Yup— major boundary changes incoming.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will happen on boundaries. It was all Dem the last four years and nothing happened. There is no incentive for them to do anything on boundaries. They will just spend more money expanding the preferred schools.

The board doesn't give a squat about citizen input.

That comment make no sense in this context. Fairfax County citizens hate redistricting.

This is true ^^. The only people who constantly obsess and gnash their teeth about redistricting are DCUM's finest - the ones who insist we must racially and economically balance the schools, regardless of geography. Or maybe, in spite of geography.
DP

So the citizens of this county, overwhelmingly liberal, want nothing to do with their kids going to school with the "undesirables". Limousine Liberals is how that is defined.

I’m a liberal, and there is zero cognitive dissonance for me. People on this board often seem to advocate for redistricting in order to soak the rich, not considering how disruptive redistricting would be to everyone involved. I get that people are committed to equity, but to be laser-focused on it at the expense of all else puts you in the extreme wing of the party, and creates many more problems than it solves.

And sometimes I wonder if the people advocating for it own real estate in an area of the country that they think would benefit from redistricting.

The people advocating for it want every school to feel like what one would expect from a Fairfax County school. It's a little absurd that many schools are far closer to resembling a poverty-stricken rural Texas town than a real representation of Fairfax County.

The people against it are the ones who feel that way primarily for real estate reasons. Just read the public comments from the last consultant boundary survey. E.g., "please don't change boundaries because our property value will go down."

I’m all for good public schools, I just don’t believe that an equity-based redistricting is going to be the panacea that you seem to think it will be.

I’m not sure if you own your house, but a home is often a large portion of people’s net worth, and I think it is valid to worry about the value of one’s home. And the two aren’t mutually exclusive - homeowners in good school districts can prefer to stay in those school districts, and homeowners in other districts can desire a redistricting that can result in a home value increase.

We are talking about a SINGLE district — FCPS.

One planet If you really get down to it, right? It’s a bit misleading to pretend that there isn’t variability in a district this big. There are several school districts within your SINGLE district.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will happen on boundaries. It was all Dem the last four years and nothing happened. There is no incentive for them to do anything on boundaries. They will just spend more money expanding the preferred schools.

The board doesn't give a squat about citizen input.

That comment make no sense in this context. Fairfax County citizens hate redistricting.

This is true ^^. The only people who constantly obsess and gnash their teeth about redistricting are DCUM's finest - the ones who insist we must racially and economically balance the schools, regardless of geography. Or maybe, in spite of geography.
DP

So the citizens of this county, overwhelmingly liberal, want nothing to do with their kids going to school with the "undesirables". Limousine Liberals is how that is defined.

I’m a liberal, and there is zero cognitive dissonance for me. People on this board often seem to advocate for redistricting in order to soak the rich, not considering how disruptive redistricting would be to everyone involved. I get that people are committed to equity, but to be laser-focused on it at the expense of all else puts you in the extreme wing of the party, and creates many more problems than it solves.

And sometimes I wonder if the people advocating for it own real estate in an area of the country that they think would benefit from redistricting.

The people advocating for it want every school to feel like what one would expect from a Fairfax County school. It's a little absurd that many schools are far closer to resembling a poverty-stricken rural Texas town than a real representation of Fairfax County.

The people against it are the ones who feel that way primarily for real estate reasons. Just read the public comments from the last consultant boundary survey. E.g., "please don't change boundaries because our property value will go down."

I’m all for good public schools, I just don’t believe that an equity-based redistricting is going to be the panacea that you seem to think it will be.

I’m not sure if you own your house, but a home is often a large portion of people’s net worth, and I think it is valid to worry about the value of one’s home. And the two aren’t mutually exclusive - homeowners in good school districts can prefer to stay in those school districts, and homeowners in other districts can desire a redistricting that can result in a home value increase.

We are talking about a SINGLE district — FCPS.

One planet If you really get down to it, right? It’s a bit misleading to pretend that there isn’t variability in a district this big. There are several school districts within your SINGLE district.

No, that’s not true.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will happen on boundaries. It was all Dem the last four years and nothing happened. There is no incentive for them to do anything on boundaries. They will just spend more money expanding the preferred schools.

The board doesn't give a squat about citizen input.

That comment make no sense in this context. Fairfax County citizens hate redistricting.

This is true ^^. The only people who constantly obsess and gnash their teeth about redistricting are DCUM's finest - the ones who insist we must racially and economically balance the schools, regardless of geography. Or maybe, in spite of geography.
DP

So the citizens of this county, overwhelmingly liberal, want nothing to do with their kids going to school with the "undesirables". Limousine Liberals is how that is defined.

I’m a liberal, and there is zero cognitive dissonance for me. People on this board often seem to advocate for redistricting in order to soak the rich, not considering how disruptive redistricting would be to everyone involved. I get that people are committed to equity, but to be laser-focused on it at the expense of all else puts you in the extreme wing of the party, and creates many more problems than it solves.

And sometimes I wonder if the people advocating for it own real estate in an area of the country that they think would benefit from redistricting.

The people advocating for it want every school to feel like what one would expect from a Fairfax County school. It's a little absurd that many schools are far closer to resembling a poverty-stricken rural Texas town than a real representation of Fairfax County.

The people against it are the ones who feel that way primarily for real estate reasons. Just read the public comments from the last consultant boundary survey. E.g., "please don't change boundaries because our property value will go down."

The people advocating for it want a subsidy, whereby home equity is redistributed to their own advantage. The comparison of schools in Fairfax to poverty-stricken schools in Texas also misses the mark. Even the highest/poverty schools in FCPS offer a wide array of AP or IB classes, which simply is not the case in many school districts in other parts of the country.

And why do some people claim to love diversity so much, yet then make it their main mission in life to redistribute it away from their own communities and schools?

One could argue that the five pyramids that have 55%+ Hispanic and a similar FARMs percentage are not diverse. They are overly concentrated with poverty to their own detriment.

So you oppose the policies of the politicians you just voted to re-elect that resulted in such a large Hispanic population concentrated in certain parts of the county?

That didn’t take long.

Uhh, no.

In that case, explain why you are grousing because the current conditions in the county and in FCPS have a lot more to do with decisions by Democrats who have controlled the BOS and FCPS for decades than the Langley parents you apparently want to blame for everything.

I don’t care what party endorses board members who are supposed to be apolitical. Personally, I’m not a fan of either party. I object to the entitled people on this site who consider sending their kids to certain schools a fate worse than hell and accuse anyone who sends their kids to certain schools bad parents.

We don’t need to send kids miles and miles from their HS. We need parents and voters who put the working for the success of FCPS over their pyramid. If there is a problem at one pyramid, there is a problem in FCPS.

It might help if you would identify what you think is the “problem,” what you believe is the cause of the problem, and how you propose to solve - and not simply cover up - the problem.

In general, the “success” of FCPS is the aggregation of successes at individual schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will happen on boundaries. It was all Dem the last four years and nothing happened. There is no incentive for them to do anything on boundaries. They will just spend more money expanding the preferred schools.

The board doesn't give a squat about citizen input.

That comment make no sense in this context. Fairfax County citizens hate redistricting.

This is true ^^. The only people who constantly obsess and gnash their teeth about redistricting are DCUM's finest - the ones who insist we must racially and economically balance the schools, regardless of geography. Or maybe, in spite of geography.
DP

So the citizens of this county, overwhelmingly liberal, want nothing to do with their kids going to school with the "undesirables". Limousine Liberals is how that is defined.

I’m a liberal, and there is zero cognitive dissonance for me. People on this board often seem to advocate for redistricting in order to soak the rich, not considering how disruptive redistricting would be to everyone involved. I get that people are committed to equity, but to be laser-focused on it at the expense of all else puts you in the extreme wing of the party, and creates many more problems than it solves.

And sometimes I wonder if the people advocating for it own real estate in an area of the country that they think would benefit from redistricting.

The people advocating for it want every school to feel like what one would expect from a Fairfax County school. It's a little absurd that many schools are far closer to resembling a poverty-stricken rural Texas town than a real representation of Fairfax County.

The people against it are the ones who feel that way primarily for real estate reasons. Just read the public comments from the last consultant boundary survey. E.g., "please don't change boundaries because our property value will go down."

I’m all for good public schools, I just don’t believe that an equity-based redistricting is going to be the panacea that you seem to think it will be.

I’m not sure if you own your house, but a home is often a large portion of people’s net worth, and I think it is valid to worry about the value of one’s home. And the two aren’t mutually exclusive - homeowners in good school districts can prefer to stay in those school districts, and homeowners in other districts can desire a redistricting that can result in a home value increase.

We are talking about a SINGLE district — FCPS.

One planet If you really get down to it, right? It’s a bit misleading to pretend that there isn’t variability in a district this big. There are several school districts within your SINGLE district.

No, that’s not true.

You might want to let FCPS know about your alternate interpretation of their facts: https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/redistricting/adopted-2021-redistricting-map

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Anonymous wrote:This must be the reimagined boundary policy. Mrs Reid favorite line let’s reimagine something blah blah The professional consultant they hired during COVID stated that moving and hiding poverty would be harmful to the children. Each school should evaluated programs that give the children equal opportunities and shift those resources were needed. I wished Fairfax would do what is just and reasonable instead of their reimagined pet projects. GET BACK TO EDUCATION

BUT SHE is reimagining things to get back to education. It only requires some imagination to see how this diverse puzzle fits together and enhances everyone's equity!

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will happen on boundaries. It was all Dem the last four years and nothing happened. There is no incentive for them to do anything on boundaries. They will just spend more money expanding the preferred schools.

The board doesn't give a squat about citizen input.

That comment make no sense in this context. Fairfax County citizens hate redistricting.

This is true ^^. The only people who constantly obsess and gnash their teeth about redistricting are DCUM's finest - the ones who insist we must racially and economically balance the schools, regardless of geography. Or maybe, in spite of geography.
DP

So the citizens of this county, overwhelmingly liberal, want nothing to do with their kids going to school with the "undesirables". Limousine Liberals is how that is defined.

I’m a liberal, and there is zero cognitive dissonance for me. People on this board often seem to advocate for redistricting in order to soak the rich, not considering how disruptive redistricting would be to everyone involved. I get that people are committed to equity, but to be laser-focused on it at the expense of all else puts you in the extreme wing of the party, and creates many more problems than it solves.

And sometimes I wonder if the people advocating for it own real estate in an area of the country that they think would benefit from redistricting.

The people advocating for it want every school to feel like what one would expect from a Fairfax County school. It's a little absurd that many schools are far closer to resembling a poverty-stricken rural Texas town than a real representation of Fairfax County.

The people against it are the ones who feel that way primarily for real estate reasons. Just read the public comments from the last consultant boundary survey. E.g., "please don't change boundaries because our property value will go down."

I’m all for good public schools, I just don’t believe that an equity-based redistricting is going to be the panacea that you seem to think it will be.

I’m not sure if you own your house, but a home is often a large portion of people’s net worth, and I think it is valid to worry about the value of one’s home. And the two aren’t mutually exclusive - homeowners in good school districts can prefer to stay in those school districts, and homeowners in other districts can desire a redistricting that can result in a home value increase.

We are talking about a SINGLE district — FCPS.

One planet If you really get down to it, right? It’s a bit misleading to pretend that there isn’t variability in a district this big. There are several school districts within your SINGLE district.

No, that’s not true.

You might want to let FCPS know about your alternate interpretation of their facts: https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/redistricting/adopted-2021-redistricting-map

DP, but this does not prove what you seem to think it does. Magisterial districts are not school districts. There are School Board members for each magisterial district, but the schools themselves aren’t administered at the magisterial district level.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will happen on boundaries. It was all Dem the last four years and nothing happened. There is no incentive for them to do anything on boundaries. They will just spend more money expanding the preferred schools.

The board doesn't give a squat about citizen input.

That comment make no sense in this context. Fairfax County citizens hate redistricting.

This is true ^^. The only people who constantly obsess and gnash their teeth about redistricting are DCUM's finest - the ones who insist we must racially and economically balance the schools, regardless of geography. Or maybe, in spite of geography.
DP

So the citizens of this county, overwhelmingly liberal, want nothing to do with their kids going to school with the "undesirables". Limousine Liberals is how that is defined.

I’m a liberal, and there is zero cognitive dissonance for me. People on this board often seem to advocate for redistricting in order to soak the rich, not considering how disruptive redistricting would be to everyone involved. I get that people are committed to equity, but to be laser-focused on it at the expense of all else puts you in the extreme wing of the party, and creates many more problems than it solves.

And sometimes I wonder if the people advocating for it own real estate in an area of the country that they think would benefit from redistricting.

The people advocating for it want every school to feel like what one would expect from a Fairfax County school. It's a little absurd that many schools are far closer to resembling a poverty-stricken rural Texas town than a real representation of Fairfax County.

The people against it are the ones who feel that way primarily for real estate reasons. Just read the public comments from the last consultant boundary survey. E.g., "please don't change boundaries because our property value will go down."

I’m all for good public schools, I just don’t believe that an equity-based redistricting is going to be the panacea that you seem to think it will be.

I’m not sure if you own your house, but a home is often a large portion of people’s net worth, and I think it is valid to worry about the value of one’s home. And the two aren’t mutually exclusive - homeowners in good school districts can prefer to stay in those school districts, and homeowners in other districts can desire a redistricting that can result in a home value increase.

We are talking about a SINGLE district — FCPS.

One planet If you really get down to it, right? It’s a bit misleading to pretend that there isn’t variability in a district this big. There are several school districts within your SINGLE district.

No, that’s not true.

You might want to let FCPS know about your alternate interpretation of their facts: https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/redistricting/adopted-2021-redistricting-map

DP, but this does not prove what you seem to think it does. Magisterial districts are not school districts. There are School Board members for each magisterial district, but the schools themselves aren’t administered at the magisterial district level.

You live in a really fun semantic universe.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will happen on boundaries. It was all Dem the last four years and nothing happened. There is no incentive for them to do anything on boundaries. They will just spend more money expanding the preferred schools.

The board doesn't give a squat about citizen input.

That comment make no sense in this context. Fairfax County citizens hate redistricting.

This is true ^^. The only people who constantly obsess and gnash their teeth about redistricting are DCUM's finest - the ones who insist we must racially and economically balance the schools, regardless of geography. Or maybe, in spite of geography.
DP

So the citizens of this county, overwhelmingly liberal, want nothing to do with their kids going to school with the "undesirables". Limousine Liberals is how that is defined.

I’m a liberal, and there is zero cognitive dissonance for me. People on this board often seem to advocate for redistricting in order to soak the rich, not considering how disruptive redistricting would be to everyone involved. I get that people are committed to equity, but to be laser-focused on it at the expense of all else puts you in the extreme wing of the party, and creates many more problems than it solves.

And sometimes I wonder if the people advocating for it own real estate in an area of the country that they think would benefit from redistricting.

The people advocating for it want every school to feel like what one would expect from a Fairfax County school. It's a little absurd that many schools are far closer to resembling a poverty-stricken rural Texas town than a real representation of Fairfax County.

The people against it are the ones who feel that way primarily for real estate reasons. Just read the public comments from the last consultant boundary survey. E.g., "please don't change boundaries because our property value will go down."

I’m all for good public schools, I just don’t believe that an equity-based redistricting is going to be the panacea that you seem to think it will be.

I’m not sure if you own your house, but a home is often a large portion of people’s net worth, and I think it is valid to worry about the value of one’s home. And the two aren’t mutually exclusive - homeowners in good school districts can prefer to stay in those school districts, and homeowners in other districts can desire a redistricting that can result in a home value increase.

We are talking about a SINGLE district — FCPS.

NP, you're right, but I think the PP's point holds if you just subsititue "pyramids" for "districts".

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will happen on boundaries. It was all Dem the last four years and nothing happened. There is no incentive for them to do anything on boundaries. They will just spend more money expanding the preferred schools.

The board doesn't give a squat about citizen input.

That comment make no sense in this context. Fairfax County citizens hate redistricting.

This is true ^^. The only people who constantly obsess and gnash their teeth about redistricting are DCUM's finest - the ones who insist we must racially and economically balance the schools, regardless of geography. Or maybe, in spite of geography.
DP

So the citizens of this county, overwhelmingly liberal, want nothing to do with their kids going to school with the "undesirables". Limousine Liberals is how that is defined.

I’m a liberal, and there is zero cognitive dissonance for me. People on this board often seem to advocate for redistricting in order to soak the rich, not considering how disruptive redistricting would be to everyone involved. I get that people are committed to equity, but to be laser-focused on it at the expense of all else puts you in the extreme wing of the party, and creates many more problems than it solves.

And sometimes I wonder if the people advocating for it own real estate in an area of the country that they think would benefit from redistricting.

The people advocating for it want every school to feel like what one would expect from a Fairfax County school. It's a little absurd that many schools are far closer to resembling a poverty-stricken rural Texas town than a real representation of Fairfax County.

The people against it are the ones who feel that way primarily for real estate reasons. Just read the public comments from the last consultant boundary survey. E.g., "please don't change boundaries because our property value will go down."

I’m all for good public schools, I just don’t believe that an equity-based redistricting is going to be the panacea that you seem to think it will be.

I’m not sure if you own your house, but a home is often a large portion of people’s net worth, and I think it is valid to worry about the value of one’s home. And the two aren’t mutually exclusive - homeowners in good school districts can prefer to stay in those school districts, and homeowners in other districts can desire a redistricting that can result in a home value increase.

We are talking about a SINGLE district — FCPS.

One planet If you really get down to it, right? It’s a bit misleading to pretend that there isn’t variability in a district this big. There are several school districts within your SINGLE district.

No, that’s not true.

You might want to let FCPS know about your alternate interpretation of their facts: https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/redistricting/adopted-2021-redistricting-map

DP, but this does not prove what you seem to think it does. Magisterial districts are not school districts. There are School Board members for each magisterial district, but the schools themselves aren’t administered at the magisterial district level.

NP... magesterial districts also don't 1:1 map to regions, and regions are how schools are actually managed at the sub-district level.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will happen on boundaries. It was all Dem the last four years and nothing happened. There is no incentive for them to do anything on boundaries. They will just spend more money expanding the preferred schools.

The board doesn't give a squat about citizen input.

That comment make no sense in this context. Fairfax County citizens hate redistricting.

This is true ^^. The only people who constantly obsess and gnash their teeth about redistricting are DCUM's finest - the ones who insist we must racially and economically balance the schools, regardless of geography. Or maybe, in spite of geography.
DP

So the citizens of this county, overwhelmingly liberal, want nothing to do with their kids going to school with the "undesirables". Limousine Liberals is how that is defined.

I’m a liberal, and there is zero cognitive dissonance for me. People on this board often seem to advocate for redistricting in order to soak the rich, not considering how disruptive redistricting would be to everyone involved. I get that people are committed to equity, but to be laser-focused on it at the expense of all else puts you in the extreme wing of the party, and creates many more problems than it solves.

And sometimes I wonder if the people advocating for it own real estate in an area of the country that they think would benefit from redistricting.

The people advocating for it want every school to feel like what one would expect from a Fairfax County school. It's a little absurd that many schools are far closer to resembling a poverty-stricken rural Texas town than a real representation of Fairfax County.

The people against it are the ones who feel that way primarily for real estate reasons. Just read the public comments from the last consultant boundary survey. E.g., "please don't change boundaries because our property value will go down."

I’m all for good public schools, I just don’t believe that an equity-based redistricting is going to be the panacea that you seem to think it will be.

I’m not sure if you own your house, but a home is often a large portion of people’s net worth, and I think it is valid to worry about the value of one’s home. And the two aren’t mutually exclusive - homeowners in good school districts can prefer to stay in those school districts, and homeowners in other districts can desire a redistricting that can result in a home value increase.

We are talking about a SINGLE district — FCPS.

One planet If you really get down to it, right? It’s a bit misleading to pretend that there isn’t variability in a district this big. There are several school districts within your SINGLE district.

No, that’s not true.

You might want to let FCPS know about your alternate interpretation of their facts: https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/redistricting/adopted-2021-redistricting-map

DP, but this does not prove what you seem to think it does. Magisterial districts are not school districts. There are School Board members for each magisterial district, but the schools themselves aren’t administered at the magisterial district level.

You live in a really fun semantic universe.

I have no idea what point you think you are making. That FCPS is a big district with a lot of different pyramids, and that the characteristics of those pyramids vary a lot?

OK. I don’t think anyone disputes that. However, every pyramid offers a lot to kids, and trying to make every pyramid the same is a self-defeating, if not impossible, endeavor.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will happen on boundaries. It was all Dem the last four years and nothing happened. There is no incentive for them to do anything on boundaries. They will just spend more money expanding the preferred schools.

The board doesn't give a squat about citizen input.

That comment make no sense in this context. Fairfax County citizens hate redistricting.

This is true ^^. The only people who constantly obsess and gnash their teeth about redistricting are DCUM's finest - the ones who insist we must racially and economically balance the schools, regardless of geography. Or maybe, in spite of geography.
DP

So the citizens of this county, overwhelmingly liberal, want nothing to do with their kids going to school with the "undesirables". Limousine Liberals is how that is defined.

I’m a liberal, and there is zero cognitive dissonance for me. People on this board often seem to advocate for redistricting in order to soak the rich, not considering how disruptive redistricting would be to everyone involved. I get that people are committed to equity, but to be laser-focused on it at the expense of all else puts you in the extreme wing of the party, and creates many more problems than it solves.

And sometimes I wonder if the people advocating for it own real estate in an area of the country that they think would benefit from redistricting.

The people advocating for it want every school to feel like what one would expect from a Fairfax County school. It's a little absurd that many schools are far closer to resembling a poverty-stricken rural Texas town than a real representation of Fairfax County.

The people against it are the ones who feel that way primarily for real estate reasons. Just read the public comments from the last consultant boundary survey. E.g., "please don't change boundaries because our property value will go down."

I’m all for good public schools, I just don’t believe that an equity-based redistricting is going to be the panacea that you seem to think it will be.

I’m not sure if you own your house, but a home is often a large portion of people’s net worth, and I think it is valid to worry about the value of one’s home. And the two aren’t mutually exclusive - homeowners in good school districts can prefer to stay in those school districts, and homeowners in other districts can desire a redistricting that can result in a home value increase.

We are talking about a SINGLE district — FCPS.

One planet If you really get down to it, right? It’s a bit misleading to pretend that there isn’t variability in a district this big. There are several school districts within your SINGLE district.

No, that’s not true.

You might want to let FCPS know about your alternate interpretation of their facts: https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/redistricting/adopted-2021-redistricting-map

DP, but this does not prove what you seem to think it does. Magisterial districts are not school districts. There are School Board members for each magisterial district, but the schools themselves aren’t administered at the magisterial district level.

You live in a really fun semantic universe.

I have no idea what point you think you are making. That FCPS is a big district with a lot of different pyramids, and that the characteristics of those pyramids vary a lot?

OK. I don’t think anyone disputes that. However, every pyramid offers a lot to kids, and trying to make every pyramid the same is a self-defeating, if not impossible, endeavor.

I think we agree then? I take issue with the assertion that it’s all interchangeable because we are one single district so boundaries don’t matter. Nothing against other school districts within FCPS, I just prefer mine.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will happen on boundaries. It was all Dem the last four years and nothing happened. There is no incentive for them to do anything on boundaries. They will just spend more money expanding the preferred schools.

The board doesn't give a squat about citizen input.

That comment make no sense in this context. Fairfax County citizens hate redistricting.

This is true ^^. The only people who constantly obsess and gnash their teeth about redistricting are DCUM's finest - the ones who insist we must racially and economically balance the schools, regardless of geography. Or maybe, in spite of geography.
DP

So the citizens of this county, overwhelmingly liberal, want nothing to do with their kids going to school with the "undesirables". Limousine Liberals is how that is defined.

I’m a liberal, and there is zero cognitive dissonance for me. People on this board often seem to advocate for redistricting in order to soak the rich, not considering how disruptive redistricting would be to everyone involved. I get that people are committed to equity, but to be laser-focused on it at the expense of all else puts you in the extreme wing of the party, and creates many more problems than it solves.

And sometimes I wonder if the people advocating for it own real estate in an area of the country that they think would benefit from redistricting.

The people advocating for it want every school to feel like what one would expect from a Fairfax County school. It's a little absurd that many schools are far closer to resembling a poverty-stricken rural Texas town than a real representation of Fairfax County.

The people against it are the ones who feel that way primarily for real estate reasons. Just read the public comments from the last consultant boundary survey. E.g., "please don't change boundaries because our property value will go down."

I’m all for good public schools, I just don’t believe that an equity-based redistricting is going to be the panacea that you seem to think it will be.

I’m not sure if you own your house, but a home is often a large portion of people’s net worth, and I think it is valid to worry about the value of one’s home. And the two aren’t mutually exclusive - homeowners in good school districts can prefer to stay in those school districts, and homeowners in other districts can desire a redistricting that can result in a home value increase.

We are talking about a SINGLE district — FCPS.

One planet If you really get down to it, right? It’s a bit misleading to pretend that there isn’t variability in a district this big. There are several school districts within your SINGLE district.

No, that’s not true.

You might want to let FCPS know about your alternate interpretation of their facts: https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/redistricting/adopted-2021-redistricting-map

DP, but this does not prove what you seem to think it does. Magisterial districts are not school districts. There are School Board members for each magisterial district, but the schools themselves aren’t administered at the magisterial district level.

You live in a really fun semantic universe.

I have no idea what point you think you are making. That FCPS is a big district with a lot of different pyramids, and that the characteristics of those pyramids vary a lot?

OK. I don’t think anyone disputes that. However, every pyramid offers a lot to kids, and trying to make every pyramid the same is a self-defeating, if not impossible, endeavor.

I think we agree then? I take issue with the assertion that it’s all interchangeable because we are one single district so boundaries don’t matter. Nothing against other school districts within FCPS, I just prefer mine.

Yea, we broadly agree, but saying there are multiple “districts” within FCPS tends to confuse. You may think it’s semantics, but most would say FCPS is a single district, with multiple regions and pyramids for administrative purposes.

When they do change boundaries, which isn’t that often, it often involves sending kids to schools in different regions and pyramids.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will happen on boundaries. It was all Dem the last four years and nothing happened. There is no incentive for them to do anything on boundaries. They will just spend more money expanding the preferred schools.

The board doesn't give a squat about citizen input.

That comment make no sense in this context. Fairfax County citizens hate redistricting.

This is true ^^. The only people who constantly obsess and gnash their teeth about redistricting are DCUM's finest - the ones who insist we must racially and economically balance the schools, regardless of geography. Or maybe, in spite of geography.
DP

So the citizens of this county, overwhelmingly liberal, want nothing to do with their kids going to school with the "undesirables". Limousine Liberals is how that is defined.

I’m a liberal, and there is zero cognitive dissonance for me. People on this board often seem to advocate for redistricting in order to soak the rich, not considering how disruptive redistricting would be to everyone involved. I get that people are committed to equity, but to be laser-focused on it at the expense of all else puts you in the extreme wing of the party, and creates many more problems than it solves.

And sometimes I wonder if the people advocating for it own real estate in an area of the country that they think would benefit from redistricting.

The people advocating for it want every school to feel like what one would expect from a Fairfax County school. It's a little absurd that many schools are far closer to resembling a poverty-stricken rural Texas town than a real representation of Fairfax County.

The people against it are the ones who feel that way primarily for real estate reasons. Just read the public comments from the last consultant boundary survey. E.g., "please don't change boundaries because our property value will go down."

I’m all for good public schools, I just don’t believe that an equity-based redistricting is going to be the panacea that you seem to think it will be.

I’m not sure if you own your house, but a home is often a large portion of people’s net worth, and I think it is valid to worry about the value of one’s home. And the two aren’t mutually exclusive - homeowners in good school districts can prefer to stay in those school districts, and homeowners in other districts can desire a redistricting that can result in a home value increase.

We are talking about a SINGLE district — FCPS.

One planet If you really get down to it, right? It’s a bit misleading to pretend that there isn’t variability in a district this big. There are several school districts within your SINGLE district.

No, that’s not true.

You might want to let FCPS know about your alternate interpretation of their facts: https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/redistricting/adopted-2021-redistricting-map

DP, but this does not prove what you seem to think it does. Magisterial districts are not school districts. There are School Board members for each magisterial district, but the schools themselves aren’t administered at the magisterial district level.

You live in a really fun semantic universe.

I have no idea what point you think you are making. That FCPS is a big district with a lot of different pyramids, and that the characteristics of those pyramids vary a lot?

OK. I don’t think anyone disputes that. However, every pyramid offers a lot to kids, and trying to make every pyramid the same is a self-defeating, if not impossible, endeavor.

I think we agree then? I take issue with the assertion that it’s all interchangeable because we are one single district so boundaries don’t matter. Nothing against other school districts within FCPS, I just prefer mine.

Yea, we broadly agree, but saying there are multiple “districts” within FCPS tends to confuse. You may think it’s semantics, but most would say FCPS is a single district, with multiple regions and pyramids for administrative purposes.

When they do change boundaries, which isn’t that often, it often involves sending kids to schools in different regions and pyramids.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will happen on boundaries. It was all Dem the last four years and nothing happened. There is no incentive for them to do anything on boundaries. They will just spend more money expanding the preferred schools.

The board doesn't give a squat about citizen input.

That comment make no sense in this context. Fairfax County citizens hate redistricting.

This is true ^^. The only people who constantly obsess and gnash their teeth about redistricting are DCUM's finest - the ones who insist we must racially and economically balance the schools, regardless of geography. Or maybe, in spite of geography.
DP

So the citizens of this county, overwhelmingly liberal, want nothing to do with their kids going to school with the "undesirables". Limousine Liberals is how that is defined.

I’m a liberal, and there is zero cognitive dissonance for me. People on this board often seem to advocate for redistricting in order to soak the rich, not considering how disruptive redistricting would be to everyone involved. I get that people are committed to equity, but to be laser-focused on it at the expense of all else puts you in the extreme wing of the party, and creates many more problems than it solves.

And sometimes I wonder if the people advocating for it own real estate in an area of the country that they think would benefit from redistricting.

The people advocating for it want every school to feel like what one would expect from a Fairfax County school. It's a little absurd that many schools are far closer to resembling a poverty-stricken rural Texas town than a real representation of Fairfax County.

The people against it are the ones who feel that way primarily for real estate reasons. Just read the public comments from the last consultant boundary survey. E.g., "please don't change boundaries because our property value will go down."

I’m all for good public schools, I just don’t believe that an equity-based redistricting is going to be the panacea that you seem to think it will be.

I’m not sure if you own your house, but a home is often a large portion of people’s net worth, and I think it is valid to worry about the value of one’s home. And the two aren’t mutually exclusive - homeowners in good school districts can prefer to stay in those school districts, and homeowners in other districts can desire a redistricting that can result in a home value increase.

We are talking about a SINGLE district — FCPS.

One planet If you really get down to it, right? It’s a bit misleading to pretend that there isn’t variability in a district this big. There are several school districts within your SINGLE district.

No, that’s not true.

You might want to let FCPS know about your alternate interpretation of their facts: https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/redistricting/adopted-2021-redistricting-map

DP, but this does not prove what you seem to think it does. Magisterial districts are not school districts. There are School Board members for each magisterial district, but the schools themselves aren’t administered at the magisterial district level.

They used to be divided into nine districts that roughly matched the magisterial districts. That was changed when they reduced the regions from nine to five.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will happen on boundaries. It was all Dem the last four years and nothing happened. There is no incentive for them to do anything on boundaries. They will just spend more money expanding the preferred schools.

The board doesn't give a squat about citizen input.

That comment make no sense in this context. Fairfax County citizens hate redistricting.

This is true ^^. The only people who constantly obsess and gnash their teeth about redistricting are DCUM's finest - the ones who insist we must racially and economically balance the schools, regardless of geography. Or maybe, in spite of geography.
DP

So the citizens of this county, overwhelmingly liberal, want nothing to do with their kids going to school with the "undesirables". Limousine Liberals is how that is defined.

I’m a liberal, and there is zero cognitive dissonance for me. People on this board often seem to advocate for redistricting in order to soak the rich, not considering how disruptive redistricting would be to everyone involved. I get that people are committed to equity, but to be laser-focused on it at the expense of all else puts you in the extreme wing of the party, and creates many more problems than it solves.

And sometimes I wonder if the people advocating for it own real estate in an area of the country that they think would benefit from redistricting.

The people advocating for it want every school to feel like what one would expect from a Fairfax County school. It's a little absurd that many schools are far closer to resembling a poverty-stricken rural Texas town than a real representation of Fairfax County.

The people against it are the ones who feel that way primarily for real estate reasons. Just read the public comments from the last consultant boundary survey. E.g., "please don't change boundaries because our property value will go down."

I’m all for good public schools, I just don’t believe that an equity-based redistricting is going to be the panacea that you seem to think it will be.

I’m not sure if you own your house, but a home is often a large portion of people’s net worth, and I think it is valid to worry about the value of one’s home. And the two aren’t mutually exclusive - homeowners in good school districts can prefer to stay in those school districts, and homeowners in other districts can desire a redistricting that can result in a home value increase.

We are talking about a SINGLE district — FCPS.

One planet If you really get down to it, right? It’s a bit misleading to pretend that there isn’t variability in a district this big. There are several school districts within your SINGLE district.

No, that’s not true.

You might want to let FCPS know about your alternate interpretation of their facts: https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/redistricting/adopted-2021-redistricting-map

DP, but this does not prove what you seem to think it does. Magisterial districts are not school districts. There are School Board members for each magisterial district, but the schools themselves aren’t administered at the magisterial district level.

They used to be divided into nine districts that roughly matched the magisterial districts. That was changed when they reduced the regions from nine to five.

That must have been a long time ago, because before the current regions there were “clusters.” There were eight clusters, not nine, and they did not fully align with the magisterial districts.

Now, of course, the six regions are a mess. For example, they just randomly stuck Marshall in Region 5, where all the other schools in the region are in western Fairfax.