I can't with the acrylic nails trend

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Anonymous wrote:LOVE, LOVE, LOVE my nails and so does my DH. I'll ask your opinion on them when you start paying for me to get my nails done.

You’re a teen? With a husband? Or just making irrelevant comments?

Oh she is just trying so desperately to be relevant.

See that's where you make another mistake. I like my nails. My DH likes my nails. I've had them for the better part of 30 years. They were ALWAYS relevant to me. It matters not one iota what you think of them. Zero.

The difference between you and me is that I couldn't care less what you wear. It's your body and you can do with it what you like. It speaks volumes about your character that something as innocuous as my nails is bothering you SOOOO much.

No sane male person likes acrylic nails - they just tolerate them.

Ok, I guess you know my DH better than I do. It kind of tracks with everything else you said

You're so smart.

DP and you are coming off the opposite of how you intend. Unless you intend to sound awfully insecure.

I don't think you like the implication of this thread that so many people out there in real life see your nails and inwardly cringe with disgust. These people don't have bad character, as you want to pretend to make yourself feel better. They are simply care more about hygiene than you do.

Oh please. Again, I don't care what you think about my nails. I'm 46, not some 16 year old seeking approval from every person I meet.

If it's about hygiene for you that's totally fine. Tell yourself whatever you want. But again, that has NOTHING to do with me. Just don't wear them and it's all fine.

The only thing stupider than a 16 year old wearing acrylic nails is a 46 year old wearing acrylic nails.

You look like an idiot.

DP, are you in HS still because at this point you are just reaching for petty insults to sling to keep this going. When you use the words “stupider” and “idiot” in an argument you’ve already lost.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not like the trashy comments on here. That is unkind and out of bounds.

But you long nail advocates cannot argue against the hygiene and chemicals aspects. You just can't. Long nails are dirty. I guarantee you don't have a hand washing routine that negates it. And having fake nails exposes you to a bunch of things that are harmful and unnecessary. Many of us don't want our kids exposed to that stuff. That is not pearl-clutching.

Most of us who are anti nails have solid reasons for finding them repulsive and not wanting people with them on touching food we will eat or similar (and I don't blame that lady for changing hair dressers).

If I worked as a nurse or in food service, no I would not have them. But I work in an office and don't eat with my hands so don't see a problem. I bet a lot of you who are so obsessed with chemicals used in acrylic nails don't have a problem with injecting botox into your face or using a plethora of other chemicals on your body. Spare me the outrage.

That is a sad that the only way you can defend yourself is to throw out baseless accusations. No, I don't use botox either and have no interest.

Some of us are consistent out there.

Defend myself????? Against what? The fact that you have nothing better to do than worry about what I wear is not something I need to defend against.

This is what people do on DCUM. They discuss mundane topics, including nails. If you are not up for that, you can move along.

Last time I checked, this was a thread about acrylic nails on teens. Do you have a comment with regard to teens wearing nails and parents paying for that? No? But here you are, a grown woman (I assume) who feels the need to derail the thread with your defense of your own nail wearing. WTF? Why are you even on this thread? Who is the person who has nothing better to do?

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Anonymous wrote:I do not like the trashy comments on here. That is unkind and out of bounds.

But you long nail advocates cannot argue against the hygiene and chemicals aspects. You just can't. Long nails are dirty. I guarantee you don't have a hand washing routine that negates it. And having fake nails exposes you to a bunch of things that are harmful and unnecessary. Many of us don't want our kids exposed to that stuff. That is not pearl-clutching.

Most of us who are anti nails have solid reasons for finding them repulsive and not wanting people with them on touching food we will eat or similar (and I don't blame that lady for changing hair dressers).

If I worked as a nurse or in food service, no I would not have them. But I work in an office and don't eat with my hands so don't see a problem. I bet a lot of you who are so obsessed with chemicals used in acrylic nails don't have a problem with injecting botox into your face or using a plethora of other chemicals on your body. Spare me the outrage.

That is a sad that the only way you can defend yourself is to throw out baseless accusations. No, I don't use botox either and have no interest.

Some of us are consistent out there.

Defend myself????? Against what? The fact that you have nothing better to do than worry about what I wear is not something I need to defend against.

This is what people do on DCUM. They discuss mundane topics, including nails. If you are not up for that, you can move along.

Last time I checked, this was a thread about acrylic nails on teens. Do you have a comment with regard to teens wearing nails and parents paying for that? No? But here you are, a grown woman (I assume) who feels the need to derail the thread with your defense of your own nail wearing. WTF? Why are you even on this thread? Who is the person who has nothing better to do?

As a matter of fact, I did have a comment for the OP about what she should do with respect to her daughter. And I didn't derail this thread any more than people calling it trashy, gross, or a number of other things which has nothing to do with OP's question. WTF are you here?

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Anonymous wrote:I do not like the trashy comments on here. That is unkind and out of bounds.

But you long nail advocates cannot argue against the hygiene and chemicals aspects. You just can't. Long nails are dirty. I guarantee you don't have a hand washing routine that negates it. And having fake nails exposes you to a bunch of things that are harmful and unnecessary. Many of us don't want our kids exposed to that stuff. That is not pearl-clutching.

Most of us who are anti nails have solid reasons for finding them repulsive and not wanting people with them on touching food we will eat or similar (and I don't blame that lady for changing hair dressers).

If I worked as a nurse or in food service, no I would not have them. But I work in an office and don't eat with my hands so don't see a problem. I bet a lot of you who are so obsessed with chemicals used in acrylic nails don't have a problem with injecting botox into your face or using a plethora of other chemicals on your body. Spare me the outrage.

That is a sad that the only way you can defend yourself is to throw out baseless accusations. No, I don't use botox either and have no interest.

Some of us are consistent out there.

Defend myself????? Against what? The fact that you have nothing better to do than worry about what I wear is not something I need to defend against.

This is what people do on DCUM. They discuss mundane topics, including nails. If you are not up for that, you can move along.

Last time I checked, this was a thread about acrylic nails on teens. Do you have a comment with regard to teens wearing nails and parents paying for that? No? But here you are, a grown woman (I assume) who feels the need to derail the thread with your defense of your own nail wearing. WTF? Why are you even on this thread? Who is the person who has nothing better to do?

But we know why you're here. To shit on other women for the choices they make with their bodies. Right?

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Anonymous wrote:I do not like the trashy comments on here. That is unkind and out of bounds.

But you long nail advocates cannot argue against the hygiene and chemicals aspects. You just can't. Long nails are dirty. I guarantee you don't have a hand washing routine that negates it. And having fake nails exposes you to a bunch of things that are harmful and unnecessary. Many of us don't want our kids exposed to that stuff. That is not pearl-clutching.

Most of us who are anti nails have solid reasons for finding them repulsive and not wanting people with them on touching food we will eat or similar (and I don't blame that lady for changing hair dressers).

If I worked as a nurse or in food service, no I would not have them. But I work in an office and don't eat with my hands so don't see a problem. I bet a lot of you who are so obsessed with chemicals used in acrylic nails don't have a problem with injecting botox into your face or using a plethora of other chemicals on your body. Spare me the outrage.

That is a sad that the only way you can defend yourself is to throw out baseless accusations. No, I don't use botox either and have no interest.

Some of us are consistent out there.

Defend myself????? Against what? The fact that you have nothing better to do than worry about what I wear is not something I need to defend against.

Your behavior on this thread is only furthering the stereotype about acrylic nails. (DP.)

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Anonymous wrote:LOVE, LOVE, LOVE my nails and so does my DH. I'll ask your opinion on them when you start paying for me to get my nails done.

You’re a teen? With a husband? Or just making irrelevant comments?

Oh she is just trying so desperately to be relevant.

See that's where you make another mistake. I like my nails. My DH likes my nails. I've had them for the better part of 30 years. They were ALWAYS relevant to me. It matters not one iota what you think of them. Zero.

The difference between you and me is that I couldn't care less what you wear. It's your body and you can do with it what you like. It speaks volumes about your character that something as innocuous as my nails is bothering you SOOOO much.

No sane male person likes acrylic nails - they just tolerate them.

Ok, I guess you know my DH better than I do. It kind of tracks with everything else you said

You're so smart.

DP and you are coming off the opposite of how you intend. Unless you intend to sound awfully insecure.

I don't think you like the implication of this thread that so many people out there in real life see your nails and inwardly cringe with disgust. These people don't have bad character, as you want to pretend to make yourself feel better. They are simply care more about hygiene than you do.

Oh please. Again, I don't care what you think about my nails. I'm 46, not some 16 year old seeking approval from every person I meet.

If it's about hygiene for you that's totally fine. Tell yourself whatever you want. But again, that has NOTHING to do with me. Just don't wear them and it's all fine.

The only thing stupider than a 16 year old wearing acrylic nails is a 46 year old wearing acrylic nails.

You look like an idiot.

DP, are you in HS still because at this point you are just reaching for petty insults to sling to keep this going. When you use the words “stupider” and “idiot” in an argument you’ve already lost.

I am the PP who called you insecure, but I did not write the post above. You are responding to more than one person.

You can't win this argument if you are talking about hygiene. Facts are against you on that one. The appearance part is a different thing and simply a matter of preference. If they were not so dirty, many of us wouldn't care about nails one bit. It would be no different than the style of your shirt etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not like the trashy comments on here. That is unkind and out of bounds.

But you long nail advocates cannot argue against the hygiene and chemicals aspects. You just can't. Long nails are dirty. I guarantee you don't have a hand washing routine that negates it. And having fake nails exposes you to a bunch of things that are harmful and unnecessary. Many of us don't want our kids exposed to that stuff. That is not pearl-clutching.

Most of us who are anti nails have solid reasons for finding them repulsive and not wanting people with them on touching food we will eat or similar (and I don't blame that lady for changing hair dressers).

If I worked as a nurse or in food service, no I would not have them. But I work in an office and don't eat with my hands so don't see a problem. I bet a lot of you who are so obsessed with chemicals used in acrylic nails don't have a problem with injecting botox into your face or using a plethora of other chemicals on your body. Spare me the outrage.

That is a sad that the only way you can defend yourself is to throw out baseless accusations. No, I don't use botox either and have no interest.

Some of us are consistent out there.

Defend myself????? Against what? The fact that you have nothing better to do than worry about what I wear is not something I need to defend against.

This is what people do on DCUM. They discuss mundane topics, including nails. If you are not up for that, you can move along.

Last time I checked, this was a thread about acrylic nails on teens. Do you have a comment with regard to teens wearing nails and parents paying for that? No? But here you are, a grown woman (I assume) who feels the need to derail the thread with your defense of your own nail wearing. WTF? Why are you even on this thread? Who is the person who has nothing better to do?

But we know why you're here. To shit on other women for the choices they make with their bodies. Right?

There is a difference between those of us confessing we find nails to be gross/unhygienic and those using words like "trashy". The hygiene part is a legit discussion that goes beyond just appearance.

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Anonymous wrote:LOVE, LOVE, LOVE my nails and so does my DH. I'll ask your opinion on them when you start paying for me to get my nails done.

You’re a teen? With a husband? Or just making irrelevant comments?

Oh she is just trying so desperately to be relevant.

See that's where you make another mistake. I like my nails. My DH likes my nails. I've had them for the better part of 30 years. They were ALWAYS relevant to me. It matters not one iota what you think of them. Zero.

The difference between you and me is that I couldn't care less what you wear. It's your body and you can do with it what you like. It speaks volumes about your character that something as innocuous as my nails is bothering you SOOOO much.

No sane male person likes acrylic nails - they just tolerate them.

Ok, I guess you know my DH better than I do. It kind of tracks with everything else you said

You're so smart.

DP and you are coming off the opposite of how you intend. Unless you intend to sound awfully insecure.

I don't think you like the implication of this thread that so many people out there in real life see your nails and inwardly cringe with disgust. These people don't have bad character, as you want to pretend to make yourself feel better. They are simply care more about hygiene than you do.

Oh please. Again, I don't care what you think about my nails. I'm 46, not some 16 year old seeking approval from every person I meet.

If it's about hygiene for you that's totally fine. Tell yourself whatever you want. But again, that has NOTHING to do with me. Just don't wear them and it's all fine.

The only thing stupider than a 16 year old wearing acrylic nails is a 46 year old wearing acrylic nails.

You look like an idiot.

DP, are you in HS still because at this point you are just reaching for petty insults to sling to keep this going. When you use the words “stupider” and “idiot” in an argument you’ve already lost.

I am the PP who called you insecure, but I did not write the post above. You are responding to more than one person.

You can't win this argument if you are talking about hygiene. Facts are against you on that one. The appearance part is a different thing and simply a matter of preference. If they were not so dirty, many of us wouldn't care about nails one bit. It would be no different than the style of your shirt etc.

Show me the evidence that my nails are inherently more dirty.

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Anonymous wrote:You should see the 20-somethings in my conservative office with these acrylic pointy tipped be-jeweled ombre nails. I don't get it. At all.

Same!! I work at an IT consulting firm and at an all-office social event I think every woman under 35 had long pointy almond nails.

Imagine that, different stylistic trends amongst different generations. I’m sure there was plenty of teeth gnashing over the appearances of young women in the 80s with the “higher the hair the closer to God” look and the excessive use of Aqua Net.

Shows your age (or lack of)

"Dress for Success" dictated that women in positions where they wanted to be take seriously, should refrain from "exuberant" hairstyles. Sure you may look and dress very much like the men in the office, but yeah, you would never see Texas style hair on Wall Street.

Ummm you know this thread is people pearl clutching over tween/teen girls and the length of their nails, not life on Wall Street right? And let’s be real 50 year old secretary Betty was definitely pearl clutching over what the new 25 year old employee was wearing and how her hair and makeup looked in the 80s.

The previous PP was talking about an office party in IT consulting. That 25 year old employee would learn how to dress to match her environment at a good college during interviews.

"That 25 year old employee"? What? That pp said everyone in their company between 25 and 35 had the nails. If that many people are doing it, they don't need to "learn how to dress to match [the] environment." They are the environment.

Meemaw will have you know that “Dress for Success” frowns upon such things.

Sorry still trashy

I’m going to bet you wouldn’t tell the Black woman in your office with acrylics that they are trashy. But carry on brave keyboard Karen.

DP here. I don’t openly comment on anyone’s appearance to them. Doesn’t mean it isn’t trashy.

Says who? You? Who made you the authority on what is and isn't trashy?

There is a pretty commonly recognized standard of what is trashy. No one can make you care, but that doesn’t make it not trashy.

I’ll give you some examples in case you are confused:

A lot of makeup and/or tanning
Long painted nails
Cleavage, stomach or butt cheeks showing
Very tight clothing

And that standard evolves. And the grannies miss it, and keep judging away at things that are the opposite of trashy -- stylish.

yes, acrylics and hanging butt cheeks are very stylish.

It's ok if you think they are not. Just don't wear them. Problem solved.

See how easy it is to not concern yourself with what other people do?

(typing this with my super long acrylic nails, BTW)

Oh, I know it's easy. But I prefer to judge.

What is the purpose?

I have no idea - does it need to have a purpose?

Anyways - a lot of people - and it's a really huge number and a significant proportion of the population - think that your nails are trashy, disgusting and unsanitary. According to you, we are not supposed to. But we still do.

Hahahahaha I love how you keep making sweeping generalizations. Did you conduct an official poll to come up with that conclusion?

NP. They are trashy, sorry they just are. Plus these are mostly done at cheap nail salons with exploited/illegal/human trafficked workers. No way would I want to be caught dead with acrylics or support that industry

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Anonymous wrote:You should see the 20-somethings in my conservative office with these acrylic pointy tipped be-jeweled ombre nails. I don't get it. At all.

Same!! I work at an IT consulting firm and at an all-office social event I think every woman under 35 had long pointy almond nails.

Imagine that, different stylistic trends amongst different generations. I’m sure there was plenty of teeth gnashing over the appearances of young women in the 80s with the “higher the hair the closer to God” look and the excessive use of Aqua Net.

Shows your age (or lack of)

"Dress for Success" dictated that women in positions where they wanted to be take seriously, should refrain from "exuberant" hairstyles. Sure you may look and dress very much like the men in the office, but yeah, you would never see Texas style hair on Wall Street.

Ummm you know this thread is people pearl clutching over tween/teen girls and the length of their nails, not life on Wall Street right? And let’s be real 50 year old secretary Betty was definitely pearl clutching over what the new 25 year old employee was wearing and how her hair and makeup looked in the 80s.

The previous PP was talking about an office party in IT consulting. That 25 year old employee would learn how to dress to match her environment at a good college during interviews.

"That 25 year old employee"? What? That pp said everyone in their company between 25 and 35 had the nails. If that many people are doing it, they don't need to "learn how to dress to match [the] environment." They are the environment.

Meemaw will have you know that “Dress for Success” frowns upon such things.

Sorry still trashy

I’m going to bet you wouldn’t tell the Black woman in your office with acrylics that they are trashy. But carry on brave keyboard Karen.

DP here. I don’t openly comment on anyone’s appearance to them. Doesn’t mean it isn’t trashy.

Says who? You? Who made you the authority on what is and isn't trashy?

There is a pretty commonly recognized standard of what is trashy. No one can make you care, but that doesn’t make it not trashy.

I’ll give you some examples in case you are confused:

A lot of makeup and/or tanning
Long painted nails
Cleavage, stomach or butt cheeks showing
Very tight clothing

And that standard evolves. And the grannies miss it, and keep judging away at things that are the opposite of trashy -- stylish.

yes, acrylics and hanging butt cheeks are very stylish.

It's ok if you think they are not. Just don't wear them. Problem solved.

See how easy it is to not concern yourself with what other people do?

(typing this with my super long acrylic nails, BTW)

Oh, I know it's easy. But I prefer to judge.

What is the purpose?

I have no idea - does it need to have a purpose?

Anyways - a lot of people - and it's a really huge number and a significant proportion of the population - think that your nails are trashy, disgusting and unsanitary. According to you, we are not supposed to. But we still do.

Hahahahaha I love how you keep making sweeping generalizations. Did you conduct an official poll to come up with that conclusion?

NP. They are trashy, sorry they just are. Plus these are mostly done at cheap nail salons with exploited/illegal/human trafficked workers. No way would I want to be caught dead with acrylics or support that industry

Please stop. You're just embarrassing yourself at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:LOVE, LOVE, LOVE my nails and so does my DH. I'll ask your opinion on them when you start paying for me to get my nails done.

You’re a teen? With a husband? Or just making irrelevant comments?

Oh she is just trying so desperately to be relevant.

See that's where you make another mistake. I like my nails. My DH likes my nails. I've had them for the better part of 30 years. They were ALWAYS relevant to me. It matters not one iota what you think of them. Zero.

The difference between you and me is that I couldn't care less what you wear. It's your body and you can do with it what you like. It speaks volumes about your character that something as innocuous as my nails is bothering you SOOOO much.

No sane male person likes acrylic nails - they just tolerate them.

Ok, I guess you know my DH better than I do. It kind of tracks with everything else you said

You're so smart.

DP and you are coming off the opposite of how you intend. Unless you intend to sound awfully insecure.

I don't think you like the implication of this thread that so many people out there in real life see your nails and inwardly cringe with disgust. These people don't have bad character, as you want to pretend to make yourself feel better. They are simply care more about hygiene than you do.

Oh please. Again, I don't care what you think about my nails. I'm 46, not some 16 year old seeking approval from every person I meet.

If it's about hygiene for you that's totally fine. Tell yourself whatever you want. But again, that has NOTHING to do with me. Just don't wear them and it's all fine.

The only thing stupider than a 16 year old wearing acrylic nails is a 46 year old wearing acrylic nails.

You look like an idiot.

DP, are you in HS still because at this point you are just reaching for petty insults to sling to keep this going. When you use the words “stupider” and “idiot” in an argument you’ve already lost.

I am the PP who called you insecure, but I did not write the post above. You are responding to more than one person.

You can't win this argument if you are talking about hygiene. Facts are against you on that one. The appearance part is a different thing and simply a matter of preference. If they were not so dirty, many of us wouldn't care about nails one bit. It would be no different than the style of your shirt etc.

I’m the poster you’re responding to and I really am a DP, not the one engaged in this argument. I just find it ridiculous that someone is trying to assert superiority by using the words “stupider” and “idiot”. This whole thread is a sad commentary that in the year 2024 women are really out here referring to other women and their style choices as trashy, etc.

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Those really long fake nails are nasty and look like ghetto. I'm not sure how people wearing nails like that don't realize that in real life (not insata bs) no one really wears crap like that.

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Anonymous wrote:LOVE, LOVE, LOVE my nails and so does my DH. I'll ask your opinion on them when you start paying for me to get my nails done.

You’re a teen? With a husband? Or just making irrelevant comments?

Oh she is just trying so desperately to be relevant.

See that's where you make another mistake. I like my nails. My DH likes my nails. I've had them for the better part of 30 years. They were ALWAYS relevant to me. It matters not one iota what you think of them. Zero.

The difference between you and me is that I couldn't care less what you wear. It's your body and you can do with it what you like. It speaks volumes about your character that something as innocuous as my nails is bothering you SOOOO much.

No sane male person likes acrylic nails - they just tolerate them.

Ok, I guess you know my DH better than I do. It kind of tracks with everything else you said

You're so smart.

DP and you are coming off the opposite of how you intend. Unless you intend to sound awfully insecure.

I don't think you like the implication of this thread that so many people out there in real life see your nails and inwardly cringe with disgust. These people don't have bad character, as you want to pretend to make yourself feel better. They are simply care more about hygiene than you do.

Oh please. Again, I don't care what you think about my nails. I'm 46, not some 16 year old seeking approval from every person I meet.

If it's about hygiene for you that's totally fine. Tell yourself whatever you want. But again, that has NOTHING to do with me. Just don't wear them and it's all fine.

The only thing stupider than a 16 year old wearing acrylic nails is a 46 year old wearing acrylic nails.

You look like an idiot.

DP, are you in HS still because at this point you are just reaching for petty insults to sling to keep this going. When you use the words “stupider” and “idiot” in an argument you’ve already lost.

I’m sorry that your parents and teachers made you think that adults cannot be stupid or idiotic and that other adults will not think and sometimes say so. They lied to you.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not like the trashy comments on here. That is unkind and out of bounds.

But you long nail advocates cannot argue against the hygiene and chemicals aspects. You just can't. Long nails are dirty. I guarantee you don't have a hand washing routine that negates it. And having fake nails exposes you to a bunch of things that are harmful and unnecessary. Many of us don't want our kids exposed to that stuff. That is not pearl-clutching.

Most of us who are anti nails have solid reasons for finding them repulsive and not wanting people with them on touching food we will eat or similar (and I don't blame that lady for changing hair dressers).

If I worked as a nurse or in food service, no I would not have them. But I work in an office and don't eat with my hands so don't see a problem. I bet a lot of you who are so obsessed with chemicals used in acrylic nails don't have a problem with injecting botox into your face or using a plethora of other chemicals on your body. Spare me the outrage.

That is a sad that the only way you can defend yourself is to throw out baseless accusations. No, I don't use botox either and have no interest.

Some of us are consistent out there.

Defend myself????? Against what? The fact that you have nothing better to do than worry about what I wear is not something I need to defend against.

Try to consider this a bit of a tough love. As I said, I a lot of people around you, people you see every day, think what some of us have said here. A lot of people draw negative conclusions about you because of your nails. This is just a fact.

Now, you might not care, "I love my nails, I have the right" etc. If you really don't care what other people think about you, fine. It's the price you are willing to pay.

However, it looks like you weren't fully aware of what other people think about your nails, and you. Yes, you as a person, although it's "just nails". If I were you I, too, would be upset and angry to find that out, but also, I would keep it in mind going forward.

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I truly don’t understand why we can’t say a “style choice” looks trashy or low class. How else can it be described?