Gender/Women’s Studies Major /App Strategy

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do people feel entitled to judge what other people’s kids study in college?


Because of student loan forgiveness.

People don't want to pay for other people's kids frivolous nonsense degrees.


She’s not borrowing $$$. Read the thread.


DP here. My concern wouldn't be the public purse and I am a firm believer in the value of a liberal arts education... but I don't think Gender or Ethnic Studies students get a liberal arts education. They get indoctrinated.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do people feel entitled to judge what other people’s kids study in college?


Because of student loan forgiveness.

People don't want to pay for other people's kids frivolous nonsense degrees.


She’s not borrowing $$$. Read the thread.


DP here. My concern wouldn't be the public purse and I am a firm believer in the value of a liberal arts education... but I don't think Gender or Ethnic Studies students get a liberal arts education. They get indoctrinated.


NP. OP didn't ask for your biased opinion. Take your politics elsewhere. Good grief.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Women studies? I am a woman and I cringe. Please talk some sense into your child. Would we tell our sons to study Man Studies? It's nonsense. I understand a desire to focus on this (Im an executive in business that deals with BS from the patriarchy every day) but getting a degree IN IT is the wrong way. Get a degree in something that can be used to affect change and equality - law, software engineering, medicine, business- find a path where your child can affect change in mgmt., executive or advocacy positions with hard skills. That studies degree is worthless and she will be lucky to get a 40K a year job in DEI at a non-profit. It takes a pretty big trust fund to fund a 18 year old for life- I hope its got 8+ figures in it if she will never have to be self sufficient.


Until recently, that was all biomedical studies, cell, animal and human... right down to, amazingly, the first study to determine whether hormone supplementation would be of benefit to menopausal women. Man Studies also includes virtually all safety studies -- from medicines, to chemicals, to crash test dummies, to stab vests, to PPE. It also includes design and engineering -- the size of phones and toilets, the spacing of keys on pianos, the temperature settings for building. Just to name a few.


Have you sat on a toilet ever? Most are designed for a 5'0" - 5'7" tall person, which is disproportionately adult female sized.


No, I’ve never sat on a toilet. I must not know what I’m talking about. All above points are invalidated.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:She should go to the cheapest college possible if she's going to major in that. Otherwise she'll be saddled with student debt she'll never be able to pay off.


Full pay…trust from grandparents will fund all education for life. Thanks tho


Still, pick the cheapest school because she will need her trust to support her paltry income for the rest of her life and make sure she has something left for elder care.


Oh FFS! No one said that it's going to be her only degree or her terminal degree. My niece was a Women's Studies major, but wanted to go into medicine, to become an OB/Gyn. She is doing her residency (also picked up a MS from Harvard before starting it), but post Roe, has changed her specialty.


I don't think I'd feel comfortable going to a super woke doctor.


I don't think many women would feel comfortable going to an OBGYN whose background is a womans studies degree.


Well, obviously I wouldn’t want someone without a medical degree to treat me. But if my board-certified MD-degree-wielding OB-GYN had a women’s study degree at the undergraduate level I would be reassured. Understanding the extent to which women’s very basic health needs and concerns have been ignored, minimized, and dismissed in research, training, and practice is actually essential to providing even a minimal standard of care for women patients at multiple stages of life.
Anonymous
Sorry, OP, this thread devolved so much. She should look at Wellesley for sure. Very rigorous academics and this major is not only accepted there but is held up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do people feel entitled to judge what other people’s kids study in college?


Because of student loan forgiveness.

People don't want to pay for other people's kids frivolous nonsense degrees.


She’s not borrowing $$$. Read the thread.


DP here. My concern wouldn't be the public purse and I am a firm believer in the value of a liberal arts education... but I don't think Gender or Ethnic Studies students get a liberal arts education. They get indoctrinated.


NP. OP didn't ask for your biased opinion. Take your politics elsewhere. Good grief.



The point is that these "studies" are themselves biased, not inquiry.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do people feel entitled to judge what other people’s kids study in college?


Because of student loan forgiveness.

People don't want to pay for other people's kids frivolous nonsense degrees.


She’s not borrowing $$$. Read the thread.


DP here. My concern wouldn't be the public purse and I am a firm believer in the value of a liberal arts education... but I don't think Gender or Ethnic Studies students get a liberal arts education. They get indoctrinated.


NP. OP didn't ask for your biased opinion. Take your politics elsewhere. Good grief.



The point is that these "studies" are themselves biased, not inquiry.


DP: So studying how gender has been conceptualized and how it has impacted work, health, politics etc. throughout history and across culture is not a meaningful inquiry?

My kid got a Hispanic studies minor--that meant they took all the courses for the minor in Spanish and studied the history, geography, culture, art, politics of the regions. How is that not a liberal arts education?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do people feel entitled to judge what other people’s kids study in college?


Because of student loan forgiveness.

People don't want to pay for other people's kids frivolous nonsense degrees.


She’s not borrowing $$$. Read the thread.


DP here. My concern wouldn't be the public purse and I am a firm believer in the value of a liberal arts education... but I don't think Gender or Ethnic Studies students get a liberal arts education. They get indoctrinated.


NP. OP didn't ask for your biased opinion. Take your politics elsewhere. Good grief.



The point is that these "studies" are themselves biased, not inquiry.


There are two kinds of inquiry, White Men and Biased
Anonymous
I know a very impressive woman who makes $450k as a CEO in the nonprofit sector who has a women’s studies undergrad. People need to relax and stop judging others.
Anonymous
Looking for pre-college summer programs in this field.

Please post any suggestions!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand how Women's Studies majors all got changed to Gender Studies or Gender and Sexuality was added to the name of the major. We still live in a patriarchal male-dominant society where women continue to fight hard to be heard and respected. It seems like it is one more way in which women get devalued or told they have to be more inclusive. Women's Study always included topics of race, gender, and sexuality.


Because women are supposed to be accommodating and kind, so obviously they don't mind being erased in favor of "gender studies," a study that often includes negating their entire gender, having half their members declare themselves no longer women because they find feminine traits unpalatable, and their definitions of womenhood have narrowed so much, and... it's kind of a fascinating car crash that no one is allowed to talk about, because, apparently, it's hateful.
Anonymous
I took a lot of women's lit classes in college, in part because I enjoyed reading novels written by women more as they tended not to have long, omniscient narrator sections musing about war, or the sea, or whales.

As far as I could tell, women's studies didn't used to be a list of grievances, or reductive arguments about patriarchy and how terrible "the binary" was. It was more like archaeology: digging through the past to find representation, creating a new canon from female authored and female centered works. I really enjoyed that aspect.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do people feel entitled to judge what other people’s kids study in college?


Because of student loan forgiveness.

People don't want to pay for other people's kids frivolous nonsense degrees.


She’s not borrowing $$$. Read the thread.


DP here. My concern wouldn't be the public purse and I am a firm believer in the value of a liberal arts education... but I don't think Gender or Ethnic Studies students get a liberal arts education. They get indoctrinated.


NP. OP didn't ask for your biased opinion. Take your politics elsewhere. Good grief.



The point is that these "studies" are themselves biased, not inquiry.


Pray tell what are they “indoctrinated” in?

Do you even know what that word means?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand how Women's Studies majors all got changed to Gender Studies or Gender and Sexuality was added to the name of the major. We still live in a patriarchal male-dominant society where women continue to fight hard to be heard and respected. It seems like it is one more way in which women get devalued or told they have to be more inclusive. Women's Study always included topics of race, gender, and sexuality.


Because women are supposed to be accommodating and kind, so obviously they don't mind being erased in favor of "gender studies," a study that often includes negating their entire gender, having half their members declare themselves no longer women because they find feminine traits unpalatable, and their definitions of womenhood have narrowed so much, and... it's kind of a fascinating car crash that no one is allowed to talk about, because, apparently, it's hateful.


The hell are you prattling on about, you histrionic ninny?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She should go to the cheapest college possible if she's going to major in that. Otherwise she'll be saddled with student debt she'll never be able to pay off.


Full pay…trust from grandparents will fund all education for life. Thanks tho


Still, pick the cheapest school because she will need her trust to support her paltry income for the rest of her life and make sure she has something left for elder care.


Oh FFS! No one said that it's going to be her only degree or her terminal degree. My niece was a Women's Studies major, but wanted to go into medicine, to become an OB/Gyn. She is doing her residency (also picked up a MS from Harvard before starting it), but post Roe, has changed her specialty.


I don't think I'd feel comfortable going to a super woke doctor.


How do you think you'd even know?

Her primary goal is to serve underserved populations (urban, rural, reservations), so chances are high you'll never see her anyway.


from the outside my parent wouldn't seem "woke' but they were a long serving OB/GYN and were for drug legalization, universal healthcare NHS in 70's style, served unmarried teens and was super supportive of them, refugees from all over for free etc etc while having a swanky office and associate of Georgetown and advocated for abortion when there were any anomalies including Downs. But you'd never know that about this gentle brown foreigner had these opinions in the 1980s! their comment to our DARE program was that drugs should be decriminalized so how would you know???
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