Gender/Women’s Studies Major /App Strategy

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Anonymous wrote:She should go to the cheapest college possible if she's going to major in that. Otherwise she'll be saddled with student debt she'll never be able to pay off.

Why would you assume debt? A lot of us are full pay.

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Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand how Women's Studies majors all got changed to Gender Studies or Gender and Sexuality was added to the name of the major. We still live in a patriarchal male-dominant society where women continue to fight hard to be heard and respected. It seems like it is one more way in which women get devalued or told they have to be more inclusive. Women's Study always included topics of race, gender, and sexuality.

Because women are supposed to be accommodating and kind, so obviously they don't mind being erased in favor of "gender studies," a study that often includes negating their entire gender, having half their members declare themselves no longer women because they find feminine traits unpalatable, and their definitions of womenhood have narrowed so much, and... it's kind of a fascinating car crash that no one is allowed to talk about, because, apparently, it's hateful.

The hell are you prattling on about, you histrionic ninny?

Well played.

[Anonymous]

my rising senior is trying to decide between (1) women's studies; (2) sociology and (3) undecided or American Studies or Anthropology.

Is there any benefit to any of these majors (as a strategy) at T50 schools?

Female.
top rated non-DMV private HS.
High grades/stats and ECs that relate to women's studies and sociology, along with some national recognition.

Unclear about what her strategy should be.
OP - thoughts or weigh in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:my rising senior is trying to decide between (1) women's studies; (2) sociology and (3) undecided or American Studies or Anthropology.

Is there any benefit to any of these majors (as a strategy) at T50 schools?

Female.
top rated non-DMV private HS.
High grades/stats and ECs that relate to women's studies and sociology, along with some national recognition.

Unclear about what her strategy should be.
OP - thoughts or weigh in?

I’d apply where she wants to go. Though some top schools don’t have majors (just minors) available in these fields. So that’s something to look at. It probably would distinguish her more if she were a boy.

[Anonymous]

The smartest person I know majored in this at UChicago because she wanted a 4.0 to apply to law school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:my rising senior is trying to decide between (1) women's studies; (2) sociology and (3) undecided or American Studies or Anthropology.

When she graduates, she can ponder the mystery of the gender wage gap, where women earn 77% of men. It must be the patriarchy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand how Women's Studies majors all got changed to Gender Studies or Gender and Sexuality was added to the name of the major. We still live in a patriarchal male-dominant society where women continue to fight hard to be heard and respected. It seems like it is one more way in which women get devalued or told they have to be more inclusive. Women's Study always included topics of race, gender, and sexuality.

Because women are supposed to be accommodating and kind, so obviously they don't mind being erased in favor of "gender studies," a study that often includes negating their entire gender, having half their members declare themselves no longer women because they find feminine traits unpalatable, and their definitions of womenhood have narrowed so much, and... it's kind of a fascinating car crash that no one is allowed to talk about, because, apparently, it's hateful.

Accurate. Thanks for putting this into words.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand how Women's Studies majors all got changed to Gender Studies or Gender and Sexuality was added to the name of the major. We still live in a patriarchal male-dominant society where women continue to fight hard to be heard and respected. It seems like it is one more way in which women get devalued or told they have to be more inclusive. Women's Study always included topics of race, gender, and sexuality.

Because women are supposed to be accommodating and kind, so obviously they don't mind being erased in favor of "gender studies," a study that often includes negating their entire gender, having half their members declare themselves no longer women because they find feminine traits unpalatable, and their definitions of womenhood have narrowed so much, and... it's kind of a fascinating car crash that no one is allowed to talk about, because, apparently, it's hateful.

Accurate. Thanks for putting this into words.

Touché

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people feel entitled to judge what other people’s kids study in college?

Because of student loan forgiveness.

People don't want to pay for other people's kids frivolous nonsense degrees.

She’s not borrowing $$$. Read the thread.

DP here. My concern wouldn't be the public purse and I am a firm believer in the value of a liberal arts education... but I don't think Gender or Ethnic Studies students get a liberal arts education. They get indoctrinated.

NP. OP didn't ask for your biased opinion. Take your politics elsewhere. Good grief.

The point is that these "studies" are themselves biased, not inquiry.

DP: So studying how gender has been conceptualized and how it has impacted work, health, politics etc. throughout history and across culture is not a meaningful inquiry? [b]

My kid got a Hispanic studies minor--that meant they took all the courses for the minor in Spanish and studied the history, geography, culture, art, politics of the regions. How is that not a liberal arts education?

It mighy be a "meaningful inquiry" but that's all. We are talking about an entire major, four tears if focus and then hurdles into getting that first job. Not a smart choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:my rising senior is trying to decide between (1) women's studies; (2) sociology and (3) undecided or American Studies or Anthropology.

Is there any benefit to any of these majors (as a strategy) at T50 schools?

Female.
top rated non-DMV private HS.
High grades/stats and ECs that relate to women's studies and sociology, along with some national recognition.

Unclear about what her strategy should be.
OP - thoughts or weigh in?

Found this thread. Very helpful.

I have a junior who has some girl mentoring ECs and female focused volunteer efforts. She is thinking about Women's studies and Communications or Women's studies and Sociology.
Which schools did your senior decide on?
Curious about what types of ECs and Awards you have to show major alignment or if that is still needed?

Thanks

[Anonymous]

this thread is CRAAAZY

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:my rising senior is trying to decide between (1) women's studies; (2) sociology and (3) undecided or American Studies or Anthropology.

When she graduates, she can ponder the mystery of the gender wage gap, where women earn 77% of men. It must be the patriarchy.

Ha!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Women studies? I am a woman and I cringe. Please talk some sense into your child. Would we tell our sons to study Man Studies? It's nonsense. I understand a desire to focus on this (Im an executive in business that deals with BS from the patriarchy every day) but getting a degree IN IT is the wrong way. Get a degree in something that can be used to affect change and equality - law, software engineering, medicine, business- find a path where your child can affect change in mgmt., executive or advocacy positions with hard skills. That studies degree is worthless and she will be lucky to get a 40K a year job in DEI at a non-profit. It takes a pretty big trust fund to fund a 18 year old for life- I hope its got 8+ figures in it if she will never have to be self sufficient.

Until recently, that was all biomedical studies, cell, animal and human... right down to, amazingly, the first study to determine whether hormone supplementation would be of benefit to menopausal women. Man Studies also includes virtually all safety studies -- from medicines, to chemicals, to crash test dummies, to stab vests, to PPE. It also includes design and engineering -- the size of phones and toilets, the spacing of keys on pianos, the temperature settings for building. Just to name a few.

That is because men dominated medicine, design and engineering. If you want to change these things, you need to go into those fields, not sit around writing papers whining about how unfair it is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand how Women's Studies majors all got changed to Gender Studies or Gender and Sexuality was added to the name of the major. We still live in a patriarchal male-dominant society where women continue to fight hard to be heard and respected. It seems like it is one more way in which women get devalued or told they have to be more inclusive. Women's Study always included topics of race, gender, and sexuality.

Because women are supposed to be accommodating and kind, so obviously they don't mind being erased in favor of "gender studies," a study that often includes negating their entire gender, having half their members declare themselves no longer women because they find feminine traits unpalatable, and their definitions of womenhood have narrowed so much, and... it's kind of a fascinating car crash that no one is allowed to talk about, because, apparently, it's hateful.

Yowza. You have demonstrated decisively that you have no familiarity with how either of these interdisciplinary areas of study evolved. It's nothing like a "fascinating car crash"--the idea that no one talks or has talked about what they each bring to the table (and fail to) is laughable.

Transphobes are booed at both conferences, though, so you're unlikely to be happy at either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She should go to the cheapest college possible if she's going to major in that. Otherwise she'll be saddled with student debt she'll never be able to pay off.

Amen