How did you pick between MD and VA?

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Anonymous wrote:MD for sure after today

Always grasping for something to support an argument that it’s somehow desirable to live in economically stagnant MD.

VA can have an economy through the roof, it would still not be a great place to live.

Columbia MD - #2 happiest place

https://www.moneytalksnews.com/slideshows/the-happiest-cities-in-america/

Not bad for "stagnant" MD.

Money doesn't buy happiness. It can make your life comfortable, but people who chase money are usually soulless and deeply unhappy.

Used to live there- it is a bit Truman show for me because it is so planned not to mention that the McMansion farm sprawl in the surrounding area is getting out of control.

residents there seem happy, though. No VA city on the list, I noticed.

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Anonymous wrote:Maryland had more affordable housing and more parks. Now it will also have many more personal rights, so I am glad I made that decision!

NOVA can’t drive 10 minutes to get across the border? I mean usually there’s zero reason to do so, so little precedent, but c’mon…

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Anonymous wrote:MD for sure after today

Always grasping for something to support an argument that it’s somehow desirable to live in economically stagnant MD.

Interesting. An abortion restriction or ban in VA could also cause economic stagnation as employers will find that woman may not be willing to relocate or work in a state that does not allow bodily autonomy.

Not to mention the workers that will be lost in industries that are already struggling to hire and retain them. Why do you think corporations are rushing to provide 'family choice' leave and benefits to female workers? It sure ain't altruism.

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Anonymous wrote:MD for sure after today

Always grasping for something to support an argument that it’s somehow desirable to live in economically stagnant MD.

Interesting. An abortion restriction or ban in VA could also cause economic stagnation as employers will find that woman may not be willing to relocate or work in a state that does not allow bodily autonomy.

Not to mention the workers that will be lost in industries that are already struggling to hire and retain them. Why do you think corporations are rushing to provide 'family choice' leave and benefits to female workers? It sure ain't altruism.

The bam or restriction isn’t coming. The state is purple enough to swing on this issue alone.

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Anonymous wrote:I dislike using turn signals, so we chose Maryland.

+1. I enjoy reckless driving and speeding, so I too chose Maryland.

I live in NoVa but drive like I live in Maryland. Best of both states.

If you live in VA and drive terribly how is that you figure Maryland has the terrible drivers?

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I grew up in Chevy Chase MD. I would strongly advise VA all day over 2020’s MoCo. MoCo, formerly king of the DMV when I was growing up in the 90’s, is a shell of its former self economically, and I only see it getting worse as NoVa (and DC proper) steals all of the DMV’s jobs and MoCo continues to lose them.

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There seem to be a lot of Maryland residents who are secretly happy about Dobbs, because they think leaving abortion up to the states might finally give suburban Maryland some competitive advantage over NoVa.

Putting aside the irony of their actually being happy about Alito, Kavanaugh, etc, Virginia is purple enough to attract businesses but also purple enough to defeat any bill to restrict abortion rights in the state. A super-majority of voters in the state want to preserve or expand the existing state laws in this area. Even if the blue wall were to collapse in the state legislature the restrictions in Virginia would not be absolute but generally aligned with the policies in most countries in Western Europe.

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Anonymous wrote:MD for sure after today

Always grasping for something to support an argument that it’s somehow desirable to live in economically stagnant MD.

Interesting. An abortion restriction or ban in VA could also cause economic stagnation as employers will find that woman may not be willing to relocate or work in a state that does not allow bodily autonomy.

Not to mention the workers that will be lost in industries that are already struggling to hire and retain them. Why do you think corporations are rushing to provide 'family choice' leave and benefits to female workers? It sure ain't altruism.

The bam or restriction isn’t coming. The state is purple enough to swing on this issue alone.

+1 - Youngkin was elected because moderate Virginia voters noted Biden’s blunders and Terry McAuliffe was an awful candidate. A majority of voters in Virginia are not interested in turning the Commonwealth into Texas or Florida.

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I understand the emotion surrounding abortion at the moment given what’s happened, but on threads like these where people are seeking actionable advice we need to stay grounded in reality in discussing real life markets. Virginia is not going to become Missouri — if you flippantly are claiming this on here like I see some posters doing, you clearly do not understand the state or its politics.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Chevy Chase MD. I would strongly advise VA all day over 2020’s MoCo. MoCo, formerly king of the DMV when I was growing up in the 90’s, is a shell of its former self economically, and I only see it getting worse as NoVa (and DC proper) steals all of the DMV’s jobs and MoCo continues to lose them.

All the jobs can move to VA as far as I am concerned, it would still not be a good place to live.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand the emotion surrounding abortion at the moment given what’s happened, but on threads like these where people are seeking actionable advice we need to stay grounded in reality in discussing real life markets. Virginia is not going to become Missouri — if you flippantly are claiming this on here like I see some posters doing, you clearly do not understand the state or its politics.

I bet if they lowered taxes by a lot but also restrict abortion, most people would still stay in VA because most people care more about money than anything else. Lucky for Virginians you have blue MD and DC next to you. I mean.. this is what the Lovings did to escape racist VA laws. You will see people doing the same if they need "liberal" laws when they need to seek an abortion. People scoff at liberals but then seek liberal states when they need access to healthcare. Same thing happened with covid. Lots of red state covid-deniers got covid then had to go to a blue state to seek care because their red state hospitals couldn't take them in. Live in a red/purple state next to a blue state, then you can get the best of both worlds. How nice for you that blue states with their liberal policies exist for you to take advantage of. They should require wealthy red state residents to pay premium to seek abortions in blue states.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Chevy Chase MD. I would strongly advise VA all day over 2020’s MoCo. MoCo, formerly king of the DMV when I was growing up in the 90’s, is a shell of its former self economically, and I only see it getting worse as NoVa (and DC proper) steals all of the DMV’s jobs and MoCo continues to lose them.

All the jobs can move to VA as far as I am concerned, it would still not be a good place to live.

Not sure what you're smoking but (1) having a tax base and (2) not living in one of a few areas that prop up the rest of the county (in your case, MoCo) are good things.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand the emotion surrounding abortion at the moment given what’s happened, but on threads like these where people are seeking actionable advice we need to stay grounded in reality in discussing real life markets. Virginia is not going to become Missouri — if you flippantly are claiming this on here like I see some posters doing, you clearly do not understand the state or its politics.

I bet if they lowered taxes by a lot but also restrict abortion, most people would still stay in VA because most people care more about money than anything else. Lucky for Virginians you have blue MD and DC next to you. I mean.. this is what the Lovings did to escape racist VA laws. You will see people doing the same if they need "liberal" laws when they need to seek an abortion. People scoff at liberals but then seek liberal states when they need access to healthcare. Same thing happened with covid. Lots of red state covid-deniers got covid then had to go to a blue state to seek care because their red state hospitals couldn't take them in. Live in a red/purple state next to a blue state, then you can get the best of both worlds. How nice for you that blue states with their liberal policies exist for you to take advantage of. They should require wealthy red state residents to pay premium to seek abortions in blue states.

Or, maybe they'd just get their abortions within the 15-week or 20-week periods that would apply in the unlikely event - with a state Senate controlled by Democrats and elections for both chambers of the state legislation next year - that further restrictions were adopted.

In the meanwhile, enjoy your commutes from Maryland to other jurisdictions that actually have an expanding tax base and number of jobs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I understand the emotion surrounding abortion at the moment given what’s happened, but on threads like these where people are seeking actionable advice we need to stay grounded in reality in discussing real life markets. Virginia is not going to become Missouri — if you flippantly are claiming this on here like I see some posters doing, you clearly do not understand the state or its politics.

I bet if they lowered taxes by a lot but also restrict abortion, most people would still stay in VA because most people care more about money than anything else. Lucky for Virginians you have blue MD and DC next to you. I mean.. this is what the Lovings did to escape racist VA laws. You will see people doing the same if they need "liberal" laws when they need to seek an abortion. People scoff at liberals but then seek liberal states when they need access to healthcare. Same thing happened with covid. Lots of red state covid-deniers got covid then had to go to a blue state to seek care because their red state hospitals couldn't take them in. Live in a red/purple state next to a blue state, then you can get the best of both worlds. How nice for you that blue states with their liberal policies exist for you to take advantage of. They should require wealthy red state residents to pay premium to seek abortions in blue states.

Or, maybe they'd just get their abortions within the 15-week or 20-week periods that would apply in the unlikely event - with a state Senate controlled by Democrats and elections for both chambers of the state legislation next year - that further restrictions were adopted.

In the meanwhile, enjoy your commutes from Maryland to other jurisdictions that actually have an expanding tax base and number of jobs.

Or maybe a woman will miscarry post 20 weeks and need an abortion so she doesn't get sepsis. Good thing she lives close to a blue state, right?

BTW, I've been wfh for many years. So, I don't really care about commuting. I try to fly out of BWI as much as possible. NoVa traffic is horrible, and I say this as someone who lived in CA for most of my life.

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Anonymous wrote:MD for sure after today

Always grasping for something to support an argument that it’s somehow desirable to live in economically stagnant MD.

VA can have an economy through the roof, it would still not be a great place to live.

I’m a lifelong Democrat, live in NoVa and work in MD. I love living in NoVa (if I must live in the DC area). We have a park and walking trail in our backyard, plenty of space, and good county services, and plenty of useful businesses.