Talk me off a ledge

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I find it utterly bizarre that you allowed your daughter to apply to any school that would actually be a stretch financially. It sounds like all of the other schools she applied to are expensive privates - why? You say she wasn't interested in a large state school, but surely there were small or mid-sized Pennsylvania state schools she could have included in her list? Your situation is so bizarre because while you don't want her to attend the no-name school for free, you also seem hesitant to pay $200,000 on an expensive private.

Where are your state school options?

She said that the kid didn’t like big state schools. Get off her back about the list and try to be constructive!

OP- if your kid is okay with the free school, go for it. She can transfer to UMD or your flagship state school if it feels wrong… with nothing out of pocket. Good luck.

Is it easy to transfer to UMD or UVA?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I find it utterly bizarre that you allowed your daughter to apply to any school that would actually be a stretch financially. It sounds like all of the other schools she applied to are expensive privates - why? You say she wasn't interested in a large state school, but surely there were small or mid-sized Pennsylvania state schools she could have included in her list? Your situation is so bizarre because while you don't want her to attend the no-name school for free, you also seem hesitant to pay $200,000 on an expensive private.

Where are your state school options?

She said that the kid didn’t like big state schools. Get off her back about the list and try to be constructive!

OP- if your kid is okay with the free school, go for it. She can transfer to UMD or your flagship state school if it feels wrong… with nothing out of pocket. Good luck.

Is it easy to transfer to UMD or UVA?

Not particularly, really not sure why people think it would be so easy to transfer from ESU to a T50 public. Way better off coming from a local community college with an established pathway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I find it utterly bizarre that you allowed your daughter to apply to any school that would actually be a stretch financially. It sounds like all of the other schools she applied to are expensive privates - why? You say she wasn't interested in a large state school, but surely there were small or mid-sized Pennsylvania state schools she could have included in her list? Your situation is so bizarre because while you don't want her to attend the no-name school for free, you also seem hesitant to pay $200,000 on an expensive private.

Where are your state school options?

She said that the kid didn’t like big state schools. Get off her back about the list and try to be constructive!

OP- if your kid is okay with the free school, go for it. She can transfer to UMD or your flagship state school if it feels wrong… with nothing out of pocket. Good luck.

Can you even read? I suggested small/mid-sized state universities. And I stand by my post. She's complaining about her options and for some odd reason, didn't insist her daughter apply to affordable schools.

Sorry, what's the rule here? "Land the helicopter?" or "insist" they do what parents want?

Not sure what you're talking about - I've never taken either approach. But I sure as hell wouldn't allow my kid to apply to schools that I knew I wouldn't be able to comfortably afford. What, exactly, is the point of that?

YOU Haven't? Congrats. Many, many others have.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I find it utterly bizarre that you allowed your daughter to apply to any school that would actually be a stretch financially. It sounds like all of the other schools she applied to are expensive privates - why? You say she wasn't interested in a large state school, but surely there were small or mid-sized Pennsylvania state schools she could have included in her list? Your situation is so bizarre because while you don't want her to attend the no-name school for free, you also seem hesitant to pay $200,000 on an expensive private.

Where are your state school options?

She said that the kid didn’t like big state schools. Get off her back about the list and try to be constructive!

OP- if your kid is okay with the free school, go for it. She can transfer to UMD or your flagship state school if it feels wrong… with nothing out of pocket. Good luck.

Is it easy to transfer to UMD or UVA?

Not particularly, really not sure why people think it would be so easy to transfer from ESU to a T50 public. Way better off coming from a local community college with an established pathway.

That’s what I was thinking…this idea of going to a 10th rate school and just transferring to anywhere you want seems unrealistic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I find it utterly bizarre that you allowed your daughter to apply to any school that would actually be a stretch financially. It sounds like all of the other schools she applied to are expensive privates - why? You say she wasn't interested in a large state school, but surely there were small or mid-sized Pennsylvania state schools she could have included in her list? Your situation is so bizarre because while you don't want her to attend the no-name school for free, you also seem hesitant to pay $200,000 on an expensive private.

Where are your state school options?

She said that the kid didn’t like big state schools. Get off her back about the list and try to be constructive!

OP- if your kid is okay with the free school, go for it. She can transfer to UMD or your flagship state school if it feels wrong… with nothing out of pocket. Good luck.

Can you even read? I suggested small/mid-sized state universities. And I stand by my post. She's complaining about her options and for some odd reason, didn't insist her daughter apply to affordable schools.

Sorry, what's the rule here? "Land the helicopter?" or "insist" they do what parents want?

Not sure what you're talking about - I've never taken either approach. But I sure as hell wouldn't allow my kid to apply to schools that I knew I wouldn't be able to comfortably afford. What, exactly, is the point of that?

YOU Haven't? Congrats. Many, many others have.

Ok - well, you asked the question in response to MY post, so I responded.

[Anonymous]

I’ve never heard of this school. That’s not a good sign. I think your gut is telling you something and you should listen to it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I find it utterly bizarre that you allowed your daughter to apply to any school that would actually be a stretch financially. It sounds like all of the other schools she applied to are expensive privates - why? You say she wasn't interested in a large state school, but surely there were small or mid-sized Pennsylvania state schools she could have included in her list? Your situation is so bizarre because while you don't want her to attend the no-name school for free, you also seem hesitant to pay $200,000 on an expensive private.

Where are your state school options?

She said that the kid didn’t like big state schools. Get off her back about the list and try to be constructive!

OP- if your kid is okay with the free school, go for it. She can transfer to UMD or your flagship state school if it feels wrong… with nothing out of pocket. Good luck.

Is it easy to transfer to UMD or UVA?

Not particularly, really not sure why people think it would be so easy to transfer from ESU to a T50 public. Way better off coming from a local community college with an established pathway.

This. East Stroudsburg is not a good school and has no relationship with UMD or UVA. Does it have matriculation agreements with any decent PA publics? Because, if not, this is a firm no for me.

What state do you live in, OP? If she can get into Colgate & Villanova, there is a happy medium. Perhaps the smaller non-flagship campus of a state college?

I went to HYPS and I 100% admit I am a school snob. But I would do everything in my power to convince my kid to go somewhere better. And, being honest, I would cave and take a second mortgage/co-sign loans/etc to send her to either Colgate or Villanova. They are *so* much better than ESU. It is really hard to overstate the difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I find it utterly bizarre that you allowed your daughter to apply to any school that would actually be a stretch financially. It sounds like all of the other schools she applied to are expensive privates - why? You say she wasn't interested in a large state school, but surely there were small or mid-sized Pennsylvania state schools she could have included in her list? Your situation is so bizarre because while you don't want her to attend the no-name school for free, you also seem hesitant to pay $200,000 on an expensive private.

Where are your state school options?

She said that the kid didn’t like big state schools. Get off her back about the list and try to be constructive!

OP- if your kid is okay with the free school, go for it. She can transfer to UMD or your flagship state school if it feels wrong… with nothing out of pocket. Good luck.

Is it easy to transfer to UMD or UVA?

Not particularly, really not sure why people think it would be so easy to transfer from ESU to a T50 public. Way better off coming from a local community college with an established pathway.

This. East Stroudsburg is not a good school and has no relationship with UMD or UVA. Does it have matriculation agreements with any decent PA publics? Because, if not, this is a firm no for me.

What state do you live in, OP? If she can get into Colgate & Villanova, there is a happy medium. Perhaps the smaller non-flagship campus of a state college?

I went to HYPS and I 100% admit I am a school snob. But I would do everything in my power to convince my kid to go somewhere better. And, being honest, I would cave and take a second mortgage/co-sign loans/etc to send her to either Colgate or Villanova. They are *so* much better than ESU. It is really hard to overstate the difference.

Not everyone has that luxury.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know much about pre-med and med schools, but I’ve been doing a bit of googling because my HS son wants to be a doctor. What I have deduced is that in the end it really doesn’t matter where you go to school. Just look at all the doctor’s credentials on Inova’s website. Most schools are foreign or unknown.
I was surprised that my well known and highly regarded doctor who delivered two of my kids went to med school in Mexico, Autonama University of Guadalajara.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I find it utterly bizarre that you allowed your daughter to apply to any school that would actually be a stretch financially. It sounds like all of the other schools she applied to are expensive privates - why? You say she wasn't interested in a large state school, but surely there were small or mid-sized Pennsylvania state schools she could have included in her list? Your situation is so bizarre because while you don't want her to attend the no-name school for free, you also seem hesitant to pay $200,000 on an expensive private.

Where are your state school options?

She said that the kid didn’t like big state schools. Get off her back about the list and try to be constructive!

OP- if your kid is okay with the free school, go for it. She can transfer to UMD or your flagship state school if it feels wrong… with nothing out of pocket. Good luck.

Is it easy to transfer to UMD or UVA?

Not particularly, really not sure why people think it would be so easy to transfer from ESU to a T50 public. Way better off coming from a local community college with an established pathway.

This. East Stroudsburg is not a good school and has no relationship with UMD or UVA. Does it have matriculation agreements with any decent PA publics? Because, if not, this is a firm no for me.

What state do you live in, OP? If she can get into Colgate & Villanova, there is a happy medium. Perhaps the smaller non-flagship campus of a state college?

I went to HYPS and I 100% admit I am a school snob. But I would do everything in my power to convince my kid to go somewhere better. And, being honest, I would cave and take a second mortgage/co-sign loans/etc to send her to either Colgate or Villanova. They are *so* much better than ESU. It is really hard to overstate the difference.

Not everyone has that luxury.

That’s true. But OP didn’t make it sound like that was her position.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know much about pre-med and med schools, but I’ve been doing a bit of googling because my HS son wants to be a doctor. What I have deduced is that in the end it really doesn’t matter where you go to school. Just look at all the doctor’s credentials on Inova’s website. Most schools are foreign or unknown.
I was surprised that my well known and highly regarded doctor who delivered two of my kids went to med school in Mexico, Autonama University of Guadalajara.

Can you tell me where you found this information? I see the MEDICAL school information but not the undergrad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know much about pre-med and med schools, but I’ve been doing a bit of googling because my HS son wants to be a doctor. What I have deduced is that in the end it really doesn’t matter where you go to school. Just look at all the doctor’s credentials on Inova’s website. Most schools are foreign or unknown.
I was surprised that my well known and highly regarded doctor who delivered two of my kids went to med school in Mexico, Autonama University of Guadalajara.

What that means is that it is possible to get a job in the U.S. if you go to a foreign medical school, although it certainly isn’t easy. It tells you nothing about acceptance to a U.S. medical school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I find it utterly bizarre that you allowed your daughter to apply to any school that would actually be a stretch financially. It sounds like all of the other schools she applied to are expensive privates - why? You say she wasn't interested in a large state school, but surely there were small or mid-sized Pennsylvania state schools she could have included in her list? Your situation is so bizarre because while you don't want her to attend the no-name school for free, you also seem hesitant to pay $200,000 on an expensive private.

Where are your state school options?

She said that the kid didn’t like big state schools. Get off her back about the list and try to be constructive!

OP- if your kid is okay with the free school, go for it. She can transfer to UMD or your flagship state school if it feels wrong… with nothing out of pocket. Good luck.

Is it easy to transfer to UMD or UVA?

Not particularly, really not sure why people think it would be so easy to transfer from ESU to a T50 public. Way better off coming from a local community college with an established pathway.

This. East Stroudsburg is not a good school and has no relationship with UMD or UVA. Does it have matriculation agreements with any decent PA publics? Because, if not, this is a firm no for me.

What state do you live in, OP? If she can get into Colgate & Villanova, there is a happy medium. Perhaps the smaller non-flagship campus of a state college?

I went to HYPS and I 100% admit I am a school snob. But I would do everything in my power to convince my kid to go somewhere better. And, being honest, I would cave and take a second mortgage/co-sign loans/etc to send her to either Colgate or Villanova. They are *so* much better than ESU. It is really hard to overstate the difference.

What’s the difference?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I find it utterly bizarre that you allowed your daughter to apply to any school that would actually be a stretch financially. It sounds like all of the other schools she applied to are expensive privates - why? You say she wasn't interested in a large state school, but surely there were small or mid-sized Pennsylvania state schools she could have included in her list? Your situation is so bizarre because while you don't want her to attend the no-name school for free, you also seem hesitant to pay $200,000 on an expensive private.

Where are your state school options?

She said that the kid didn’t like big state schools. Get off her back about the list and try to be constructive!

OP- if your kid is okay with the free school, go for it. She can transfer to UMD or your flagship state school if it feels wrong… with nothing out of pocket. Good luck.

Is it easy to transfer to UMD or UVA?

Not particularly, really not sure why people think it would be so easy to transfer from ESU to a T50 public. Way better off coming from a local community college with an established pathway.

This. East Stroudsburg is not a good school and has no relationship with UMD or UVA. Does it have matriculation agreements with any decent PA publics? Because, if not, this is a firm no for me.

What state do you live in, OP? If she can get into Colgate & Villanova, there is a happy medium. Perhaps the smaller non-flagship campus of a state college?

I went to HYPS and I 100% admit I am a school snob. But I would do everything in my power to convince my kid to go somewhere better. And, being honest, I would cave and take a second mortgage/co-sign loans/etc to send her to either Colgate or Villanova. They are *so* much better than ESU. It is really hard to overstate the difference.

What's the happy medium in VA? There are other threads for the various states that come down hard on those too--- VA? Lynchburg? Bridgewater? Roanoke? UMW? CNU?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I find it utterly bizarre that you allowed your daughter to apply to any school that would actually be a stretch financially. It sounds like all of the other schools she applied to are expensive privates - why? You say she wasn't interested in a large state school, but surely there were small or mid-sized Pennsylvania state schools she could have included in her list? Your situation is so bizarre because while you don't want her to attend the no-name school for free, you also seem hesitant to pay $200,000 on an expensive private.

Where are your state school options?

She said that the kid didn’t like big state schools. Get off her back about the list and try to be constructive!

OP- if your kid is okay with the free school, go for it. She can transfer to UMD or your flagship state school if it feels wrong… with nothing out of pocket. Good luck.

Is it easy to transfer to UMD or UVA?

Not particularly, really not sure why people think it would be so easy to transfer from ESU to a T50 public. Way better off coming from a local community college with an established pathway.

This. East Stroudsburg is not a good school and has no relationship with UMD or UVA. Does it have matriculation agreements with any decent PA publics? Because, if not, this is a firm no for me.

What state do you live in, OP? If she can get into Colgate & Villanova, there is a happy medium. Perhaps the smaller non-flagship campus of a state college?

I went to HYPS and I 100% admit I am a school snob. But I would do everything in my power to convince my kid to go somewhere better. And, being honest, I would cave and take a second mortgage/co-sign loans/etc to send her to either Colgate or Villanova. They are *so* much better than ESU. It is really hard to overstate the difference.

What's the happy medium in VA? There are other threads for the various states that come down hard on those too--- VA? Lynchburg? Bridgewater? Roanoke? UMW? CNU?

I think CNU and UWM are squarely in the middle in VA these days. JMU too, though it’s gotten more competitive (but still a pretty high acceptance rate overall).