why is russia friendly with belarus but not ukraine?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Do people actually not know the recent history of the Ukraine here? So many of you act like there wasn't some State Department coup in 2014, or that Russian speakers haven't been systematically oppressed since then. That the Ukrainian government was shelling civilians in the Donbass for the last eight years and counting.

Things you probably also are not aware of: If you speak Russian in public, they will tie you to a pole and abuse you. Opposition parties are banned in the Ukraine. Opposition media is banned in the Ukraine. Ukraine maintains a "kill list." Dugin and his daughter were on that list. Elon Musk was briefly on that list.

Why on earth would any ethnic Russian want anything to do with those psychos?


While there was a strong push to displace the Russian language from the official sphere, what you wrote is not true. A huge chunk of Ukraine speaks Russian in their daily lives, was born with it, and in fact prefers it to Ukrainian. It just isn't possible to excise a language that every other citizen of your country considers a mother tongue. They'd run out of poles on day 1.


Most of the photos are blurred, but peruse if you like:

https://twitter.com/JeremyTheGun/status/1506015407551188992

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/ukrainian-civilians-stripped-tied-up-and-beaten-by-vigilantes-in-shocking-videos/news-story/3a2abcc0a87815925dce0db9cee1c09a

You might also want to look into what happens when Ukraine takes back some territory.


Thanks for the Putin agitprop. It’s as if Russia didn’t invade and attempt to subjugate a neighboring country to seize its energy reserves, agricultural resources and industries in 2014 and again in 2022. It used a missile to blow a commercial airliner out of the sky killing 298 people. The history of mass executions m, torture, rape and other atrocities of Russians in Ukraine is just starting to be written. Spare us the sanctimonious pearl clutching. The world will be a better place with Putin hanging from the gallows.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do people actually not know the recent history of the Ukraine here? So many of you act like there wasn't some State Department coup in 2014, or that Russian speakers haven't been systematically oppressed since then. That the Ukrainian government was shelling civilians in the Donbass for the last eight years and counting.

Things you probably also are not aware of: If you speak Russian in public, they will tie you to a pole and abuse you. Opposition parties are banned in the Ukraine. Opposition media is banned in the Ukraine. Ukraine maintains a "kill list." Dugin and his daughter were on that list. Elon Musk was briefly on that list.

Why on earth would any ethnic Russian want anything to do with those psychos?


While there was a strong push to displace the Russian language from the official sphere, what you wrote is not true. A huge chunk of Ukraine speaks Russian in their daily lives, was born with it, and in fact prefers it to Ukrainian. It just isn't possible to excise a language that every other citizen of your country considers a mother tongue. They'd run out of poles on day 1.


Most of the photos are blurred, but peruse if you like:

https://twitter.com/JeremyTheGun/status/1506015407551188992

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/ukrainian-civilians-stripped-tied-up-and-beaten-by-vigilantes-in-shocking-videos/news-story/3a2abcc0a87815925dce0db9cee1c09a

You might also want to look into what happens when Ukraine takes back some territory.


The photos are terrible, and while they may cast a new light on the nature of the regime, nothing in these photos indicates they are punished for speaking Russian.


Breaking news: Ukrainians don’t like looters, saboteurs and people who support invaders who engage in war crimes and genocide.


Yes the war looks so comfortingly black and white from your comfy kitchen in Chevy Chase.


“The war.” You mean the one that Putin chose to inflict upon Ukrainians? Remarkable.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do people actually not know the recent history of the Ukraine here? So many of you act like there wasn't some State Department coup in 2014, or that Russian speakers haven't been systematically oppressed since then. That the Ukrainian government was shelling civilians in the Donbass for the last eight years and counting.

Things you probably also are not aware of: If you speak Russian in public, they will tie you to a pole and abuse you. Opposition parties are banned in the Ukraine. Opposition media is banned in the Ukraine. Ukraine maintains a "kill list." Dugin and his daughter were on that list. Elon Musk was briefly on that list.

Why on earth would any ethnic Russian want anything to do with those psychos?


While there was a strong push to displace the Russian language from the official sphere, what you wrote is not true. A huge chunk of Ukraine speaks Russian in their daily lives, was born with it, and in fact prefers it to Ukrainian. It just isn't possible to excise a language that every other citizen of your country considers a mother tongue. They'd run out of poles on day 1.


Most of the photos are blurred, but peruse if you like:

https://twitter.com/JeremyTheGun/status/1506015407551188992

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/ukrainian-civilians-stripped-tied-up-and-beaten-by-vigilantes-in-shocking-videos/news-story/3a2abcc0a87815925dce0db9cee1c09a

You might also want to look into what happens when Ukraine takes back some territory.


Thanks for the Putin agitprop. It’s as if Russia didn’t invade and attempt to subjugate a neighboring country to seize its energy reserves, agricultural resources and industries in 2014 and again in 2022. It used a missile to blow a commercial airliner out of the sky killing 298 people. The history of mass executions m, torture, rape and other atrocities of Russians in Ukraine is just starting to be written. Spare us the sanctimonious pearl clutching. The world will be a better place with Putin hanging from the gallows.


Oh honey.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do people actually not know the recent history of the Ukraine here? So many of you act like there wasn't some State Department coup in 2014, or that Russian speakers haven't been systematically oppressed since then. That the Ukrainian government was shelling civilians in the Donbass for the last eight years and counting.

Things you probably also are not aware of: If you speak Russian in public, they will tie you to a pole and abuse you. Opposition parties are banned in the Ukraine. Opposition media is banned in the Ukraine. Ukraine maintains a "kill list." Dugin and his daughter were on that list. Elon Musk was briefly on that list.

Why on earth would any ethnic Russian want anything to do with those psychos?


While there was a strong push to displace the Russian language from the official sphere, what you wrote is not true. A huge chunk of Ukraine speaks Russian in their daily lives, was born with it, and in fact prefers it to Ukrainian. It just isn't possible to excise a language that every other citizen of your country considers a mother tongue. They'd run out of poles on day 1.


Most of the photos are blurred, but peruse if you like:

https://twitter.com/JeremyTheGun/status/1506015407551188992

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/ukrainian-civilians-stripped-tied-up-and-beaten-by-vigilantes-in-shocking-videos/news-story/3a2abcc0a87815925dce0db9cee1c09a

You might also want to look into what happens when Ukraine takes back some territory.


Thanks for the Putin agitprop. It’s as if Russia didn’t invade and attempt to subjugate a neighboring country to seize its energy reserves, agricultural resources and industries in 2014 and again in 2022. It used a missile to blow a commercial airliner out of the sky killing 298 people. The history of mass executions m, torture, rape and other atrocities of Russians in Ukraine is just starting to be written. Spare us the sanctimonious pearl clutching. The world will be a better place with Putin hanging from the gallows.


They said this about Saddam once, and brought glass tubes to shake at people for dramatic effect, and then whooops before you know it, half a million Iraqis are pushing up grass. Remarkable, innit.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do people actually not know the recent history of the Ukraine here? So many of you act like there wasn't some State Department coup in 2014, or that Russian speakers haven't been systematically oppressed since then. That the Ukrainian government was shelling civilians in the Donbass for the last eight years and counting.

Things you probably also are not aware of: If you speak Russian in public, they will tie you to a pole and abuse you. Opposition parties are banned in the Ukraine. Opposition media is banned in the Ukraine. Ukraine maintains a "kill list." Dugin and his daughter were on that list. Elon Musk was briefly on that list.

Why on earth would any ethnic Russian want anything to do with those psychos?


While there was a strong push to displace the Russian language from the official sphere, what you wrote is not true. A huge chunk of Ukraine speaks Russian in their daily lives, was born with it, and in fact prefers it to Ukrainian. It just isn't possible to excise a language that every other citizen of your country considers a mother tongue. They'd run out of poles on day 1.


Most of the photos are blurred, but peruse if you like:

https://twitter.com/JeremyTheGun/status/1506015407551188992

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/ukrainian-civilians-stripped-tied-up-and-beaten-by-vigilantes-in-shocking-videos/news-story/3a2abcc0a87815925dce0db9cee1c09a

You might also want to look into what happens when Ukraine takes back some territory.


Thanks for the Putin agitprop. It’s as if Russia didn’t invade and attempt to subjugate a neighboring country to seize its energy reserves, agricultural resources and industries in 2014 and again in 2022. It used a missile to blow a commercial airliner out of the sky killing 298 people. The history of mass executions m, torture, rape and other atrocities of Russians in Ukraine is just starting to be written. Spare us the sanctimonious pearl clutching. The world will be a better place with Putin hanging from the gallows.


They said this about Saddam once, and brought glass tubes to shake at people for dramatic effect, and then whooops before you know it, half a million Iraqis are pushing up grass. Remarkable, innit.


The Leni Riefenstahl of Leningrad working hard today.
Anonymous
Comparing Saddam to Putin probably isn’t the winning argument you seem to think.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Comparing Saddam to Putin probably isn’t the winning argument you seem to think.


I'm not comparing Putin to Saddam. I'm comparing a falsehood-inspired hysteria against Saddam and the terrible consequences it visited upon Iraq to the current discourse about Putin.

But you probably think the war in Iraq is a forgivable indiscretion because it's not like the bomb came down on your own house. Half a million dead brown people, meh, who cares. Let's weep for the blue-eyed instead.
Anonymous
I’d probably think the Iraq war has almost ZERO In common with Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, and I’d be right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Comparing Saddam to Putin probably isn’t the winning argument you seem to think.


I'm not comparing Putin to Saddam. I'm comparing a falsehood-inspired hysteria against Saddam and the terrible consequences it visited upon Iraq to the current discourse about Putin.

But you probably think the war in Iraq is a forgivable indiscretion because it's not like the bomb came down on your own house. Half a million dead brown people, meh, who cares. Let's weep for the blue-eyed instead.


The war in iraq was wrong. but you obviously know two wrongs don't make a right. Just because the United States has done bad things doesn't mean that Putin isn't an idiot who should have known better and who is obviously in the wrong.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do people actually not know the recent history of the Ukraine here? So many of you act like there wasn't some State Department coup in 2014, or that Russian speakers haven't been systematically oppressed since then. That the Ukrainian government was shelling civilians in the Donbass for the last eight years and counting.

Things you probably also are not aware of: If you speak Russian in public, they will tie you to a pole and abuse you. Opposition parties are banned in the Ukraine. Opposition media is banned in the Ukraine. Ukraine maintains a "kill list." Dugin and his daughter were on that list. Elon Musk was briefly on that list.

Why on earth would any ethnic Russian want anything to do with those psychos?


While there was a strong push to displace the Russian language from the official sphere, what you wrote is not true. A huge chunk of Ukraine speaks Russian in their daily lives, was born with it, and in fact prefers it to Ukrainian. It just isn't possible to excise a language that every other citizen of your country considers a mother tongue. They'd run out of poles on day 1.


Most of the photos are blurred, but peruse if you like:

https://twitter.com/JeremyTheGun/status/1506015407551188992

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/ukrainian-civilians-stripped-tied-up-and-beaten-by-vigilantes-in-shocking-videos/news-story/3a2abcc0a87815925dce0db9cee1c09a

You might also want to look into what happens when Ukraine takes back some territory.


The photos are terrible, and while they may cast a new light on the nature of the regime, nothing in these photos indicates they are punished for speaking Russian.


You missed the part about the faces painted green then. Russian speakers get their faces painted green. Green like an "Ork." You have to read between the lines in the news article because they won't spell out to you what is happening so explicitly. One of the captions reveals that many of the people taped have had their now blurred faces painted green. If you were to visit Ukrainian sources, they are not as shy about what they are doing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Comparing Saddam to Putin probably isn’t the winning argument you seem to think.


I'm not comparing Putin to Saddam. I'm comparing a falsehood-inspired hysteria against Saddam and the terrible consequences it visited upon Iraq to the current discourse about Putin.

But you probably think the war in Iraq is a forgivable indiscretion because it's not like the bomb came down on your own house. Half a million dead brown people, meh, who cares. Let's weep for the blue-eyed instead.


The discourse concerning Russia’s status as a terrorist state which has destroyed about one-third of Ukraine’s energy infrastructure snd is abducting children to live with Russian families. The swell guy who is targeting civilian centers with Iranian made drone bombs? Nobody is excusing the actions taken in Iraq snd yet you seem to believe that the Putin regime can commit atrocities with impunity.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do people actually not know the recent history of the Ukraine here? So many of you act like there wasn't some State Department coup in 2014, or that Russian speakers haven't been systematically oppressed since then. That the Ukrainian government was shelling civilians in the Donbass for the last eight years and counting.

Things you probably also are not aware of: If you speak Russian in public, they will tie you to a pole and abuse you. Opposition parties are banned in the Ukraine. Opposition media is banned in the Ukraine. Ukraine maintains a "kill list." Dugin and his daughter were on that list. Elon Musk was briefly on that list.

Why on earth would any ethnic Russian want anything to do with those psychos?


While there was a strong push to displace the Russian language from the official sphere, what you wrote is not true. A huge chunk of Ukraine speaks Russian in their daily lives, was born with it, and in fact prefers it to Ukrainian. It just isn't possible to excise a language that every other citizen of your country considers a mother tongue. They'd run out of poles on day 1.


Most of the photos are blurred, but peruse if you like:

https://twitter.com/JeremyTheGun/status/1506015407551188992

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/ukrainian-civilians-stripped-tied-up-and-beaten-by-vigilantes-in-shocking-videos/news-story/3a2abcc0a87815925dce0db9cee1c09a

You might also want to look into what happens when Ukraine takes back some territory.


The photos are terrible, and while they may cast a new light on the nature of the regime, nothing in these photos indicates they are punished for speaking Russian.


You missed the part about the faces painted green then. Russian speakers get their faces painted green. Green like an "Ork." You have to read between the lines in the news article because they won't spell out to you what is happening so explicitly. One of the captions reveals that many of the people taped have had their now blurred faces painted green. If you were to visit Ukrainian sources, they are not as shy about what they are doing.


People in glass houses shouldn’t start wars.
Anonymous
Putin loves when his goons resort to zelyonkin attacks on critics: Navalny, Kasyanov, Metrokhin
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’d probably think the Iraq war has almost ZERO In common with Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, and I’d be right.


That's not a surprise. Everyone loves their own brand.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do people actually not know the recent history of the Ukraine here? So many of you act like there wasn't some State Department coup in 2014, or that Russian speakers haven't been systematically oppressed since then. That the Ukrainian government was shelling civilians in the Donbass for the last eight years and counting.

Things you probably also are not aware of: If you speak Russian in public, they will tie you to a pole and abuse you. Opposition parties are banned in the Ukraine. Opposition media is banned in the Ukraine. Ukraine maintains a "kill list." Dugin and his daughter were on that list. Elon Musk was briefly on that list.

Why on earth would any ethnic Russian want anything to do with those psychos?


While there was a strong push to displace the Russian language from the official sphere, what you wrote is not true. A huge chunk of Ukraine speaks Russian in their daily lives, was born with it, and in fact prefers it to Ukrainian. It just isn't possible to excise a language that every other citizen of your country considers a mother tongue. They'd run out of poles on day 1.


Most of the photos are blurred, but peruse if you like:

https://twitter.com/JeremyTheGun/status/1506015407551188992

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/ukrainian-civilians-stripped-tied-up-and-beaten-by-vigilantes-in-shocking-videos/news-story/3a2abcc0a87815925dce0db9cee1c09a

You might also want to look into what happens when Ukraine takes back some territory.


The photos are terrible, and while they may cast a new light on the nature of the regime, nothing in these photos indicates they are punished for speaking Russian.


You missed the part about the faces painted green then. Russian speakers get their faces painted green. Green like an "Ork." You have to read between the lines in the news article because they won't spell out to you what is happening so explicitly. One of the captions reveals that many of the people taped have had their now blurred faces painted green. If you were to visit Ukrainian sources, they are not as shy about what they are doing.


I can tell you that I know dozens of people from Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, Kiev, Odessa etc. and none are shy about speaking Russian. Kharkov and Odessa in particular.
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