Republicans are revving up for a D.C. smackdown

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe republicans should focus on their own trash districts, many of which have far higher crime and poverty and crappier education than DC.


We are a large and complicated city and congressional representatives are already tied down with addressing the needs of their own constituents that they are supposed to represent.

There is no possible way that congress has the time to actually get into the nitty gritty detail of governing our city.... other than to enact some 'pet' issues for show and media sound bytes.


It is really a simple three step process:

1. Arrest those who commit crimes.
2. Have actual trials for those arrested.
3. Have those convicted of crimes spend time in jail. Extra 15 years if a weapon is used in commission of the crime.

Even those dim witted representatives from the South and the flyover states can figure it out.


lol then why haven’t they figured it out yet? there are many reforms that could improve criminal justice in DC - confirming judges in a timely manner is a big one. there’s nothing stopping Mr Jr Rep from Flyover State from drafting a bill to improve criminal justice in DC.

But we all know what this really is: just another node in the culture wars. Instead of judges, blather about right-on-red being an American entitlement.


+1 the fact they aren't working to confirm judges and fill vacancies RIGHT NOW is evidence they don't actually give a sh*t.


Have you seen some of the gems Biden has sent up for confirmation? These folks aren’t there to convict criminals.


Judicial nominations have to be a political compromise. If not it becomes a stalemate and no judges will ever get confirmed. This may be less disruptive for federal judges but it’s extremely disruptive for DC.


+1 and is a reason DC needs self government rather than being dependent on the whims of congress regardless of who has the majority

We already are held hostage between political parties and it would only get worse to put more bureaucracy in the hands of people who have no interest motivation nor time to govern our city.


Self governance would be great, but DC has demonstrated time and again that it is not capable of self governance. This is in part because DC is a one-party town, so there is no natural check to the worst behaviors of the governing party. DC absolutely needs some sort of outside force to achieve any sort of sanity. Give DC more control over itself in its current state, and it will descend into madness that much quicker.


Give some examples of how D.C. has demonstrated that time and again, that it is "not capable of self governance." "Elected officials make decisions I disagree with" does not count.


We generally consider children capable of self-governance when they stop making decisions that harm themselves and others. Additionally, the ability to accept responsibility when things go wrong, and correct behavior are hallmarks of being ready for self-governance.

So let's just take crime for example. Raising the age of childhood to 26, hobbling the police, no-papering anyone actually arrested, shaming anyone who actually cares about crime, denying there was a problem and then trying to blame anyone but themselves for the problem seems pretty governance-incapable to me. What do you think?


Who's "we" in this sentence? In the US I live in, you're an adult at age 18, regardless of others' opinions about your decision-making capabilities.


Wow, where are you posting from? Because everyone in DC knows that the age of childhood for criminal is set at 26 years of age.

That reason alone is why DC requires outside governance. Add in allowing non-citizens to vote in local elections, proves DC is incapable of self governance.


Non-citizens are also allowed to vote in local elections in San Francisco and Oakland and in Chevy Chase, Takoma Park, Hyattsville, Mount Rainier and Garrett Park, Maryland. I suppose someone better shut down those local governments, too?


... and other areas of the US as well

https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_permitting_noncitizens_to_vote_in_the_United_States
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe republicans should focus on their own trash districts, many of which have far higher crime and poverty and crappier education than DC.


We are a large and complicated city and congressional representatives are already tied down with addressing the needs of their own constituents that they are supposed to represent.

There is no possible way that congress has the time to actually get into the nitty gritty detail of governing our city.... other than to enact some 'pet' issues for show and media sound bytes.


It is really a simple three step process:

1. Arrest those who commit crimes.
2. Have actual trials for those arrested.
3. Have those convicted of crimes spend time in jail. Extra 15 years if a weapon is used in commission of the crime.

Even those dim witted representatives from the South and the flyover states can figure it out.


lol then why haven’t they figured it out yet? there are many reforms that could improve criminal justice in DC - confirming judges in a timely manner is a big one. there’s nothing stopping Mr Jr Rep from Flyover State from drafting a bill to improve criminal justice in DC.

But we all know what this really is: just another node in the culture wars. Instead of judges, blather about right-on-red being an American entitlement.


+1 the fact they aren't working to confirm judges and fill vacancies RIGHT NOW is evidence they don't actually give a sh*t.


Have you seen some of the gems Biden has sent up for confirmation? These folks aren’t there to convict criminals.


Judicial nominations have to be a political compromise. If not it becomes a stalemate and no judges will ever get confirmed. This may be less disruptive for federal judges but it’s extremely disruptive for DC.


+1 and is a reason DC needs self government rather than being dependent on the whims of congress regardless of who has the majority

We already are held hostage between political parties and it would only get worse to put more bureaucracy in the hands of people who have no interest motivation nor time to govern our city.


Self governance would be great, but DC has demonstrated time and again that it is not capable of self governance. This is in part because DC is a one-party town, so there is no natural check to the worst behaviors of the governing party. DC absolutely needs some sort of outside force to achieve any sort of sanity. Give DC more control over itself in its current state, and it will descend into madness that much quicker.


Give some examples of how D.C. has demonstrated that time and again, that it is "not capable of self governance." "Elected officials make decisions I disagree with" does not count.


We generally consider children capable of self-governance when they stop making decisions that harm themselves and others. Additionally, the ability to accept responsibility when things go wrong, and correct behavior are hallmarks of being ready for self-governance.

So let's just take crime for example. Raising the age of childhood to 26, hobbling the police, no-papering anyone actually arrested, shaming anyone who actually cares about crime, denying there was a problem and then trying to blame anyone but themselves for the problem seems pretty governance-incapable to me. What do you think?


Who's "we" in this sentence? In the US I live in, you're an adult at age 18, regardless of others' opinions about your decision-making capabilities.


Wow, where are you posting from? Because everyone in DC knows that the age of childhood for criminal is set at 26 years of age.

That reason alone is why DC requires outside governance. Add in allowing non-citizens to vote in local elections, proves DC is incapable of self governance.


Non-citizens are also allowed to vote in local elections in San Francisco and Oakland and in Chevy Chase, Takoma Park, Hyattsville, Mount Rainier and Garrett Park, Maryland. I suppose someone better shut down those local governments, too?


... and other areas of the US as well

https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_permitting_noncitizens_to_vote_in_the_United_States


I would not disagree with state takeovers of cities that permit non-citizen voting, but its neither here nor there for this topic.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe republicans should focus on their own trash districts, many of which have far higher crime and poverty and crappier education than DC.


We are a large and complicated city and congressional representatives are already tied down with addressing the needs of their own constituents that they are supposed to represent.

There is no possible way that congress has the time to actually get into the nitty gritty detail of governing our city.... other than to enact some 'pet' issues for show and media sound bytes.


It is really a simple three step process:

1. Arrest those who commit crimes.
2. Have actual trials for those arrested.
3. Have those convicted of crimes spend time in jail. Extra 15 years if a weapon is used in commission of the crime.

Even those dim witted representatives from the South and the flyover states can figure it out.


lol then why haven’t they figured it out yet? there are many reforms that could improve criminal justice in DC - confirming judges in a timely manner is a big one. there’s nothing stopping Mr Jr Rep from Flyover State from drafting a bill to improve criminal justice in DC.

But we all know what this really is: just another node in the culture wars. Instead of judges, blather about right-on-red being an American entitlement.


+1 the fact they aren't working to confirm judges and fill vacancies RIGHT NOW is evidence they don't actually give a sh*t.


Have you seen some of the gems Biden has sent up for confirmation? These folks aren’t there to convict criminals.


Judicial nominations have to be a political compromise. If not it becomes a stalemate and no judges will ever get confirmed. This may be less disruptive for federal judges but it’s extremely disruptive for DC.


+1 and is a reason DC needs self government rather than being dependent on the whims of congress regardless of who has the majority

We already are held hostage between political parties and it would only get worse to put more bureaucracy in the hands of people who have no interest motivation nor time to govern our city.


Self governance would be great, but DC has demonstrated time and again that it is not capable of self governance. This is in part because DC is a one-party town, so there is no natural check to the worst behaviors of the governing party. DC absolutely needs some sort of outside force to achieve any sort of sanity. Give DC more control over itself in its current state, and it will descend into madness that much quicker.


Give some examples of how D.C. has demonstrated that time and again, that it is "not capable of self governance." "Elected officials make decisions I disagree with" does not count.


We generally consider children capable of self-governance when they stop making decisions that harm themselves and others. Additionally, the ability to accept responsibility when things go wrong, and correct behavior are hallmarks of being ready for self-governance.

So let's just take crime for example. Raising the age of childhood to 26, hobbling the police, no-papering anyone actually arrested, shaming anyone who actually cares about crime, denying there was a problem and then trying to blame anyone but themselves for the problem seems pretty governance-incapable to me. What do you think?


Who's "we" in this sentence? In the US I live in, you're an adult at age 18, regardless of others' opinions about your decision-making capabilities.


Wow, where are you posting from? Because everyone in DC knows that the age of childhood for criminal is set at 26 years of age.

That reason alone is why DC requires outside governance. Add in allowing non-citizens to vote in local elections, proves DC is incapable of self governance.


Non-citizens are also allowed to vote in local elections in San Francisco and Oakland and in Chevy Chase, Takoma Park, Hyattsville, Mount Rainier and Garrett Park, Maryland. I suppose someone better shut down those local governments, too?


... and other areas of the US as well

https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_permitting_noncitizens_to_vote_in_the_United_States


I would not disagree with state takeovers of cities that permit non-citizen voting, but its neither here nor there for this topic.


It sort of is here or there for this topic, since some PPs are saying the fact that D.C. allows non-citizens to vote in local elections is evidence that D.C. lose its ability to govern itself. At least you're being intellectually consistent, even if I disagree with your position, in demanding the same lack of self-governance for other locations.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe republicans should focus on their own trash districts, many of which have far higher crime and poverty and crappier education than DC.


We are a large and complicated city and congressional representatives are already tied down with addressing the needs of their own constituents that they are supposed to represent.

There is no possible way that congress has the time to actually get into the nitty gritty detail of governing our city.... other than to enact some 'pet' issues for show and media sound bytes.


It is really a simple three step process:

1. Arrest those who commit crimes.
2. Have actual trials for those arrested.
3. Have those convicted of crimes spend time in jail. Extra 15 years if a weapon is used in commission of the crime.

Even those dim witted representatives from the South and the flyover states can figure it out.


lol then why haven’t they figured it out yet? there are many reforms that could improve criminal justice in DC - confirming judges in a timely manner is a big one. there’s nothing stopping Mr Jr Rep from Flyover State from drafting a bill to improve criminal justice in DC.

But we all know what this really is: just another node in the culture wars. Instead of judges, blather about right-on-red being an American entitlement.


+1 the fact they aren't working to confirm judges and fill vacancies RIGHT NOW is evidence they don't actually give a sh*t.


Have you seen some of the gems Biden has sent up for confirmation? These folks aren’t there to convict criminals.


Judicial nominations have to be a political compromise. If not it becomes a stalemate and no judges will ever get confirmed. This may be less disruptive for federal judges but it’s extremely disruptive for DC.


+1 and is a reason DC needs self government rather than being dependent on the whims of congress regardless of who has the majority

We already are held hostage between political parties and it would only get worse to put more bureaucracy in the hands of people who have no interest motivation nor time to govern our city.


Self governance would be great, but DC has demonstrated time and again that it is not capable of self governance. This is in part because DC is a one-party town, so there is no natural check to the worst behaviors of the governing party. DC absolutely needs some sort of outside force to achieve any sort of sanity. Give DC more control over itself in its current state, and it will descend into madness that much quicker.


Give some examples of how D.C. has demonstrated that time and again, that it is "not capable of self governance." "Elected officials make decisions I disagree with" does not count.


We generally consider children capable of self-governance when they stop making decisions that harm themselves and others. Additionally, the ability to accept responsibility when things go wrong, and correct behavior are hallmarks of being ready for self-governance.

So let's just take crime for example. Raising the age of childhood to 26, hobbling the police, no-papering anyone actually arrested, shaming anyone who actually cares about crime, denying there was a problem and then trying to blame anyone but themselves for the problem seems pretty governance-incapable to me. What do you think?


Who's "we" in this sentence? In the US I live in, you're an adult at age 18, regardless of others' opinions about your decision-making capabilities.


Wow, where are you posting from? Because everyone in DC knows that the age of childhood for criminal is set at 26 years of age.

That reason alone is why DC requires outside governance. Add in allowing non-citizens to vote in local elections, proves DC is incapable of self governance.


Non-citizens are also allowed to vote in local elections in San Francisco and Oakland and in Chevy Chase, Takoma Park, Hyattsville, Mount Rainier and Garrett Park, Maryland. I suppose someone better shut down those local governments, too?


... and other areas of the US as well

https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_permitting_noncitizens_to_vote_in_the_United_States


I would not disagree with state takeovers of cities that permit non-citizen voting, but its neither here nor there for this topic.


I think that's authoritative and it should be decided in the courts rather than some authoritative entire state takeover. But it does seem like you like authoritative/dictator style government.
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State of play: House Republicans have many ideas: ban all traffic cameras, ban D.C. from banning right-turns-on-red, prohibit non-U.S. citizens from voting in local elections, and repeal the assisted-suicide "Death with Dignity" law.

I’m a lifelong Dem and would welcome each of these Rep laws. Throw in tough on crime, more police, enforcing noise and scooter regulations and I’ll vote for them next time
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Anonymous wrote:State of play: House Republicans have many ideas: ban all traffic cameras, ban D.C. from banning right-turns-on-red, prohibit non-U.S. citizens from voting in local elections, and repeal the assisted-suicide "Death with Dignity" law.

I’m a lifelong Dem and would welcome each of these Rep laws. Throw in tough on crime, more police, enforcing noise and scooter regulations and I’ll vote for them next time


Lifelong Dem For Republicans Against Law And Order.

Lifelong Dem For Republicans For Big Government.
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Anonymous wrote:State of play: House Republicans have many ideas: ban all traffic cameras, ban D.C. from banning right-turns-on-red, prohibit non-U.S. citizens from voting in local elections, and repeal the assisted-suicide "Death with Dignity" law.

I’m a lifelong Dem and would welcome each of these Rep laws. Throw in tough on crime, more police, enforcing noise and scooter regulations and I’ll vote for them next time


Its telling that of the four issues listed, three are basically nonsense. I guess we can count on the Republican party to fumble on the 1-yard line over and over again.
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Anonymous wrote:State of play: House Republicans have many ideas: ban all traffic cameras, ban D.C. from banning right-turns-on-red, prohibit non-U.S. citizens from voting in local elections, and repeal the assisted-suicide "Death with Dignity" law.

I’m a lifelong Dem and would welcome each of these Rep laws. Throw in tough on crime, more police, enforcing noise and scooter regulations and I’ll vote for them next time


Its telling that of the four issues listed, three are basically nonsense. I guess we can count on the Republican party to fumble on the 1-yard line over and over again.


+1 they are not a democrat. They are a republican and a bad driver (who probably doesn't obey traffic laws or they wouldn't care about traffic cameras).

And yes we see when you keep ignoring the concern about republicans overriding the will of DC citizens with regard to abortion. Clearly a republican.

As an actual democrat, I support tough on crime but also recognize that it currently has a lot to do with the federally appointed USAO at the moment. Would like more accountability for drivers in the city, not less.
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And you’re exactly the type of twerp that’s giving Dems a bad name
Yes I’m a Dem and I’d like my streets to be clean, quiet and safe
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Anonymous wrote:And you’re exactly the type of twerp that’s giving Dems a bad name
Yes I’m a Dem and I’d like my streets to be clean, quiet and safe


And I prefer them not to have radical political movements names on them in twenty foot high letters (looking at you, BLM plaza).
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Anonymous wrote:And you’re exactly the type of twerp that’s giving Dems a bad name
Yes I’m a Dem and I’d like my streets to be clean, quiet and safe


What are you talking about? "Dems" don't have a bad name.

If you'd like your streets to be clean, quiet, and safe, then you should support automated traffic enforcement (including red light cameras) and No Turn On Red.
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Anonymous wrote:And you’re exactly the type of twerp that’s giving Dems a bad name
Yes I’m a Dem and I’d like my streets to be clean, quiet and safe


And I prefer them not to have radical political movements names on them in twenty foot high letters (looking at you, BLM plaza).


That is the best thing Muriel Bowser has done as mayor.
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Anonymous wrote:And you’re exactly the type of twerp that’s giving Dems a bad name
Yes I’m a Dem and I’d like my streets to be clean, quiet and safe


What are you talking about? "Dems" don't have a bad name.

If you'd like your streets to be clean, quiet, and safe, then you should support automated traffic enforcement (including red light cameras) and No Turn On Red.


I don’t support anything this council pushes. I’d love for the Home Rule to go away and for no income tax and to not have any ANC twerps like you suckling on my tax money
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Anonymous wrote:And you’re exactly the type of twerp that’s giving Dems a bad name
Yes I’m a Dem and I’d like my streets to be clean, quiet and safe


What are you talking about? "Dems" don't have a bad name.

If you'd like your streets to be clean, quiet, and safe, then you should support automated traffic enforcement (including red light cameras) and No Turn On Red.


I don’t support anything this council pushes. I’d love for the Home Rule to go away and for no income tax and to not have any ANC twerps like you suckling on my tax money


A perfectly un-weird thing for "a lifelong Dem" to say.
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Who cares? You have no say in my enclave.
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