Does DCPS have a plan to remediate the learning loss caused by their long-term pandemic closure?

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Anonymous wrote:They don’t care, they really don’t. They assume the kids with better off families will get private tutoring and genuinely don’t care about low income kids. That’s just how American works.

Actually not. Notice that the article says 20% of schools remained remote for the majority of last year. We’re the ones with the “severe effects.”

Most of the country had far more normal academic experiences, which makes the travesty here that much worse.

I have a 2nd grader and 5th grader in DCPS right now, and most of their classmates are caught up, despite having stayed at home all last year. I think the few who are not deserve targeted care/support, but overall, I don't see a huge learning loss. Both my kids' schools have done a lot to remediate during the year, and are offering summer programs for those who have been identified. Point being -- I think DCPS has actually done a lot. Could there be more? Of course. But I don't see some sort of unmitigated disaster.

Sure. Let’s rely on your observations of what is happening with your kids’ classmates rather than the findings of professional educational researchers who have longitudinal data from normed standardized testing. Including data that reflects what is happening in DCPS🙄 . Seriously wonder where some of you were educated. Did you even read the article?

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Anonymous wrote:They don’t care, they really don’t. They assume the kids with better off families will get private tutoring and genuinely don’t care about low income kids. That’s just how American works.

Actually not. Notice that the article says 20% of schools remained remote for the majority of last year. We’re the ones with the “severe effects.”

Most of the country had far more normal academic experiences, which makes the travesty here that much worse.

I have a 2nd grader and 5th grader in DCPS right now, and most of their classmates are caught up, despite having stayed at home all last year. I think the few who are not deserve targeted care/support, but overall, I don't see a huge learning loss. Both my kids' schools have done a lot to remediate during the year, and are offering summer programs for those who have been identified. Point being -- I think DCPS has actually done a lot. Could there be more? Of course. But I don't see some sort of unmitigated disaster.

Sure. Let’s rely on your observations of what is happening with your kids’ classmates rather than the findings of professional educational researchers who have longitudinal data from normed standardized testing. Including data that reflects what is happening in DCPS🙄 . Seriously wonder where some of you were educated. Did you even read the article?

PP clearly believes her street cred makes her a better judge of this not only than OP, but than the Harvard researchers as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly these kids will be a lost generation. They will never recover from the harm. The only thing left to do IMO is vote against any candidate that supports teacher unions, so they can’t harm yet more children.

Your solution is to cast the most vulnerable aside because you think you can vote a different system into place?

Oh, I don’t want to cast them aside. The union and administrators have already done that, though. Voting to support them is endorsing the people who have destroyed education for our most vulnerable kids and who have already and permanently case these most vulnerable kids aside.

I will never trust a union-endorsed candidate again.

This is also what’s guiding my voting now. Where did they stand on school closing?

You really have to hand it to Bowser. All she says is that she wants all the responsibility on leading education in DC. Yet, all these seemingly intelligent people are letting her off the hook for virtual learning.



So she either A) was responsible for school going and staying virtual last year or B) so weak that she couldn't stand up to a union. Either way I wouldn't want that from my mayor

The reason schools were closed so long was the teachers union. At least she fought the union. Robert White’s position is to let the teachers union decide everything.

Citation? I checked his campaign site and that policy wasn't on there.

White wanted to introduce a trigger where once a school had a certain positivity rate, it would flip to virtual. This was JANUARY of this year. Tell me how that's the better alternative.

He also listened and withdrew the bill. I appreciate a thoughtful leader who is willing to take counsel of their associates.

He withdrew it because everyone told him it was an insane proposal that would be horrendous for children and he didn’t have the votes. Hardly a magnanimous gesture.

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Anonymous wrote:They don’t care, they really don’t. They assume the kids with better off families will get private tutoring and genuinely don’t care about low income kids. That’s just how American works.

Actually not. Notice that the article says 20% of schools remained remote for the majority of last year. We’re the ones with the “severe effects.”

Most of the country had far more normal academic experiences, which makes the travesty here that much worse.

I have a 2nd grader and 5th grader in DCPS right now, and most of their classmates are caught up, despite having stayed at home all last year. I think the few who are not deserve targeted care/support, but overall, I don't see a huge learning loss. Both my kids' schools have done a lot to remediate during the year, and are offering summer programs for those who have been identified. Point being -- I think DCPS has actually done a lot. Could there be more? Of course. But I don't see some sort of unmitigated disaster.

Most teachers would strenuously disagree

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly these kids will be a lost generation. They will never recover from the harm. The only thing left to do IMO is vote against any candidate that supports teacher unions, so they can’t harm yet more children.

Your solution is to cast the most vulnerable aside because you think you can vote a different system into place?

Oh, I don’t want to cast them aside. The union and administrators have already done that, though. Voting to support them is endorsing the people who have destroyed education for our most vulnerable kids and who have already and permanently case these most vulnerable kids aside.

I will never trust a union-endorsed candidate again.

This is also what’s guiding my voting now. Where did they stand on school closing?

You really have to hand it to Bowser. All she says is that she wants all the responsibility on leading education in DC. Yet, all these seemingly intelligent people are letting her off the hook for virtual learning.

So she either A) was responsible for school going and staying virtual last year or B) so weak that she couldn't stand up to a union. Either way I wouldn't want that from my mayor

The reason schools were closed so long was the teachers union. At least she fought the union. Robert White’s position is to let the teachers union decide everything.

Citation? I checked his campaign site and that policy wasn't on there.

White wanted to introduce a trigger where once a school had a certain positivity rate, it would flip to virtual. This was JANUARY of this year. Tell me how that's the better alternative.

He also listened and withdrew the bill. I appreciate a thoughtful leader who is willing to take counsel of their associates.

Ha. No. Mendelson blocked the bill because it was filed after the deadline and he backed down.

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Here’s the bottom line. If you thought things were bad before in poorly performing schools where the majority of kids were performing below grade level, you haven’t seen anything yet. It’s going to be much worst and there is no solution in sight.

This is will just propel parents more to aggregate at the better performing charters or move or go private. DCPS will see declining numbers in student enrollment which will not help their funding situation or their goals of neighborhood school buy in from middle class families.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly these kids will be a lost generation. They will never recover from the harm. The only thing left to do IMO is vote against any candidate that supports teacher unions, so they can’t harm yet more children.

Your solution is to cast the most vulnerable aside because you think you can vote a different system into place?

Oh, I don’t want to cast them aside. The union and administrators have already done that, though. Voting to support them is endorsing the people who have destroyed education for our most vulnerable kids and who have already and permanently case these most vulnerable kids aside.

I will never trust a union-endorsed candidate again.

This is also what’s guiding my voting now. Where did they stand on school closing?

You really have to hand it to Bowser. All she says is that she wants all the responsibility on leading education in DC. Yet, all these seemingly intelligent people are letting her off the hook for virtual learning.

So she either A) was responsible for school going and staying virtual last year or B) so weak that she couldn't stand up to a union. Either way I wouldn't want that from my mayor

The reason schools were closed so long was the teachers union. At least she fought the union. Robert White’s position is to let the teachers union decide everything.

Citation? I checked his campaign site and that policy wasn't on there.

White wanted to introduce a trigger where once a school had a certain positivity rate, it would flip to virtual. This was JANUARY of this year. Tell me how that's the better alternative.

He also listened and withdrew the bill. I appreciate a thoughtful leader who is willing to take counsel of their associates.

Ha. No. Mendelson blocked the bill because it was filed after the deadline and he backed down.

You can use rhetoric if you want, but the bolded is true.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly these kids will be a lost generation. They will never recover from the harm. The only thing left to do IMO is vote against any candidate that supports teacher unions, so they can’t harm yet more children.

Your solution is to cast the most vulnerable aside because you think you can vote a different system into place?

Oh, I don’t want to cast them aside. The union and administrators have already done that, though. Voting to support them is endorsing the people who have destroyed education for our most vulnerable kids and who have already and permanently case these most vulnerable kids aside.

I will never trust a union-endorsed candidate again.

This is also what’s guiding my voting now. Where did they stand on school closing?

You really have to hand it to Bowser. All she says is that she wants all the responsibility on leading education in DC. Yet, all these seemingly intelligent people are letting her off the hook for virtual learning.

So she either A) was responsible for school going and staying virtual last year or B) so weak that she couldn't stand up to a union. Either way I wouldn't want that from my mayor

The reason schools were closed so long was the teachers union. At least she fought the union. Robert White’s position is to let the teachers union decide everything.

Citation? I checked his campaign site and that policy wasn't on there.

White wanted to introduce a trigger where once a school had a certain positivity rate, it would flip to virtual. This was JANUARY of this year. Tell me how that's the better alternative.

He also listened and withdrew the bill. I appreciate a thoughtful leader who is willing to take counsel of their associates.

Ha. No. Mendelson blocked the bill because it was filed after the deadline and he backed down.

You can use rhetoric if you want, but the bolded is true.

Wait so the guy who can't do procedure in his job correctly, and wanted to introduce a highly unpopular bill that would hurt schoolchildren and working parents is....better? Yes, that seems about right.

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Anonymous wrote:They don’t care, they really don’t. They assume the kids with better off families will get private tutoring and genuinely don’t care about low income kids. That’s just how American works.

Actually not. Notice that the article says 20% of schools remained remote for the majority of last year. We’re the ones with the “severe effects.”

Most of the country had far more normal academic experiences, which makes the travesty here that much worse.

I have a 2nd grader and 5th grader in DCPS right now, and most of their classmates are caught up, despite having stayed at home all last year. I think the few who are not deserve targeted care/support, but overall, I don't see a huge learning loss. Both my kids' schools have done a lot to remediate during the year, and are offering summer programs for those who have been identified. Point being -- I think DCPS has actually done a lot. Could there be more? Of course. But I don't see some sort of unmitigated disaster.

How in the world, as a parent, would you even know that most of your kids' classmates are caught up? Are you hearing this from your kids? From their teachers? Well, as the article states, the losses are worse than many educators are acknowledging. There is obviously still, as there has been since schools first closed, a motivation on the part of teachers (and some parents) to downplay the effects of distance learning (or blame its failure on parents, as we have also seen on this thread).

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly these kids will be a lost generation. They will never recover from the harm. The only thing left to do IMO is vote against any candidate that supports teacher unions, so they can’t harm yet more children.

Your solution is to cast the most vulnerable aside because you think you can vote a different system into place?

Oh, I don’t want to cast them aside. The union and administrators have already done that, though. Voting to support them is endorsing the people who have destroyed education for our most vulnerable kids and who have already and permanently case these most vulnerable kids aside.

I will never trust a union-endorsed candidate again.

This is also what’s guiding my voting now. Where did they stand on school closing?

You really have to hand it to Bowser. All she says is that she wants all the responsibility on leading education in DC. Yet, all these seemingly intelligent people are letting her off the hook for virtual learning.

So she either A) was responsible for school going and staying virtual last year or B) so weak that she couldn't stand up to a union. Either way I wouldn't want that from my mayor

The reason schools were closed so long was the teachers union. At least she fought the union. Robert White’s position is to let the teachers union decide everything.

Citation? I checked his campaign site and that policy wasn't on there.

White wanted to introduce a trigger where once a school had a certain positivity rate, it would flip to virtual. This was JANUARY of this year. Tell me how that's the better alternative.

He also listened and withdrew the bill. I appreciate a thoughtful leader who is willing to take counsel of their associates.

Ha. No. Mendelson blocked the bill because it was filed after the deadline and he backed down.

You can use rhetoric if you want, but the bolded is true.

First, nothing in my reply would accurately be described as rhetoric. Second, vote for him if you think he'll improve education and other aspects of life in DC. If what you want is someone willing to acknowledge Covid precautions did not appropriately balance the costs of kids being home (and continuing to be home) and who will make different decisions next time, I don't think you'll be voting in your own interest. But, you do you.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly these kids will be a lost generation. They will never recover from the harm. The only thing left to do IMO is vote against any candidate that supports teacher unions, so they can’t harm yet more children.

Your solution is to cast the most vulnerable aside because you think you can vote a different system into place?

Oh, I don’t want to cast them aside. The union and administrators have already done that, though. Voting to support them is endorsing the people who have destroyed education for our most vulnerable kids and who have already and permanently case these most vulnerable kids aside.

I will never trust a union-endorsed candidate again.

This is also what’s guiding my voting now. Where did they stand on school closing?

You really have to hand it to Bowser. All she says is that she wants all the responsibility on leading education in DC. Yet, all these seemingly intelligent people are letting her off the hook for virtual learning.

So she either A) was responsible for school going and staying virtual last year or B) so weak that she couldn't stand up to a union. Either way I wouldn't want that from my mayor

The reason schools were closed so long was the teachers union. At least she fought the union. Robert White’s position is to let the teachers union decide everything.

Citation? I checked his campaign site and that policy wasn't on there.

White wanted to introduce a trigger where once a school had a certain positivity rate, it would flip to virtual. This was JANUARY of this year. Tell me how that's the better alternative.

He also listened and withdrew the bill. I appreciate a thoughtful leader who is willing to take counsel of their associates.

Ha. No. Mendelson blocked the bill because it was filed after the deadline and he backed down.

You can use rhetoric if you want, but the bolded is true.

First, nothing in my reply would accurately be described as rhetoric. Second, vote for him if you think he'll improve education and other aspects of life in DC. If what you want is someone willing to acknowledge Covid precautions did not appropriately balance the costs of kids being home (and continuing to be home) and who will make different decisions next time, I don't think you'll be voting in your own interest. But, you do you.

I'm voting for someone who has shown a willingness to listen, adapt and learn from mistakes. Bowser still thinks shes all that bc she painted BLM on a street and refuses to admit any flaws. That's my interest.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly these kids will be a lost generation. They will never recover from the harm. The only thing left to do IMO is vote against any candidate that supports teacher unions, so they can’t harm yet more children.

Your solution is to cast the most vulnerable aside because you think you can vote a different system into place?

Oh, I don’t want to cast them aside. The union and administrators have already done that, though. Voting to support them is endorsing the people who have destroyed education for our most vulnerable kids and who have already and permanently case these most vulnerable kids aside.

I will never trust a union-endorsed candidate again.

This is also what’s guiding my voting now. Where did they stand on school closing?

You really have to hand it to Bowser. All she says is that she wants all the responsibility on leading education in DC. Yet, all these seemingly intelligent people are letting her off the hook for virtual learning.

So she either A) was responsible for school going and staying virtual last year or B) so weak that she couldn't stand up to a union. Either way I wouldn't want that from my mayor

The reason schools were closed so long was the teachers union. At least she fought the union. Robert White’s position is to let the teachers union decide everything.

Citation? I checked his campaign site and that policy wasn't on there.

White wanted to introduce a trigger where once a school had a certain positivity rate, it would flip to virtual. This was JANUARY of this year. Tell me how that's the better alternative.

He also listened and withdrew the bill. I appreciate a thoughtful leader who is willing to take counsel of their associates.

Ha. No. Mendelson blocked the bill because it was filed after the deadline and he backed down.

This is why I am voting for Mendo and not Palmer.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly these kids will be a lost generation. They will never recover from the harm. The only thing left to do IMO is vote against any candidate that supports teacher unions, so they can’t harm yet more children.

Your solution is to cast the most vulnerable aside because you think you can vote a different system into place?

Oh, I don’t want to cast them aside. The union and administrators have already done that, though. Voting to support them is endorsing the people who have destroyed education for our most vulnerable kids and who have already and permanently case these most vulnerable kids aside.

I will never trust a union-endorsed candidate again.

This is also what’s guiding my voting now. Where did they stand on school closing?

You really have to hand it to Bowser. All she says is that she wants all the responsibility on leading education in DC. Yet, all these seemingly intelligent people are letting her off the hook for virtual learning.

So she either A) was responsible for school going and staying virtual last year or B) so weak that she couldn't stand up to a union. Either way I wouldn't want that from my mayor

The reason schools were closed so long was the teachers union. At least she fought the union. Robert White’s position is to let the teachers union decide everything.

Citation? I checked his campaign site and that policy wasn't on there.

White wanted to introduce a trigger where once a school had a certain positivity rate, it would flip to virtual. This was JANUARY of this year. Tell me how that's the better alternative.

He also listened and withdrew the bill. I appreciate a thoughtful leader who is willing to take counsel of their associates.

Ha. No. Mendelson blocked the bill because it was filed after the deadline and he backed down.

You can use rhetoric if you want, but the bolded is true.

First, nothing in my reply would accurately be described as rhetoric. Second, vote for him if you think he'll improve education and other aspects of life in DC. If what you want is someone willing to acknowledge Covid precautions did not appropriately balance the costs of kids being home (and continuing to be home) and who will make different decisions next time, I don't think you'll be voting in your own interest. But, you do you.

I'm voting for someone who has shown a willingness to listen, adapt and learn from mistakes. Bowser still thinks shes all that bc she painted BLM on a street and refuses to admit any flaws. That's my interest.

Did he really learn though? Has he come out and admitted that closing schools should be off the table as a Covid mitigation?

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly these kids will be a lost generation. They will never recover from the harm. The only thing left to do IMO is vote against any candidate that supports teacher unions, so they can’t harm yet more children.

Your solution is to cast the most vulnerable aside because you think you can vote a different system into place?

Oh, I don’t want to cast them aside. The union and administrators have already done that, though. Voting to support them is endorsing the people who have destroyed education for our most vulnerable kids and who have already and permanently case these most vulnerable kids aside.

I will never trust a union-endorsed candidate again.

This is also what’s guiding my voting now. Where did they stand on school closing?

You really have to hand it to Bowser. All she says is that she wants all the responsibility on leading education in DC. Yet, all these seemingly intelligent people are letting her off the hook for virtual learning.

So she either A) was responsible for school going and staying virtual last year or B) so weak that she couldn't stand up to a union. Either way I wouldn't want that from my mayor

The reason schools were closed so long was the teachers union. At least she fought the union. Robert White’s position is to let the teachers union decide everything.

Citation? I checked his campaign site and that policy wasn't on there.

White wanted to introduce a trigger where once a school had a certain positivity rate, it would flip to virtual. This was JANUARY of this year. Tell me how that's the better alternative.

He also listened and withdrew the bill. I appreciate a thoughtful leader who is willing to take counsel of their associates.

Ha. No. Mendelson blocked the bill because it was filed after the deadline and he backed down.

You can use rhetoric if you want, but the bolded is true.

First, nothing in my reply would accurately be described as rhetoric. Second, vote for him if you think he'll improve education and other aspects of life in DC. If what you want is someone willing to acknowledge Covid precautions did not appropriately balance the costs of kids being home (and continuing to be home) and who will make different decisions next time, I don't think you'll be voting in your own interest. But, you do you.

Yep, and if you want to vote for someone deep in the pocket of developers (and who used said developer bucks to fund her million-dollar home), flouted COVID quarantine rules to go to the Biden victory party, and otherwise gives exactly zero effs about DC public schools, get on with your bad self.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly these kids will be a lost generation. They will never recover from the harm. The only thing left to do IMO is vote against any candidate that supports teacher unions, so they can’t harm yet more children.

Your solution is to cast the most vulnerable aside because you think you can vote a different system into place?

Oh, I don’t want to cast them aside. The union and administrators have already done that, though. Voting to support them is endorsing the people who have destroyed education for our most vulnerable kids and who have already and permanently case these most vulnerable kids aside.

I will never trust a union-endorsed candidate again.

This is also what’s guiding my voting now. Where did they stand on school closing?

You really have to hand it to Bowser. All she says is that she wants all the responsibility on leading education in DC. Yet, all these seemingly intelligent people are letting her off the hook for virtual learning.

So she either A) was responsible for school going and staying virtual last year or B) so weak that she couldn't stand up to a union. Either way I wouldn't want that from my mayor

The reason schools were closed so long was the teachers union. At least she fought the union. Robert White’s position is to let the teachers union decide everything.

Citation? I checked his campaign site and that policy wasn't on there.

White wanted to introduce a trigger where once a school had a certain positivity rate, it would flip to virtual. This was JANUARY of this year. Tell me how that's the better alternative.

He also listened and withdrew the bill. I appreciate a thoughtful leader who is willing to take counsel of their associates.

Ha. No. Mendelson blocked the bill because it was filed after the deadline and he backed down.

You can use rhetoric if you want, but the bolded is true.

First, nothing in my reply would accurately be described as rhetoric. Second, vote for him if you think he'll improve education and other aspects of life in DC. If what you want is someone willing to acknowledge Covid precautions did not appropriately balance the costs of kids being home (and continuing to be home) and who will make different decisions next time, I don't think you'll be voting in your own interest. But, you do you.

I'm voting for someone who has shown a willingness to listen, adapt and learn from mistakes. Bowser still thinks shes all that bc she painted BLM on a street and refuses to admit any flaws. That's my interest.

Did he really learn though? Has he come out and admitted that closing schools should be off the table as a Covid mitigation?

+1 If had learned anything he would have learned that closing schools has had tremendous consequences for schoolchildren and should not be repeated. He obviously didn't learn that lesson and wanted to repeat school closures in *January 2022*.