catholic. The lead actor is adorable, the brother and sister are hilarious, but I found it super cringey to joke about people's cluelessness around Judaism and lean into crude stereotypes for a show that was supposed to be thoughtful (e.g., not a satire.) So much hype and such a letdown.

Obviously it’s dumbing things down to appeal to a wider audience. Jewish people are 2.4% of the population. It’s quite likely your average Netflix viewer isn’t very well informed about Jewish ways, terms, and customs. So there’s a lot of basic education going on assuming a lot of the audience is ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:Jewish person here.

I thought the show was cute and like/rooted for Joanne and Noah. I also thought it was completely ridiculous.
First off Joanne didn’t go to college and her only income is as a local podcast host (how can she even afford to live?). Jews tend to value education - she has a high school diploma and seemingly little worldly knowledge (has never heard the word shalom?). Though it seems she DOES know what it means to keep kosher, just doesn’t know that the meats were pork, which makes no sense.
If he were a reform rabbi a lot of this wouldn’t matter. His temple is clearly more religious. And that makes it all the more unbelievable.
All of which would be fine- this is entertainment. But I think it’s awful that the jewish creator of a TV show portrays Jewish people in such stereotypical and not great ways during a time in history when anti-semitism is on the rise.

All of this plus more. And I'm Catholic. The lead actor is adorable, the brother and sister are hilarious, but I found it super cringey to joke about people's cluelessness around Judaism and lean into crude stereotypes for a show that was supposed to be thoughtful (e.g., not a satire.) So much hype and such a letdown.

Obviously it’s dumbing things down to appeal to a wider audience. Jewish people are 2.4% of the population. It’s quite likely your average Netflix viewer isn’t very well informed about Jewish ways, terms, and customs. So there’s a lot of basic education going on assuming a lot of the audience is ignorant.

I thought this was filmed in New York. The % of Jewish people in NY is higher, especially if you look at it as a % of the white urban UMC population
Agree that the women were nasty, but they tend to be territorial in real life too.
Potential shiksas who have not yet converted and are just dating are treated like that