Is St. Albans Grading Fair? I Heard NCS Isn't.

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Anonymous wrote:The grading at NCS US can be very tough, my daughter just had a writing assignment where the grade was capped at 90. You could not get a higher grade, period. Also grading is very teacher dependent and some teachers definitely have reputations for being very harsh graders.
Both schools are hard. If you have kids at both, seems like STA comes out ahead in terms of admin and day to day operations.

My daughter is at NCS and I have never heard of this happening. What class and grade? I have a hard time believing this.

in such a small school, i’m not going to out myself or my daughter. i’m not lying and we will be discussing with school. my daughter was not the only student who was told this and so i tend to believe multiple girls on this one. maybe there is a further explanation but on its face it’s crazy.

What do you mean "capped at a 90?" You mean that the highest grade in the class was a 90 on this assignment? If so, that is totally reasonable. I'm a college professor, and especially in a small class you will find on occasion that nobody in the class does a good job on an assignment. That doesn't mean I should hand out an A "just because."

When you say "capped at a 90" people think you are trying to say that the teacher won't give out an A, no matter how good your work is. I highly doubt this is true.

You have no knowledge on which to make your judgment, which makes you a pompous windbag. Yes, the grade is capped at a 90 because the teacher will not give out grades above that… just because.

And you sound delusional. No teacher does this. I'm sorry your snowflake didn't get an A just because you believe she should have.

Your statement that no teacher does this proves my point that you’re an idiot. You’d have to be pretty asinine to make a statement about a school which you very obviously know nothing about. As for my snowflake, I don’t have one at NCS so there goes your stupid theory.

Wait you don’t even have a daughter at NCS and you have been commenting this entire thread on the grading and whatnot?! Point proven!

There you go again. Showing your idiocy. STA parents have a front row seat to what goes on at NCS. Siblings. Duh.

NP but confused. Up until your last couple “gotcha, you idiot” posts, all your posts (or ones you seemed to be responding to *as if* you wrote them) say “my daughter”. (“my daughter just had a writing assignment where the grade was capped at 90” and “my daughter was not the only student who was told this and so i tend to believe multiple girls on this one”). So either you are the poster with the daughter whose teacher supposedly caps at 90 or you are a parent who doesn’t have a child at NCS (but does have a “sibling” of…some other girl?…at STA?) but who claims to know exactly what teacher is being discussed and can assure us that said teacher does in fact cap at 90 on a whim. Which is it?

I’m the 90 cap on the assignment poster and I’m not the person you’re addressing here. This is my fifth post on this thread. You all must realize there are more than two or three people posting here. My daughter definitely goes to NCS, can’t speak to the other poster’s children!

Yeah it took me a while but there is the parent above who is not the troll, but there is also a troll with no child at NCS who responds to posts calling people idiots and pompous windbags.

Eh. Posting that something categorically does not happen when you don’t have a child at the school deserves being called a pompous windbag. There is a poster who doesn’t have a child there who keeps insisting NCS can’t possibly have teachers who cap grades at 90. Anyone who has a child at NCS Upper School knows differently.

Different poster and it's going on right now. My daughter just received an 88% on a paper that would have received an A in my college upper level English class. She actually sent it to my sibling who teaches at a top 10 university for his thoughts and he said the same. The top grade on this assignment by anyone in the class was a 90%. It is what it is and she's gotten used to it but it's the reality.

We have all experienced teachers or coaches that we believed treated us or our children unfairly. It happens. I think people don’t believe it because many of us have kids there and have asked our daughters and they said they had not experienced this. Others have asked their daughters after reading this and their daughters also said no.

Your post is a dis on parents who have posted that their daughters experienced grade capping. The question, “Did you experience this?” Is a pretty bad one. Your child may not have experienced it because they did not have that teacher, was never in the range for an A, or needs to believe it hasn’t happened to her because she wants to believe that if she works harder she can get that A next time.

Yes, English and history grading are subjective, but it can occur in other subjects, too, where one teacher of a math section presents much harder tests than the other.

No one is saying life isn’t unfair but when a teacher refuses to give As on principle no matter how good the quality of work and the school allows it, that’s penalizing the students unnecessarily and exacerbating the mental health issues they already face because of the intensity of academics at NCS.

DP. So it’s math now too?

What actions have you taken since you posted this last week? You express that you think it is completely unfair so what have you done about it besides post on here? Serious question.

If it’s a serious question, it’s insulting and suggests you know little of how NCS operates. Teacher independence is a touchstone. NCS admin will not engage with teachers on grading even as they acknowledge the grade deflation and deflect it by saying colleges know how rigorous the school is. Have parents had discussions with the school about this issue. Absolutely. Has it changed anything? No.

Math was used as an example of differences in how teachers in so-called “objective” subjects can also create inequities in grading.

You sound naive and ignorant. Serious question - how much experience do you have discussing issues with NCS or any private school leadership about teacher practices?

You still have not answered the question. We are talking about this specific incident and teacher of allegedly capping at 90. We are not talking about general complaints.

So have you spoken to the school about this specific teacher and capping?

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Anonymous wrote:The grading at NCS US can be very tough, my daughter just had a writing assignment where the grade was capped at 90. You could not get a higher grade, period. Also grading is very teacher dependent and some teachers definitely have reputations for being very harsh graders.
Both schools are hard. If you have kids at both, seems like STA comes out ahead in terms of admin and day to day operations.

My daughter is at NCS and I have never heard of this happening. What class and grade? I have a hard time believing this.

in such a small school, i’m not going to out myself or my daughter. i’m not lying and we will be discussing with school. my daughter was not the only student who was told this and so i tend to believe multiple girls on this one. maybe there is a further explanation but on its face it’s crazy.

What do you mean "capped at a 90?" You mean that the highest grade in the class was a 90 on this assignment? If so, that is totally reasonable. I'm a college professor, and especially in a small class you will find on occasion that nobody in the class does a good job on an assignment. That doesn't mean I should hand out an A "just because."

When you say "capped at a 90" people think you are trying to say that the teacher won't give out an A, no matter how good your work is. I highly doubt this is true.

You have no knowledge on which to make your judgment, which makes you a pompous windbag. Yes, the grade is capped at a 90 because the teacher will not give out grades above that… just because.

And you sound delusional. No teacher does this. I'm sorry your snowflake didn't get an A just because you believe she should have.

Your statement that no teacher does this proves my point that you’re an idiot. You’d have to be pretty asinine to make a statement about a school which you very obviously know nothing about. As for my snowflake, I don’t have one at NCS so there goes your stupid theory.

Wait you don’t even have a daughter at NCS and you have been commenting this entire thread on the grading and whatnot?! Point proven!

There you go again. Showing your idiocy. STA parents have a front row seat to what goes on at NCS. Siblings. Duh.

NP but confused. Up until your last couple “gotcha, you idiot” posts, all your posts (or ones you seemed to be responding to *as if* you wrote them) say “my daughter”. (“my daughter just had a writing assignment where the grade was capped at 90” and “my daughter was not the only student who was told this and so i tend to believe multiple girls on this one”). So either you are the poster with the daughter whose teacher supposedly caps at 90 or you are a parent who doesn’t have a child at NCS (but does have a “sibling” of…some other girl?…at STA?) but who claims to know exactly what teacher is being discussed and can assure us that said teacher does in fact cap at 90 on a whim. Which is it?

I’m the 90 cap on the assignment poster and I’m not the person you’re addressing here. This is my fifth post on this thread. You all must realize there are more than two or three people posting here. My daughter definitely goes to NCS, can’t speak to the other poster’s children!

Yeah it took me a while but there is the parent above who is not the troll, but there is also a troll with no child at NCS who responds to posts calling people idiots and pompous windbags.

Eh. Posting that something categorically does not happen when you don’t have a child at the school deserves being called a pompous windbag. There is a poster who doesn’t have a child there who keeps insisting NCS can’t possibly have teachers who cap grades at 90. Anyone who has a child at NCS Upper School knows differently.

Different poster and it's going on right now. My daughter just received an 88% on a paper that would have received an A in my college upper level English class. She actually sent it to my sibling who teaches at a top 10 university for his thoughts and he said the same. The top grade on this assignment by anyone in the class was a 90%. It is what it is and she's gotten used to it but it's the reality.

We have all experienced teachers or coaches that we believed treated us or our children unfairly. It happens. I think people don’t believe it because many of us have kids there and have asked our daughters and they said they had not experienced this. Others have asked their daughters after reading this and their daughters also said no.

Your post is a dis on parents who have posted that their daughters experienced grade capping. The question, “Did you experience this?” Is a pretty bad one. Your child may not have experienced it because they did not have that teacher, was never in the range for an A, or needs to believe it hasn’t happened to her because she wants to believe that if she works harder she can get that A next time.

Yes, English and history grading are subjective, but it can occur in other subjects, too, where one teacher of a math section presents much harder tests than the other.

No one is saying life isn’t unfair but when a teacher refuses to give As on principle no matter how good the quality of work and the school allows it, that’s penalizing the students unnecessarily and exacerbating the mental health issues they already face because of the intensity of academics at NCS.

DP. So it’s math now too?

What actions have you taken since you posted this last week? You express that you think it is completely unfair so what have you done about it besides post on here? Serious question.

If it’s a serious question, it’s insulting and suggests you know little of how NCS operates. Teacher independence is a touchstone. NCS admin will not engage with teachers on grading even as they acknowledge the grade deflation and deflect it by saying colleges know how rigorous the school is. Have parents had discussions with the school about this issue. Absolutely. Has it changed anything? No.

Math was used as an example of differences in how teachers in so-called “objective” subjects can also create inequities in grading.

You sound naive and ignorant. Serious question - how much experience do you have discussing issues with NCS or any private school leadership about teacher practices?

You still have not answered the question. We are talking about this specific incident and teacher of allegedly capping at 90. We are not talking about general complaints.

So have you spoken to the school about this specific teacher and capping?

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Anonymous wrote:The grading at NCS US can be very tough, my daughter just had a writing assignment where the grade was capped at 90. You could not get a higher grade, period. Also grading is very teacher dependent and some teachers definitely have reputations for being very harsh graders.
Both schools are hard. If you have kids at both, seems like STA comes out ahead in terms of admin and day to day operations.

My daughter is at NCS and I have never heard of this happening. What class and grade? I have a hard time believing this.

in such a small school, i’m not going to out myself or my daughter. i’m not lying and we will be discussing with school. my daughter was not the only student who was told this and so i tend to believe multiple girls on this one. maybe there is a further explanation but on its face it’s crazy.

What do you mean "capped at a 90?" You mean that the highest grade in the class was a 90 on this assignment? If so, that is totally reasonable. I'm a college professor, and especially in a small class you will find on occasion that nobody in the class does a good job on an assignment. That doesn't mean I should hand out an A "just because."

When you say "capped at a 90" people think you are trying to say that the teacher won't give out an A, no matter how good your work is. I highly doubt this is true.

You have no knowledge on which to make your judgment, which makes you a pompous windbag. Yes, the grade is capped at a 90 because the teacher will not give out grades above that… just because.

And you sound delusional. No teacher does this. I'm sorry your snowflake didn't get an A just because you believe she should have.

Your statement that no teacher does this proves my point that you’re an idiot. You’d have to be pretty asinine to make a statement about a school which you very obviously know nothing about. As for my snowflake, I don’t have one at NCS so there goes your stupid theory.

Wait you don’t even have a daughter at NCS and you have been commenting this entire thread on the grading and whatnot?! Point proven!

There you go again. Showing your idiocy. STA parents have a front row seat to what goes on at NCS. Siblings. Duh.

NP but confused. Up until your last couple “gotcha, you idiot” posts, all your posts (or ones you seemed to be responding to *as if* you wrote them) say “my daughter”. (“my daughter just had a writing assignment where the grade was capped at 90” and “my daughter was not the only student who was told this and so i tend to believe multiple girls on this one”). So either you are the poster with the daughter whose teacher supposedly caps at 90 or you are a parent who doesn’t have a child at NCS (but does have a “sibling” of…some other girl?…at STA?) but who claims to know exactly what teacher is being discussed and can assure us that said teacher does in fact cap at 90 on a whim. Which is it?

I’m the 90 cap on the assignment poster and I’m not the person you’re addressing here. This is my fifth post on this thread. You all must realize there are more than two or three people posting here. My daughter definitely goes to NCS, can’t speak to the other poster’s children!

Yeah it took me a while but there is the parent above who is not the troll, but there is also a troll with no child at NCS who responds to posts calling people idiots and pompous windbags.

Eh. Posting that something categorically does not happen when you don’t have a child at the school deserves being called a pompous windbag. There is a poster who doesn’t have a child there who keeps insisting NCS can’t possibly have teachers who cap grades at 90. Anyone who has a child at NCS Upper School knows differently.

Different poster and it's going on right now. My daughter just received an 88% on a paper that would have received an A in my college upper level English class. She actually sent it to my sibling who teaches at a top 10 university for his thoughts and he said the same. The top grade on this assignment by anyone in the class was a 90%. It is what it is and she's gotten used to it but it's the reality.

We have all experienced teachers or coaches that we believed treated us or our children unfairly. It happens. I think people don’t believe it because many of us have kids there and have asked our daughters and they said they had not experienced this. Others have asked their daughters after reading this and their daughters also said no.

Your post is a dis on parents who have posted that their daughters experienced grade capping. The question, “Did you experience this?” Is a pretty bad one. Your child may not have experienced it because they did not have that teacher, was never in the range for an A, or needs to believe it hasn’t happened to her because she wants to believe that if she works harder she can get that A next time.

Yes, English and history grading are subjective, but it can occur in other subjects, too, where one teacher of a math section presents much harder tests than the other.

No one is saying life isn’t unfair but when a teacher refuses to give As on principle no matter how good the quality of work and the school allows it, that’s penalizing the students unnecessarily and exacerbating the mental health issues they already face because of the intensity of academics at NCS.

DP. So it’s math now too?

What actions have you taken since you posted this last week? You express that you think it is completely unfair so what have you done about it besides post on here? Serious question.

If it’s a serious question, it’s insulting and suggests you know little of how NCS operates. Teacher independence is a touchstone. NCS admin will not engage with teachers on grading even as they acknowledge the grade deflation and deflect it by saying colleges know how rigorous the school is. Have parents had discussions with the school about this issue. Absolutely. Has it changed anything? No.

Math was used as an example of differences in how teachers in so-called “objective” subjects can also create inequities in grading.

You sound naive and ignorant. Serious question - how much experience do you have discussing issues with NCS or any private school leadership about teacher practices?

You still have not answered the question. We are talking about this specific incident and teacher of allegedly capping at 90. We are not talking about general complaints.

So have you spoken to the school about this specific teacher and capping?

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Let me repeat myself. Yes. Me and other parents. Multiple times over multiple years.

Since you are clearly not an NCS parent if you’re unaware of this, why do you care?

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Anonymous wrote:The grading at NCS US can be very tough, my daughter just had a writing assignment where the grade was capped at 90. You could not get a higher grade, period. Also grading is very teacher dependent and some teachers definitely have reputations for being very harsh graders.
Both schools are hard. If you have kids at both, seems like STA comes out ahead in terms of admin and day to day operations.

My daughter is at NCS and I have never heard of this happening. What class and grade? I have a hard time believing this.

in such a small school, i’m not going to out myself or my daughter. i’m not lying and we will be discussing with school. my daughter was not the only student who was told this and so i tend to believe multiple girls on this one. maybe there is a further explanation but on its face it’s crazy.

What do you mean "capped at a 90?" You mean that the highest grade in the class was a 90 on this assignment? If so, that is totally reasonable. I'm a college professor, and especially in a small class you will find on occasion that nobody in the class does a good job on an assignment. That doesn't mean I should hand out an A "just because."

When you say "capped at a 90" people think you are trying to say that the teacher won't give out an A, no matter how good your work is. I highly doubt this is true.

You have no knowledge on which to make your judgment, which makes you a pompous windbag. Yes, the grade is capped at a 90 because the teacher will not give out grades above that… just because.

And you sound delusional. No teacher does this. I'm sorry your snowflake didn't get an A just because you believe she should have.

Your statement that no teacher does this proves my point that you’re an idiot. You’d have to be pretty asinine to make a statement about a school which you very obviously know nothing about. As for my snowflake, I don’t have one at NCS so there goes your stupid theory.

Wait you don’t even have a daughter at NCS and you have been commenting this entire thread on the grading and whatnot?! Point proven!

There you go again. Showing your idiocy. STA parents have a front row seat to what goes on at NCS. Siblings. Duh.

NP but confused. Up until your last couple “gotcha, you idiot” posts, all your posts (or ones you seemed to be responding to *as if* you wrote them) say “my daughter”. (“my daughter just had a writing assignment where the grade was capped at 90” and “my daughter was not the only student who was told this and so i tend to believe multiple girls on this one”). So either you are the poster with the daughter whose teacher supposedly caps at 90 or you are a parent who doesn’t have a child at NCS (but does have a “sibling” of…some other girl?…at STA?) but who claims to know exactly what teacher is being discussed and can assure us that said teacher does in fact cap at 90 on a whim. Which is it?

I’m the 90 cap on the assignment poster and I’m not the person you’re addressing here. This is my fifth post on this thread. You all must realize there are more than two or three people posting here. My daughter definitely goes to NCS, can’t speak to the other poster’s children!

Yeah it took me a while but there is the parent above who is not the troll, but there is also a troll with no child at NCS who responds to posts calling people idiots and pompous windbags.

Eh. Posting that something categorically does not happen when you don’t have a child at the school deserves being called a pompous windbag. There is a poster who doesn’t have a child there who keeps insisting NCS can’t possibly have teachers who cap grades at 90. Anyone who has a child at NCS Upper School knows differently.

Different poster and it's going on right now. My daughter just received an 88% on a paper that would have received an A in my college upper level English class. She actually sent it to my sibling who teaches at a top 10 university for his thoughts and he said the same. The top grade on this assignment by anyone in the class was a 90%. It is what it is and she's gotten used to it but it's the reality.

We have all experienced teachers or coaches that we believed treated us or our children unfairly. It happens. I think people don’t believe it because many of us have kids there and have asked our daughters and they said they had not experienced this. Others have asked their daughters after reading this and their daughters also said no.

Your post is a dis on parents who have posted that their daughters experienced grade capping. The question, “Did you experience this?” Is a pretty bad one. Your child may not have experienced it because they did not have that teacher, was never in the range for an A, or needs to believe it hasn’t happened to her because she wants to believe that if she works harder she can get that A next time.

Yes, English and history grading are subjective, but it can occur in other subjects, too, where one teacher of a math section presents much harder tests than the other.

No one is saying life isn’t unfair but when a teacher refuses to give As on principle no matter how good the quality of work and the school allows it, that’s penalizing the students unnecessarily and exacerbating the mental health issues they already face because of the intensity of academics at NCS.

DP. So it’s math now too?

What actions have you taken since you posted this last week? You express that you think it is completely unfair so what have you done about it besides post on here? Serious question.

If it’s a serious question, it’s insulting and suggests you know little of how NCS operates. Teacher independence is a touchstone. NCS admin will not engage with teachers on grading even as they acknowledge the grade deflation and deflect it by saying colleges know how rigorous the school is. Have parents had discussions with the school about this issue. Absolutely. Has it changed anything? No.

Math was used as an example of differences in how teachers in so-called “objective” subjects can also create inequities in grading.

You sound naive and ignorant. Serious question - how much experience do you have discussing issues with NCS or any private school leadership about teacher practices?

You still have not answered the question. We are talking about this specific incident and teacher of allegedly capping at 90. We are not talking about general complaints.

So have you spoken to the school about this specific teacher and capping?

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Let me repeat myself. Yes. Me and other parents. Multiple times over multiple years.

Since you are clearly not an NCS parent if you’re unaware of this, why do you care?

I am an NCS parent which is why I care.

This paper capping was recent no? So it sounds like you did not ask the school about this specific incident but you should. That is the answer - you did not ask the school about this specific capping.

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Anonymous wrote:The grading at NCS US can be very tough, my daughter just had a writing assignment where the grade was capped at 90. You could not get a higher grade, period. Also grading is very teacher dependent and some teachers definitely have reputations for being very harsh graders.
Both schools are hard. If you have kids at both, seems like STA comes out ahead in terms of admin and day to day operations.

My daughter is at NCS and I have never heard of this happening. What class and grade? I have a hard time believing this.

in such a small school, i’m not going to out myself or my daughter. i’m not lying and we will be discussing with school. my daughter was not the only student who was told this and so i tend to believe multiple girls on this one. maybe there is a further explanation but on its face it’s crazy.

What do you mean "capped at a 90?" You mean that the highest grade in the class was a 90 on this assignment? If so, that is totally reasonable. I'm a college professor, and especially in a small class you will find on occasion that nobody in the class does a good job on an assignment. That doesn't mean I should hand out an A "just because."

When you say "capped at a 90" people think you are trying to say that the teacher won't give out an A, no matter how good your work is. I highly doubt this is true.

You have no knowledge on which to make your judgment, which makes you a pompous windbag. Yes, the grade is capped at a 90 because the teacher will not give out grades above that… just because.

And you sound delusional. No teacher does this. I'm sorry your snowflake didn't get an A just because you believe she should have.

Your statement that no teacher does this proves my point that you’re an idiot. You’d have to be pretty asinine to make a statement about a school which you very obviously know nothing about. As for my snowflake, I don’t have one at NCS so there goes your stupid theory.

Wait you don’t even have a daughter at NCS and you have been commenting this entire thread on the grading and whatnot?! Point proven!

There you go again. Showing your idiocy. STA parents have a front row seat to what goes on at NCS. Siblings. Duh.

NP but confused. Up until your last couple “gotcha, you idiot” posts, all your posts (or ones you seemed to be responding to *as if* you wrote them) say “my daughter”. (“my daughter just had a writing assignment where the grade was capped at 90” and “my daughter was not the only student who was told this and so i tend to believe multiple girls on this one”). So either you are the poster with the daughter whose teacher supposedly caps at 90 or you are a parent who doesn’t have a child at NCS (but does have a “sibling” of…some other girl?…at STA?) but who claims to know exactly what teacher is being discussed and can assure us that said teacher does in fact cap at 90 on a whim. Which is it?

I’m the 90 cap on the assignment poster and I’m not the person you’re addressing here. This is my fifth post on this thread. You all must realize there are more than two or three people posting here. My daughter definitely goes to NCS, can’t speak to the other poster’s children!

Yeah it took me a while but there is the parent above who is not the troll, but there is also a troll with no child at NCS who responds to posts calling people idiots and pompous windbags.

Eh. Posting that something categorically does not happen when you don’t have a child at the school deserves being called a pompous windbag. There is a poster who doesn’t have a child there who keeps insisting NCS can’t possibly have teachers who cap grades at 90. Anyone who has a child at NCS Upper School knows differently.

Different poster and it's going on right now. My daughter just received an 88% on a paper that would have received an A in my college upper level English class. She actually sent it to my sibling who teaches at a top 10 university for his thoughts and he said the same. The top grade on this assignment by anyone in the class was a 90%. It is what it is and she's gotten used to it but it's the reality.

We have all experienced teachers or coaches that we believed treated us or our children unfairly. It happens. I think people don’t believe it because many of us have kids there and have asked our daughters and they said they had not experienced this. Others have asked their daughters after reading this and their daughters also said no.

Your post is a dis on parents who have posted that their daughters experienced grade capping. The question, “Did you experience this?” Is a pretty bad one. Your child may not have experienced it because they did not have that teacher, was never in the range for an A, or needs to believe it hasn’t happened to her because she wants to believe that if she works harder she can get that A next time.

Yes, English and history grading are subjective, but it can occur in other subjects, too, where one teacher of a math section presents much harder tests than the other.

No one is saying life isn’t unfair but when a teacher refuses to give As on principle no matter how good the quality of work and the school allows it, that’s penalizing the students unnecessarily and exacerbating the mental health issues they already face because of the intensity of academics at NCS.

DP. So it’s math now too?

What actions have you taken since you posted this last week? You express that you think it is completely unfair so what have you done about it besides post on here? Serious question.

If it’s a serious question, it’s insulting and suggests you know little of how NCS operates. Teacher independence is a touchstone. NCS admin will not engage with teachers on grading even as they acknowledge the grade deflation and deflect it by saying colleges know how rigorous the school is. Have parents had discussions with the school about this issue. Absolutely. Has it changed anything? No.

Math was used as an example of differences in how teachers in so-called “objective” subjects can also create inequities in grading.

You sound naive and ignorant. Serious question - how much experience do you have discussing issues with NCS or any private school leadership about teacher practices?

You still have not answered the question. We are talking about this specific incident and teacher of allegedly capping at 90. We are not talking about general complaints.

So have you spoken to the school about this specific teacher and capping?

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Let me repeat myself. Yes. Me and other parents. Multiple times over multiple years.

Since you are clearly not an NCS parent if you’re unaware of this, why do you care?

I am an NCS parent which is why I care.

This paper capping was recent no? So it sounds like you did not ask the school about this specific incident but you should. That is the answer - you did not ask the school about this specific capping.

No, honey. The recent incident was a different poster. I was supporting her because some were claiming it never happens. It does happen. Parents have talked to admin about the grade capping and deflation for years. Nothing changes.

As for the parents who ask why you don’t just pull a child out, it’s difficult for any teen to leave their friend group, even if the school is less than ideal.

[Anonymous]

Wow. This school seems like a nightmare to work at if this thread is representative of the parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. This school seems like a nightmare to work at if this thread is representative of the parents.

Most parents are actually very nice and chill. Have been at the school for several years.

[jsteele]

Wasn't this thread supposed to be about St. Albans? Seems to be mostly off-topic.