Plane noise

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s always someone trying to deflect from the real issue. That people should stop buying in these areas or if they do get it for cheap because you’ll pay in chronic disease, stress etc

Classic DCUM. There are no bad polices and there's never a reason to fight to improve the status quo. It's all about people who made poor choices and their problems aren't deserving of attention.

"improving the status quo" means sloughing off airplane noise to areas where people bought houses that were not in the flight path previously. Seems kinda selfish.

Not really. Dispersing the flights more would mean occasional noise for many instead of constant noise for some. Sounds more fair to me and not that disruptive toward those not affected by the noise now.

No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s always someone trying to deflect from the real issue. That people should stop buying in these areas or if they do get it for cheap because you’ll pay in chronic disease, stress etc

Classic DCUM. There are no bad polices and there's never a reason to fight to improve the status quo. It's all about people who made poor choices and their problems aren't deserving of attention.

"improving the status quo" means sloughing off airplane noise to areas where people bought houses that were not in the flight path previously. Seems kinda selfish.

Not really. Dispersing the flights more would mean occasional noise for many instead of constant noise for some. Sounds more fair to me and not that disruptive toward those not affected by the noise now.

Dispersing flights would make the airspace unnecessarily more hazardous and chaotic. The skies are already congested. Concentrating flight patterns isn't about screwing certain neighborhoods on the ground; it's all about keeping the flying public safe.

As others have said, places like the Palisades have dealt with airplane noise from DCA for decades. This isn't a new issue. Frankly, I have no sympathy for whiners who knew (or chose to ignore) that they were buying into a neighborhood that sits either adjacent to or underneath flight paths.

[Anonymous]

How can any the Palisades be worse than Old Town with regards to airplane noise. I know it’s 5:45am because that’s when the first planes start.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s always someone trying to deflect from the real issue. That people should stop buying in these areas or if they do get it for cheap because you’ll pay in chronic disease, stress etc

Classic DCUM. There are no bad polices and there's never a reason to fight to improve the status quo. It's all about people who made poor choices and their problems aren't deserving of attention.

"improving the status quo" means sloughing off airplane noise to areas where people bought houses that were not in the flight path previously. Seems kinda selfish.

Not really. Dispersing the flights more would mean occasional noise for many instead of constant noise for some. Sounds more fair to me and not that disruptive toward those not affected by the noise now.

Dispersing flights would make the airspace unnecessarily more hazardous and chaotic. The skies are already congested. Concentrating flight patterns isn't about screwing certain neighborhoods on the ground; it's all about keeping the flying public safe.

As others have said, places like the Palisades have dealt with airplane noise from DCA for decades. This isn't a new issue. Frankly, I have no sympathy for whiners who knew (or chose to ignore) that they were buying into a neighborhood that sits either adjacent to or underneath flight paths.

I would love to know who the two single people with the tens of thousands of complaints are. They do seem representative of Palisades as a whole though...buy in a flight path THEN try to change it. They think the FAA would have dozens of different flight paths throughout the day because they made a bad decision is the answer. I wonder if anybody knows just how dangerous landing at DCA already is? Adding an array of takeoffs and approaches would be sheer chaos.

[Anonymous]

Not even sure how they could “disperse” the flight paths given that there are so many restricted airspaces in the region. They can’t fly over DC itself, the Pentagon, CIA Langley, etc. They follow the river BECAUSE it’s not a restricted airspace. But even the Potomac is tough because you start crossing into the flights paths for planes going to/from IAD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How can any the Palisades be worse than Old Town with regards to airplane noise. I know it’s 5:45am because that’s when the first planes start.

It's not. It's just full of more entitled people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not even sure how they could “disperse” the flight paths given that there are so many restricted airspaces in the region. They can’t fly over DC itself, the Pentagon, CIA Langley, etc. They follow the river BECAUSE it’s not a restricted airspace. But even the Potomac is tough because you start crossing into the flights paths for planes going to/from IAD.

the flights were actually more dispersed prior to the 2015 change. They became much more concentrated then. Yes, Palisades always had the noise, but not this level of constant noise. My understanding is that they also started flying lower in 2015. This article shows the flight paths before and after Next Gen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not even sure how they could “disperse” the flight paths given that there are so many restricted airspaces in the region. They can’t fly over DC itself, the Pentagon, CIA Langley, etc. They follow the river BECAUSE it’s not a restricted airspace. But even the Potomac is tough because you start crossing into the flights paths for planes going to/from IAD.

the flights were actually more dispersed prior to the 2015 change. They became much more concentrated then. Yes, Palisades always had the noise, but not this level of constant noise. My understanding is that they also started flying lower in 2015. This article shows the flight paths before and after Next Gen.

With the link https://wamu.org/story/16/10/26/jet_noise_is_no_joke_for_residents_burned_by_report_on_airport_complaints/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can any the Palisades be worse than Old Town with regards to airplane noise. I know it’s 5:45am because that’s when the first planes start.

It's not. It's just full of more entitled people.

Just stop. You have never set foot in the Palisades. More entitled people than in Old Town. Lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s always someone trying to deflect from the real issue. That people should stop buying in these areas or if they do get it for cheap because you’ll pay in chronic disease, stress etc

Classic DCUM. There are no bad polices and there's never a reason to fight to improve the status quo. It's all about people who made poor choices and their problems aren't deserving of attention.

"improving the status quo" means sloughing off airplane noise to areas where people bought houses that were not in the flight path previously. Seems kinda selfish.

Not really. Dispersing the flights more would mean occasional noise for many instead of constant noise for some. Sounds more fair to me and not that disruptive toward those not affected by the noise now.

Dispersing flights would make the airspace unnecessarily more hazardous and chaotic. The skies are already congested. Concentrating flight patterns isn't about screwing certain neighborhoods on the ground; it's all about keeping the flying public safe.

As others have said, places like the Palisades have dealt with airplane noise from DCA for decades. This isn't a new issue. Frankly, I have no sympathy for whiners who knew (or chose to ignore) that they were buying into a neighborhood that sits either adjacent to or underneath flight paths.

I would love to know who the two single people with the tens of thousands of complaints are. They do seem representative of Palisades as a whole though...buy in a flight path THEN try to change it. They think the FAA would have dozens of different flight paths throughout the day because they made a bad decision is the answer. I wonder if anybody knows just how dangerous landing at DCA already is? Adding an array of takeoffs and approaches would be sheer chaos.

You are ignoring the fact that there was a change in 2015 that significantly affected noise levels in that area that was implemented without any real public input. Those who bought prior to that can be rightfully upset in my opinion. An "unsuspecting buyer" who purchases now after a 15 minute viewing while someone is going around with a leaf blower in the yard has only themselves to blame. All the info about the flightpaths is public and anyone can spend some time in the neighborhood to figure out whether the noise is an issue for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can any the Palisades be worse than Old Town with regards to airplane noise. I know it’s 5:45am because that’s when the first planes start.

It's not. It's just full of more entitled people.

Just stop. You have never set foot in the Palisades. More entitled people than in Old Town. Lol.

Just stop with the gaslighting. And calling people weak for not enduring absurd levels of noise and near certain chronic disease.
What I think should happen is the next generation suing the parents who were so blasé about living under a flight path. Kids don’t get to choose but are affected.

Palisades agents are the worst. It’s nothing. Have a drink… ugh

[Anonymous]

I assure you I lived in the Palisades. Could not do it now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How can any the Palisades be worse than Old Town with regards to airplane noise. I know it’s 5:45am because that’s when the first planes start.

It’s probably the same? But when I walk around Alexandria (King St) it’s not as noticeable? I don’t live there so not worried about the effects of the inevitable pollution on my health. But, honestly, how Palisades feels today is like that old movie with low flying plane and the guy having to duck for his dear life

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s always someone trying to deflect from the real issue. That people should stop buying in these areas or if they do get it for cheap because you’ll pay in chronic disease, stress etc

Classic DCUM. There are no bad polices and there's never a reason to fight to improve the status quo. It's all about people who made poor choices and their problems aren't deserving of attention.

"improving the status quo" means sloughing off airplane noise to areas where people bought houses that were not in the flight path previously. Seems kinda selfish.

Not really. Dispersing the flights more would mean occasional noise for many instead of constant noise for some. Sounds more fair to me and not that disruptive toward those not affected by the noise now.

Dispersing flights would make the airspace unnecessarily more hazardous and chaotic. The skies are already congested. Concentrating flight patterns isn't about screwing certain neighborhoods on the ground; it's all about keeping the flying public safe.

As others have said, places like the Palisades have dealt with airplane noise from DCA for decades. This isn't a new issue. Frankly, I have no sympathy for whiners who knew (or chose to ignore) that they were buying into a neighborhood that sits either adjacent to or underneath flight paths.

I would love to know who the two single people with the tens of thousands of complaints are. They do seem representative of Palisades as a whole though...buy in a flight path THEN try to change it. They think the FAA would have dozens of different flight paths throughout the day because they made a bad decision is the answer. I wonder if anybody knows just how dangerous landing at DCA already is? Adding an array of takeoffs and approaches would be sheer chaos.

You are ignoring the fact that there was a change in 2015 that significantly affected noise levels in that area that was implemented without any real public input. Those who bought prior to that can be rightfully upset in my opinion. An "unsuspecting buyer" who purchases now after a 15 minute viewing while someone is going around with a leaf blower in the yard has only themselves to blame. All the info about the flightpaths is public and anyone can spend some time in the neighborhood to figure out whether the noise is an issue for them.

That’s true. We left about then. Went back recently. Shocked. Unendurable

[Anonymous]

What shocked me is just how far North it goes. The maps are not wrong. But it’s basically Loughborough and AU. It’s the entire Palisades, Kent, Foxhall. It’s literally every 60-90 secs