Virtual Academy students lagging behind in person

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Maybe mcps can use the money they save in the cost difference to pay for tutoring.

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Anonymous wrote:Here it is again...parents in this county are so behind the times. Most districts across the country have offered virtual options since the early aughts. The fact MCPS only did in 2020 because of the pandemic is embarrassing. It's time to join the rest of the country in the 21st century without complaining because remote instruction didn't work for your kid during the pandemic. It's so absurd.

Just curious- how many of the virtual programs "across the country" are actually offered at the district level? Particularly in pre-pandemic times. Quite often the virtual programs are administered at the state level, which makes sense to me. So this is partly on the state of MD.

DP-I would first say, do your own research before asking others to do it for you. But all of my teaching friends from my program are in various states and it is offered at the district level. So, no. It's not on the state of Maryland at all. It could be implemented district wide as its done in MANY other places. MoCo has a unique set of parents that simply refuse to hear any other alternatives other than "in-person". It is sad because instead of using the money and time to refine a district wide program, people just want to shut it down because of the pandemic. All of the parents who continue to post this article on social media are the same exact parents who were at every single board meeting complaining about virtual. Doesn't take a genius to figure out their agenda. It is quite sad and pathetic.

Lady, well before the pandemic there was research showing that virtual doesn’t even work for college students. Anyone with a single brain cell knows it’s a disaster for children, and yes, we know this because of the pandemic There is an extremely narrow case for it as a stop-gap for sick kids and SN kids who truly cannot be accomodated at their current placement, but it is not a long-term solution.

My kids did great in virtual. I think the problem is mostly with parents who left young children unsupervised and expected better results. The problem isn't virtual but lazy parents.

How dare those parents work to feed their families! Who needs housing anyway?

Those kids shouldn’t be left unsupervised at home to fend for themselves.

Oh I agree. They should have been in school.

They ARE in school. Its sad you simply don't get it and are trying to justify your hate for options for families because you want free child care and think everyone else needs it.

They are chronically absent, not in school.

Kids who are chronically absent would be in either style school and often the kids are marked absent when they are not. We’ve had it happen many times and sometimes don’t bother to correct it

At least in secondary school, there are many reasons why a student might be marked absent part of the day although they entered the school building on time and didn’t leave until dismissal. Skipping is one. The other is going to the counselor. I have a student who has attended my class ten times this entire year. He attends AM classes and lunch, then hangs out in a counselor’s office the rest of the day. Those of us who teach him in the afternoon mark him absent to document that he isn’t receiving instruction. This isn’t the type of kid that DCUM believes is an attendance problem. He’s white, UMC, from an intact family. Maybe the Virtual Academy would be perfect for him.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else see this?

https://moderatelymoco.com/exclusive-mpia-results-mcps-virtual-academy-under-the-microscope-with-a-disappointing-report-card/?amp=1

Not surprising at all. I wonder if the program will continue?

Obviously this is selection bias.

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Anonymous wrote:They are regurgitating what "Dr." Reesman posted attacking the school. Her data on enrollment isn't accurate and the data she is using is expected projected growth but its common kids go up and down or stay stagnant and that's not always a true measure.

Why the scare quotes?

Does she not have a doctorate in the field you are discussing?

DP but no? She doesn't..her PhD is in neuropsych. That doesnt make her an expert in the field being discussed. She clearly loves to pretend it does though. Anyone who unironically calls themself "Wonder Woman" is questionable to begin with.

So, we’re also going to dismiss other neuropsych PhDs who comment on education, right?

Most neuropsych PhD's aren't obsessive about virtual schools. It's her personal mission because she's still angry about the pandemic. Try and keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:They are regurgitating what "Dr." Reesman posted attacking the school. Her data on enrollment isn't accurate and the data she is using is expected projected growth but its common kids go up and down or stay stagnant and that's not always a true measure.

Why the scare quotes?

Does she not have a doctorate in the field you are discussing?

DP but no? She doesn't..her PhD is in neuropsych. That doesnt make her an expert in the field being discussed. She clearly loves to pretend it does though. Anyone who unironically calls themself "Wonder Woman" is questionable to begin with.

So, we’re also going to dismiss other neuropsych PhDs who comment on education, right?

Yes, she has no experience with this school and is bashing and attacking it for no reason. It has zero impact on her or her kids. She should put as much effort into her kids she does her posts.

No reason? You can argue about the value of VA, but when you look at MCPS's data you can't claim there's no reason to be concerned about VA.

You're so ridiculous. Look at regular school's data-many in-person schools are failing right now. Should we shut them down too? There are a ton of MCPS schools with report cards worse than the virtual academy, so if your solution is to shut it down if it isn't working, we should be closing a ton of schools right now.

Sounds absurd right? So do you.

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Anonymous wrote:They are regurgitating what "Dr." Reesman posted attacking the school. Her data on enrollment isn't accurate and the data she is using is expected projected growth but its common kids go up and down or stay stagnant and that's not always a true measure.

Why the scare quotes?

Does she not have a doctorate in the field you are discussing?

DP but no? She doesn't..her PhD is in neuropsych. That doesnt make her an expert in the field being discussed. She clearly loves to pretend it does though. Anyone who unironically calls themself "Wonder Woman" is questionable to begin with.

So, we’re also going to dismiss other neuropsych PhDs who comment on education, right?

Most neuropsych PhD's aren't obsessive about virtual schools. It's her personal mission because she's still angry about the pandemic. Try and keep up.

Question: Does this individual run the Virtual Academy or work for it? If so, wouldn’t we as a society want its success to be her personal mission? If she’s truly some rando inserting herself, that’s different.

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Anonymous wrote:They are regurgitating what "Dr." Reesman posted attacking the school. Her data on enrollment isn't accurate and the data she is using is expected projected growth but its common kids go up and down or stay stagnant and that's not always a true measure.

Why the scare quotes?

Does she not have a doctorate in the field you are discussing?

DP but no? She doesn't..her PhD is in neuropsych. That doesnt make her an expert in the field being discussed. She clearly loves to pretend it does though. Anyone who unironically calls themself "Wonder Woman" is questionable to begin with.

But I bet you're all too happy to call Monifa "Dr. McKnight" aren't you?

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Anonymous wrote:They are regurgitating what "Dr." Reesman posted attacking the school. Her data on enrollment isn't accurate and the data she is using is expected projected growth but its common kids go up and down or stay stagnant and that's not always a true measure.

Why the scare quotes?

Does she not have a doctorate in the field you are discussing?

DP but no? She doesn't..her PhD is in neuropsych. That doesnt make her an expert in the field being discussed. She clearly loves to pretend it does though. Anyone who unironically calls themself "Wonder Woman" is questionable to begin with.

So, we’re also going to dismiss other neuropsych PhDs who comment on education, right?

Most neuropsych PhD's aren't obsessive about virtual schools. It's her personal mission because she's still angry about the pandemic. Try and keep up.

Question: Does this individual run the Virtual Academy or work for it? If so, wouldn’t we as a society want its success to be her personal mission? If she’s truly some rando inserting herself, that’s different.

She has nothing to do with it. She is an angry parent. She doesn't work for MCPS in any capacity.

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Anonymous wrote:They are regurgitating what "Dr." Reesman posted attacking the school. Her data on enrollment isn't accurate and the data she is using is expected projected growth but its common kids go up and down or stay stagnant and that's not always a true measure.

Why the scare quotes?

Does she not have a doctorate in the field you are discussing?

DP but no? She doesn't..her PhD is in neuropsych. That doesnt make her an expert in the field being discussed. She clearly loves to pretend it does though. Anyone who unironically calls themself "Wonder Woman" is questionable to begin with.

But I bet you're all too happy to call Monifa "Dr. McKnight" aren't you?

lol..not at all...I love that you thought you really did something with this comment though. You tried!

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Anonymous wrote:Why in the world would MCPS hide the enrollment data when the number is less than 10? That sort of thing is usually done for privacy reasons, but in this case it doesn't seem to have a useful purpose other than to obfuscate the data.

For privacy reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:They are regurgitating what "Dr." Reesman posted attacking the school. Her data on enrollment isn't accurate and the data she is using is expected projected growth but its common kids go up and down or stay stagnant and that's not always a true measure.

Why the scare quotes?

Does she not have a doctorate in the field you are discussing?

DP but no? She doesn't..her PhD is in neuropsych. That doesnt make her an expert in the field being discussed. She clearly loves to pretend it does though. Anyone who unironically calls themself "Wonder Woman" is questionable to begin with.

If she were a Wonder Woman she could have made virtual work for her kids.

😂🤣. You have a point here! It’s so bizarre someone uses their free time for this “analysis” to go after a small program that is clearly beneficial to some families.

More bizzarre when it's nothing like covid virtual school and she has zero experience with it.

Although I haven't used VA, I thought the same thing. It serves a purpose and helps many. These RWNJ have an axe to grind with virtual.

RWNJs prefer home schooling where there's zero accountability. One of their favorite foils, the WaPost, recently did a comprehensive exposé on them and child abuse.

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Anonymous wrote:They are regurgitating what "Dr." Reesman posted attacking the school. Her data on enrollment isn't accurate and the data she is using is expected projected growth but its common kids go up and down or stay stagnant and that's not always a true measure.

Why the scare quotes?

Does she not have a doctorate in the field you are discussing?

DP but no? She doesn't..her PhD is in neuropsych. That doesnt make her an expert in the field being discussed. She clearly loves to pretend it does though. Anyone who unironically calls themself "Wonder Woman" is questionable to begin with.

So, we’re also going to dismiss other neuropsych PhDs who comment on education, right?

Yes, she has no experience with this school and is bashing and attacking it for no reason. It has zero impact on her or her kids. She should put as much effort into her kids she does her posts.

No reason? You can argue about the value of VA, but when you look at MCPS's data you can't claim there's no reason to be concerned about VA.

You're so ridiculous. Look at regular school's data-many in-person schools are failing right now. Should we shut them down too? There are a ton of MCPS schools with report cards worse than the virtual academy, so if your solution is to shut it down if it isn't working, we should be closing a ton of schools right now.

Sounds absurd right? So do you.

No, but we shouldn't be blindly perpetuating the schools that are failing. We should be learning from the schools that are succeeding. The data, at least at the primary level, indicates that in-person is more effective.

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Anonymous wrote:Why in the world would MCPS hide the enrollment data when the number is less than 10? That sort of thing is usually done for privacy reasons, but in this case it doesn't seem to have a useful purpose other than to obfuscate the data.

For privacy reasons.

What possible privacy leak would there be from reporting small numbers from home schools? It's not going to leak any more privacy-sensitive information.

They would just need to redact the cumulative number if, across all schools, it was still under 10.

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That being said, the per-home-school numbers aren't particularly meaningful anyway. The cumulative numbers tell the story. VA is too small on its own and should be combined at the state level.

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Anonymous wrote:They are regurgitating what "Dr." Reesman posted attacking the school. Her data on enrollment isn't accurate and the data she is using is expected projected growth but its common kids go up and down or stay stagnant and that's not always a true measure.

Why the scare quotes?

Does she not have a doctorate in the field you are discussing?

DP but no? She doesn't..her PhD is in neuropsych. That doesnt make her an expert in the field being discussed. She clearly loves to pretend it does though. Anyone who unironically calls themself "Wonder Woman" is questionable to begin with.

But I bet you're all too happy to call Monifa "Dr. McKnight" aren't you?

lol..not at all...I love that you thought you really did something with this comment though. You tried!

OK, maybe YOU don't. But most wokes will call her Dr. just to show that they are allies.