Complaint ag Harvard Re Legacy Admissions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course these other policies differ from affirmative action in that they are race neutral categories.
30 percent non white benefitting from legacies is not an insignificant amount. Minorities make up a sizable portion of athletic recruits.

The irony of ending legacies now is that we are just reaching the point where the increasingly diverse classes from the 1980s and later have kids of college age.

+1

Otherwise known as cutting off their nose to spite their face.

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Anonymous wrote:With sports, at least the kid did something.
With legacy, the kid just was born into a certain family. Zero effort.

and with preferences for things like squash - fencing - equestrian
These are all sports that are historically overly represented by Caucasian students at the college level.
It is a way to get preference - and if you have a lot of money - you can make it happen

You can’t just buy your way into a team. You actually have to be good at the sport, ie, you must have merit.

oh please. You really think Trump had any "merit"?

Trump was not a recruited athlete so wtf are you talking about, he is not relevant to the discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:My experience with competitive Asian parents and kids is that they’re just as “racist” and exclusionary as the whites and others they bash. Asians aren’t applauding the SC decision because they’re more morally upright, but because they see a competitive advantage. That’s fine, but let’s just be honest about motivations here.

And if they think this ruling restores a "meritocracy" they will be sorely mistaken.

Absolutely, those taking a victory lap are going to be very surprised when the demographic composition of college classes next year and going forward is near identical to this year.

Lol, Asians have been on an upward trend at Harvard ever since the lawsuit. It's now almost 30%.

Don’t expect further upward movement.

Fight amongst yourselves be cause this can only go so far. It will always be Japanese>Korean>Chinese>Vietnamese>Other Asians, in the Asians World.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My experience with competitive Asian parents and kids is that they’re just as “racist” and exclusionary as the whites and others they bash. Asians aren’t applauding the SC decision because they’re more morally upright, but because they see a competitive advantage. That’s fine, but let’s just be honest about motivations here.

And if they think this ruling restores a "meritocracy" they will be sorely mistaken.

Absolutely, those taking a victory lap are going to be very surprised when the demographic composition of college classes next year and going forward is near identical to this year.

Lol, Asians have been on an upward trend at Harvard ever since the lawsuit. It's now almost 30%.

Don’t expect further upward movement.

Fight amongst yourselves be cause this can only go so far. It will always be Japanese>Korean>Chinese>Vietnamese>Other Asians, in the Asians World.

Maybe that’s in your own Asian world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Being poor/middle class and unconnected is not a protected class. I say this as a middle class unconnected person. I don't see a legal basis for this.

A few lawyer friends noted that Congress could pass a law making legacy illegal and because most private institutions accept federal funds, they would be required to follow the law.

Very unlikely to happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Being poor/middle class and unconnected is not a protected class. I say this as a middle class unconnected person. I don't see a legal basis for this.

A few lawyer friends noted that Congress could pass a law making legacy illegal and because most private institutions accept federal funds, they would be required to follow the law.

Very unlikely to happen.

So no one is allowed to attend the colleges their parents attended?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With sports, at least the kid did something.
With legacy, the kid just was born into a certain family. Zero effort.

and with preferences for things like squash - fencing - equestrian
These are all sports that are historically overly represented by Caucasian students at the college level.
It is a way to get preference - and if you have a lot of money - you can make it happen

You can’t just buy your way into a team. You actually have to be good at the sport, ie, you must have merit.

oh please. You really think Trump had any "merit"?

Trump was not a recruited athlete so wtf are you talking about, he is not relevant to the discussion.

He was probably LD in ALDC

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Being poor/middle class and unconnected is not a protected class. I say this as a middle class unconnected person. I don't see a legal basis for this.

A few lawyer friends noted that Congress could pass a law making legacy illegal and because most private institutions accept federal funds, they would be required to follow the law.

Very unlikely to happen.

So no one is allowed to attend the colleges their parents attended?

They are allowed as long as they get in fairly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My experience with competitive Asian parents and kids is that they’re just as “racist” and exclusionary as the whites and others they bash. Asians aren’t applauding the SC decision because they’re more morally upright, but because they see a competitive advantage. That’s fine, but let’s just be honest about motivations here.

And if they think this ruling restores a "meritocracy" they will be sorely mistaken.

Absolutely, those taking a victory lap are going to be very surprised when the demographic composition of college classes next year and going forward is near identical to this year.

Lol, Asians have been on an upward trend at Harvard ever since the lawsuit. It's now almost 30%.

Don’t expect further upward movement.

Fight amongst yourselves be cause this can only go so far. It will always be Japanese>Korean>Chinese>Vietnamese>Other Asians, in the Asians World.

Maybe that’s in your own Asian world.

+1

DCUM is incredibly ranking conscious, ranking ivies, ivy pluses, little ivies... This mentality naturally carries over to ranking ethnicities.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2023/7/4/legacy-admissions-complaint/

Interesting that athletic recruiting wasn’t mentioned, even though that favors Caucasian applicants, too:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/10/harvard-university-and-scandal-sports-recruitment/599248/

I can’t believe publications are still using the term “Latinx”. Don’t the know everyone hates it?

Also, hasn’t the SC ruled that you can discriminate against anyone now?

Leave it to Americans who try to change the Spanish language to fit the trends of today. Latinos don’t use it even if they have heard of it. But most haven’t.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Being poor/middle class and unconnected is not a protected class. I say this as a middle class unconnected person. I don't see a legal basis for this.

A few lawyer friends noted that Congress could pass a law making legacy illegal and because most private institutions accept federal funds, they would be required to follow the law.

Very unlikely to happen.

So no one is allowed to attend the colleges their parents attended?

They are allowed as long as they get in fairly.

Would their admission be fair if they have 1550/4.0?

[Anonymous]

This is a stupid lawsuit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Being poor/middle class and unconnected is not a protected class. I say this as a middle class unconnected person. I don't see a legal basis for this.

A few lawyer friends noted that Congress could pass a law making legacy illegal and because most private institutions accept federal funds, they would be required to follow the law.

Very unlikely to happen.

So no one is allowed to attend the colleges their parents attended?

They are allowed as long as they get in fairly.

Would their admission be fair if they have 1550/4.0?

1550/unweighted 4.0: yes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a stupid lawsuit.

Sounds very very familiar.
many many people said same thing about AA lawsuit

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Being poor/middle class and unconnected is not a protected class. I say this as a middle class unconnected person. I don't see a legal basis for this.

A few lawyer friends noted that Congress could pass a law making legacy illegal and because most private institutions accept federal funds, they would be required to follow the law.

A politician who push this will get a lot of votes

And will lose a ton of the big donors candidates vie over.