Why do rich women pay lots of money to deform their faces to look like this?

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t think this is a “rich women” thing. Sadly women of all socioeconomic classes do this.

OTOH my mother and her friends are all “rich” women and they are aging old school NE Yankee style, grey men’s hair cuts, no makeup, turtlenecks and pearl studs. So its really more of a class than a wealth thing.

Thank God someone is here to defend rich women. The right rich women anyway.

Happy to do it! You can ask me anything about the “right” way to age, my people have very strong opinions.

Please tell me how to age like an NE Yankee, I am curious

OK, I will.

You develop a non-nonsense approach to life -- you get up early, you spend a chunk of the day outside, even in foul weather -- probably with dogs -- you don't mind your skin being weathered b/c it's proof you spent your life skiing, sailing and gardening. Plus your husband and all the women around you are strongly supporting this ethos. You love to walk. You even go on vacations to walk -- like rambling through the Cottwsolds for example. You believe a good brisk walk and a hot cup of tea will fix most any mood.

You don't complai. You don't get waxed, blow-outs, manicures. You don't spend money on yourself as in "self-care" unless buying a new bulb-digger to plant fall bulbs is considered self-care. Maybe you slap on some lipstick for Christmas Vespers at church.

You under no circumstances try to be sexy or trendy. You are practical and timeless in your fashion.

You focus on family, volunteer work in your community -- esp. if it's plants/garden related!, do the NYT crossword puzzle, carry on centuries old traditions like baking weird food no one actually wants, decoating and celebrating all the holidays, and most importantly embracing this stage of life as an adult women who has earned respect and dignity and is not trying to recapture her youth.

Oh and books, always be reading something that someone you respect suggested. Start your sentences with "The other day I heard on NPR . . ."

You join -- church, civic groups, tennis ladders, garden clubs, book clubs etc.

Of course what makes this all possible is that literally all of the people in my mom's social circle are the same! NPR-listening, no-nonsense, dog-loving, gardeners.

This is me and I'm 42. Minus the gardening.

I wear makeup like once a month. I would never get plastic surgery that wasn't corrective. I've never dyed my hair, and I just air dry it. I do take care of my skin - sunscreen since my 20s, tretinoin and growth factors now. I'm self conscious about my chin so I just bought a little exerciser for it. So there are things I do care about, but a lot of lines I won't cross.

I do look at the lizard people and think . . . what the, why? But also, live and let live. To me, it doesn't make sense to spend money on potentially risky surgery just to look worse. But we also get to choose how we spend our money and time and what we want to look like. I just hope people feel empowered and beautiful and they're not imprisoned by some unrealistic body ideal or suffering from dysmorphia.

Please tell me more about the chin exerciser.

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Anonymous wrote:Stay misogynistic and disgusting DCUM women.

We feel the same way about Michael Jackson.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you saying that's not really what Gwen looks like - this photo is from a year ago. Totally what she looks like.

She looks plastic but pretty here. Her face doesn’t look as stretched out. She’s following a certain lifestyle just like you “no frills, no nonsense” types wearing LL Bean and walking your dogs. Yours is no virtuous or better than hers.

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Anonymous wrote:Madonna is a mess - all that work on face and her hands show her age

Oh god is that her boyfriend or her son

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I read the "30plusskincare" discussion on reddit and....cannot believe how much people use Botox, fillers, etc. !!! I think of "skin care" as moisturizer, etc. but a lot of people seem to get eyelid surgeries, lip fillers, super expensive laser procedures, "vampire facials," etc. that add up to thousands a year. That's fine, I guess, if you have the money--some of these things will make you look better--but there is an undercurrent in a lot of the posts about how people feel insecure if they don't keep up with it once they start, and it also seems like once you do one thing, then you start doing a lot more. Also, many of them recommend that people start in their 20's and 30's as "preventive maintenance."

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you saying that's not really what Gwen looks like - this photo is from a year ago. Totally what she looks like.

She looks plastic but pretty here. Her face doesn’t look as stretched out. She’s following a certain lifestyle just like you “no frills, no nonsense” types wearing LL Bean and walking your dogs. Yours is no virtuous or better than hers.

It’s just the lips. They are in no sense natural looking. I personally don’t think they’re attractive, but I guess there’s a market for this look and I’m not it.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t think this is a “rich women” thing. Sadly women of all socioeconomic classes do this.

OTOH my mother and her friends are all “rich” women and they are aging old school NE Yankee style, grey men’s hair cuts, no makeup, turtlenecks and pearl studs. So its really more of a class than a wealth thing.

Thank God someone is here to defend rich women. The right rich women anyway.

Happy to do it! You can ask me anything about the “right” way to age, my people have very strong opinions.

Please tell me how to age like an NE Yankee, I am curious

OK, I will.

You develop a non-nonsense approach to life -- you get up early, you spend a chunk of the day outside, even in foul weather -- probably with dogs -- you don't mind your skin being weathered b/c it's proof you spent your life skiing, sailing and gardening. Plus your husband and all the women around you are strongly supporting this ethos. You love to walk. You even go on vacations to walk -- like rambling through the Cottwsolds for example. You believe a good brisk walk and a hot cup of tea will fix most any mood.

You don't complai. You don't get waxed, blow-outs, manicures. You don't spend money on yourself as in "self-care" unless buying a new bulb-digger to plant fall bulbs is considered self-care. Maybe you slap on some lipstick for Christmas Vespers at church.

You under no circumstances try to be sexy or trendy. You are practical and timeless in your fashion.

You focus on family, volunteer work in your community -- esp. if it's plants/garden related!, do the NYT crossword puzzle, carry on centuries old traditions like baking weird food no one actually wants, decoating and celebrating all the holidays, and most importantly embracing this stage of life as an adult women who has earned respect and dignity and is not trying to recapture her youth.

Oh and books, always be reading something that someone you respect suggested. Start your sentences with "The other day I heard on NPR . . ."

You join -- church, civic groups, tennis ladders, garden clubs, book clubs etc.

Of course what makes this all possible is that literally all of the people in my mom's social circle are the same! NPR-listening, no-nonsense, dog-loving, gardeners.

Huh. I grew up in New England, my parents still live there, and while I def see some of that "still shoveling the driveway at 90" sort of thing my mother and her friends are a lot artsier, and a lot more vain. My mom hasn't had surgery or fillers but she spends a good fortune on skincare products - and her skin looks great. She's always worn makeup and gotten manicures. She is partially disabled and we are Jewish, and she isn't going to church or spending all day outside. We do love gardening, though - you've got us there.

But wow you sure have a limited view of what "New England" women are like. I'm guessing you're from a wealthy town in Connecticut?

Actually, a wealthy town in Mass! But I am only talking about my mom and her people. Of course NE is filled with all types, but it is striking this sub-culture of NE women like my mom and her friends who seem to totally buck the current trends of long, highlighted hair, botox, fake tans, teddy clothes for older women. They seem to totally own their age.

This is also coastal Maine women.

+1 as a coastal Maine woman. The description is me other than the church stuff.

I’m the coastal Maine poster. I’m in DC right now but the minute I cross the bridge into Maine I feel my shoulders drop and I begin to breathe differently. Do you know the feeling I mean?

A Congregational or Episcopal Church can be great for community, service, and choir. Just saying! Cheers, Maine friends.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t think this is a “rich women” thing. Sadly women of all socioeconomic classes do this.

OTOH my mother and her friends are all “rich” women and they are aging old school NE Yankee style, grey men’s hair cuts, no makeup, turtlenecks and pearl studs. So its really more of a class than a wealth thing.

Thank God someone is here to defend rich women. The right rich women anyway.

Happy to do it! You can ask me anything about the “right” way to age, my people have very strong opinions.

Please tell me how to age like an NE Yankee, I am curious

OK, I will.

You develop a non-nonsense approach to life -- you get up early, you spend a chunk of the day outside, even in foul weather -- probably with dogs -- you don't mind your skin being weathered b/c it's proof you spent your life skiing, sailing and gardening. Plus your husband and all the women around you are strongly supporting this ethos. You love to walk. You even go on vacations to walk -- like rambling through the Cottwsolds for example. You believe a good brisk walk and a hot cup of tea will fix most any mood.

You don't complai. You don't get waxed, blow-outs, manicures. You don't spend money on yourself as in "self-care" unless buying a new bulb-digger to plant fall bulbs is considered self-care. Maybe you slap on some lipstick for Christmas Vespers at church.

You under no circumstances try to be sexy or trendy. You are practical and timeless in your fashion.

You focus on family, volunteer work in your community -- esp. if it's plants/garden related!, do the NYT crossword puzzle, carry on centuries old traditions like baking weird food no one actually wants, decoating and celebrating all the holidays, and most importantly embracing this stage of life as an adult women who has earned respect and dignity and is not trying to recapture her youth.

Oh and books, always be reading something that someone you respect suggested. Start your sentences with "The other day I heard on NPR . . ."

You join -- church, civic groups, tennis ladders, garden clubs, book clubs etc.

Of course what makes this all possible is that literally all of the people in my mom's social circle are the same! NPR-listening, no-nonsense, dog-loving, gardeners.

Huh. I grew up in New England, my parents still live there, and while I def see some of that "still shoveling the driveway at 90" sort of thing my mother and her friends are a lot artsier, and a lot more vain. My mom hasn't had surgery or fillers but she spends a good fortune on skincare products - and her skin looks great. She's always worn makeup and gotten manicures. She is partially disabled and we are Jewish, and she isn't going to church or spending all day outside. We do love gardening, though - you've got us there.

But wow you sure have a limited view of what "New England" women are like. I'm guessing you're from a wealthy town in Connecticut?

Actually, a wealthy town in Mass! But I am only talking about my mom and her people. Of course NE is filled with all types, but it is striking this sub-culture of NE women like my mom and her friends who seem to totally buck the current trends of long, highlighted hair, botox, fake tans, teddy clothes for older women. They seem to totally own their age.

This is also coastal Maine women.

+1 as a coastal Maine woman. The description is me other than the church stuff.

I’m the coastal Maine poster. I’m in DC right now but the minute I cross the bridge into Maine I feel my shoulders drop and I begin to breathe differently. Do you know the feeling I mean?

A Congregational or Episcopal Church can be great for community, service, and choir. Just saying! Cheers, Maine friends.

I do. Once I hit the Maine side I can smell the pine.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t think this is a “rich women” thing. Sadly women of all socioeconomic classes do this.

OTOH my mother and her friends are all “rich” women and they are aging old school NE Yankee style, grey men’s hair cuts, no makeup, turtlenecks and pearl studs. So its really more of a class than a wealth thing.

Thank God someone is here to defend rich women. The right rich women anyway.

Happy to do it! You can ask me anything about the “right” way to age, my people have very strong opinions.

Please tell me how to age like an NE Yankee, I am curious

OK, I will.

You develop a non-nonsense approach to life -- you get up early, you spend a chunk of the day outside, even in foul weather -- probably with dogs -- you don't mind your skin being weathered b/c it's proof you spent your life skiing, sailing and gardening. Plus your husband and all the women around you are strongly supporting this ethos. You love to walk. You even go on vacations to walk -- like rambling through the Cottwsolds for example. You believe a good brisk walk and a hot cup of tea will fix most any mood.

You don't complai. You don't get waxed, blow-outs, manicures. You don't spend money on yourself as in "self-care" unless buying a new bulb-digger to plant fall bulbs is considered self-care. Maybe you slap on some lipstick for Christmas Vespers at church.

You under no circumstances try to be sexy or trendy. You are practical and timeless in your fashion.

You focus on family, volunteer work in your community -- esp. if it's plants/garden related!, do the NYT crossword puzzle, carry on centuries old traditions like baking weird food no one actually wants, decoating and celebrating all the holidays, and most importantly embracing this stage of life as an adult women who has earned respect and dignity and is not trying to recapture her youth.

Oh and books, always be reading something that someone you respect suggested. Start your sentences with "The other day I heard on NPR . . ."

You join -- church, civic groups, tennis ladders, garden clubs, book clubs etc.

Of course what makes this all possible is that literally all of the people in my mom's social circle are the same! NPR-listening, no-nonsense, dog-loving, gardeners.

Huh. I grew up in New England, my parents still live there, and while I def see some of that "still shoveling the driveway at 90" sort of thing my mother and her friends are a lot artsier, and a lot more vain. My mom hasn't had surgery or fillers but she spends a good fortune on skincare products - and her skin looks great. She's always worn makeup and gotten manicures. She is partially disabled and we are Jewish, and she isn't going to church or spending all day outside. We do love gardening, though - you've got us there.

But wow you sure have a limited view of what "New England" women are like. I'm guessing you're from a wealthy town in Connecticut?

Actually, a wealthy town in Mass! But I am only talking about my mom and her people. Of course NE is filled with all types, but it is striking this sub-culture of NE women like my mom and her friends who seem to totally buck the current trends of long, highlighted hair, botox, fake tans, teddy clothes for older women. They seem to totally own their age.

This is also coastal Maine women.

+1 as a coastal Maine woman. The description is me other than the church stuff.

I’m the coastal Maine poster. I’m in DC right now but the minute I cross the bridge into Maine I feel my shoulders drop and I begin to breathe differently. Do you know the feeling I mean?

A Congregational or Episcopal Church can be great for community, service, and choir. Just saying! Cheers, Maine friends.

I do. Once I hit the Maine side I can smell the pine.

Yessss. This is me.

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As others have said, Gwen has always had work done, and she looked great. She clearly had something done recently that didn't go well. She totally looks like Cardi B!

https://www.tiktok.com/@jennihyatt39/video/7143654448529673515?is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7143654448529673515&lang=en

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Anonymous wrote:As others have said, Gwen has always had work done, and she looked great. She clearly had something done recently that didn't go well. She totally looks like Cardi B!

https://www.tiktok.com/@jennihyatt39/video/7143654448529673515?is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7143654448529673515&lang=en

Yeah, something didn't turn out right. She doesn't look like herself. I actually went and looked up the video, thinking the photo in the OP is just some weird snip of the video, but nooooo.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t think this is a “rich women” thing. Sadly women of all socioeconomic classes do this.

OTOH my mother and her friends are all “rich” women and they are aging old school NE Yankee style, grey men’s hair cuts, no makeup, turtlenecks and pearl studs. So its really more of a class than a wealth thing.

Thank God someone is here to defend rich women. The right rich women anyway.

Happy to do it! You can ask me anything about the “right” way to age, my people have very strong opinions.

Please tell me how to age like an NE Yankee, I am curious

OK, I will.

You develop a non-nonsense approach to life -- you get up early, you spend a chunk of the day outside, even in foul weather -- probably with dogs -- you don't mind your skin being weathered b/c it's proof you spent your life skiing, sailing and gardening. Plus your husband and all the women around you are strongly supporting this ethos. You love to walk. You even go on vacations to walk -- like rambling through the Cottwsolds for example. You believe a good brisk walk and a hot cup of tea will fix most any mood.

You don't complai. You don't get waxed, blow-outs, manicures. You don't spend money on yourself as in "self-care" unless buying a new bulb-digger to plant fall bulbs is considered self-care. Maybe you slap on some lipstick for Christmas Vespers at church.

You under no circumstances try to be sexy or trendy. You are practical and timeless in your fashion.

You focus on family, volunteer work in your community -- esp. if it's plants/garden related!, do the NYT crossword puzzle, carry on centuries old traditions like baking weird food no one actually wants, decoating and celebrating all the holidays, and most importantly embracing this stage of life as an adult women who has earned respect and dignity and is not trying to recapture her youth.

Oh and books, always be reading something that someone you respect suggested. Start your sentences with "The other day I heard on NPR . . ."

You join -- church, civic groups, tennis ladders, garden clubs, book clubs etc.

Of course what makes this all possible is that literally all of the people in my mom's social circle are the same! NPR-listening, no-nonsense, dog-loving, gardeners.

I love this, PP. It perfectly describes my BFF's mom. It's so fascinating because her (NE and Mid-Atlantic WASP) family is SO different from either side of my family, different from my in-laws. I know no WASPS so well. They're lovely, just SO different.

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Can you coastal Maine grannies start your own thread please?

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What has she done that makes her face look so swollen? I have friends that use fillers and they use quite a lot but don’t look like that. Would it be a very extreme face lift?

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Anonymous wrote:What has she done that makes her face look so swollen? I have friends that use fillers and they use quite a lot but don’t look like that. Would it be a very extreme face lift?

No, it's the refusal to get a face lift. It's pumping your face constantly to avoid the inevitable. Face lifts generally look great it's the fillers that are cringey.