Does DCPS have a plan to remediate the learning loss caused by their long-term pandemic closure?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your kids have been in person the entire school year. If they are struggling get them a tutor or work with them. Summer is coming. Get some workbooks and help them.

OP here. Not sure if you are talking to me, but I didn’t post this because my kids are struggling academically. And you do realize that not everybody has the means to hire a tutor, or the ability to teach them, right? If you read the article, you would know that an enormous amount of tutoring hours will be needed to make up the losses incurred during the closures. You cannot minimize this anymore the way you have since 2020.

You do understand that none of that is going to happen, right?

Yes. That is the depressing message of the article. But at least it needs to be called out, so that maybe *something* will happen.

I also think it’s important to DC to make this known. Or it can happen again. Maybe next year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly these kids will be a lost generation. They will never recover from the harm. The only thing left to do IMO is vote against any candidate that supports teacher unions, so they can’t harm yet more children.

Your solution is to cast the most vulnerable aside because you think you can vote a different system into place?

Oh, I don’t want to cast them aside. The union and administrators have already done that, though. Voting to support them is endorsing the people who have destroyed education for our most vulnerable kids and who have already and permanently case these most vulnerable kids aside.

I will never trust a union-endorsed candidate again.

This is also what’s guiding my voting now. Where did they stand on school closing?

You really have to hand it to Bowser. All she says is that she wants all the responsibility on leading education in DC. Yet, all these seemingly intelligent people are letting her off the hook for virtual learning.

So she either A) was responsible for school going and staying virtual last year or B) so weak that she couldn't stand up to a union. Either way I wouldn't want that from my mayor

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly these kids will be a lost generation. They will never recover from the harm. The only thing left to do IMO is vote against any candidate that supports teacher unions, so they can’t harm yet more children.

Your solution is to cast the most vulnerable aside because you think you can vote a different system into place?

Oh, I don’t want to cast them aside. The union and administrators have already done that, though. Voting to support them is endorsing the people who have destroyed education for our most vulnerable kids and who have already and permanently case these most vulnerable kids aside.

I will never trust a union-endorsed candidate again.

This is also what’s guiding my voting now. Where did they stand on school closing?

You really have to hand it to Bowser. All she says is that she wants all the responsibility on leading education in DC. Yet, all these seemingly intelligent people are letting her off the hook for virtual learning.

So she either A) was responsible for school going and staying virtual last year or B) so weak that she couldn't stand up to a union. Either way I wouldn't want that from my mayor

I don't totally disagree (although there are limited options for standing up to a Union willing to shut down your schools; look at Chicago). But you have to consider the alternative. The alternative is someone who thought schools should be closed and tried to introduce legislation to make it easier to close schools *this* year. The other alternative is a racist crazy person. Bowser it is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly these kids will be a lost generation. They will never recover from the harm. The only thing left to do IMO is vote against any candidate that supports teacher unions, so they can’t harm yet more children.

Your solution is to cast the most vulnerable aside because you think you can vote a different system into place?

Oh, I don’t want to cast them aside. The union and administrators have already done that, though. Voting to support them is endorsing the people who have destroyed education for our most vulnerable kids and who have already and permanently case these most vulnerable kids aside.

I will never trust a union-endorsed candidate again.

This is also what’s guiding my voting now. Where did they stand on school closing?

You really have to hand it to Bowser. All she says is that she wants all the responsibility on leading education in DC. Yet, all these seemingly intelligent people are letting her off the hook for virtual learning.

So she either A) was responsible for school going and staying virtual last year or B) so weak that she couldn't stand up to a union. Either way I wouldn't want that from my mayor

The reason schools were closed so long was the teachers union. At least she fought the union. Robert White’s position is to let the teachers union decide everything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly these kids will be a lost generation. They will never recover from the harm. The only thing left to do IMO is vote against any candidate that supports teacher unions, so they can’t harm yet more children.

Your solution is to cast the most vulnerable aside because you think you can vote a different system into place?

Oh, I don’t want to cast them aside. The union and administrators have already done that, though. Voting to support them is endorsing the people who have destroyed education for our most vulnerable kids and who have already and permanently case these most vulnerable kids aside.

I will never trust a union-endorsed candidate again.

This is also what’s guiding my voting now. Where did they stand on school closing?

You really have to hand it to Bowser. All she says is that she wants all the responsibility on leading education in DC. Yet, all these seemingly intelligent people are letting her off the hook for virtual learning.

So she either A) was responsible for school going and staying virtual last year or B) so weak that she couldn't stand up to a union. Either way I wouldn't want that from my mayor

The reason schools were closed so long was the teachers union. At least she fought the union. Robert White’s position is to let the teachers union decide everything.

Nope. If she had the power to order people back to work in the spring, she had that some power in the fall and chose not to use it. That’s a Bowser problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly these kids will be a lost generation. They will never recover from the harm. The only thing left to do IMO is vote against any candidate that supports teacher unions, so they can’t harm yet more children.

Your solution is to cast the most vulnerable aside because you think you can vote a different system into place?

Oh, I don’t want to cast them aside. The union and administrators have already done that, though. Voting to support them is endorsing the people who have destroyed education for our most vulnerable kids and who have already and permanently case these most vulnerable kids aside.

I will never trust a union-endorsed candidate again.

This is also what’s guiding my voting now. Where did they stand on school closing?

You really have to hand it to Bowser. All she says is that she wants all the responsibility on leading education in DC. Yet, all these seemingly intelligent people are letting her off the hook for virtual learning.

So she either A) was responsible for school going and staying virtual last year or B) so weak that she couldn't stand up to a union. Either way I wouldn't want that from my mayor

The reason schools were closed so long was the teachers union. At least she fought the union. Robert White’s position is to let the teachers union decide everything.

Citation? I checked his campaign site and that policy wasn't on there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly these kids will be a lost generation. They will never recover from the harm. The only thing left to do IMO is vote against any candidate that supports teacher unions, so they can’t harm yet more children.

Your solution is to cast the most vulnerable aside because you think you can vote a different system into place?

Oh, I don’t want to cast them aside. The union and administrators have already done that, though. Voting to support them is endorsing the people who have destroyed education for our most vulnerable kids and who have already and permanently case these most vulnerable kids aside.

I will never trust a union-endorsed candidate again.

This is also what’s guiding my voting now. Where did they stand on school closing?

You really have to hand it to Bowser. All she says is that she wants all the responsibility on leading education in DC. Yet, all these seemingly intelligent people are letting her off the hook for virtual learning.

So she either A) was responsible for school going and staying virtual last year or B) so weak that she couldn't stand up to a union. Either way I wouldn't want that from my mayor

The reason schools were closed so long was the teachers union. At least she fought the union. Robert White’s position is to let the teachers union decide everything.

Citation? I checked his campaign site and that policy wasn't on there.

Yeah, I’m sure it’s not on his site

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly these kids will be a lost generation. They will never recover from the harm. The only thing left to do IMO is vote against any candidate that supports teacher unions, so they can’t harm yet more children.

Your solution is to cast the most vulnerable aside because you think you can vote a different system into place?

Oh, I don’t want to cast them aside. The union and administrators have already done that, though. Voting to support them is endorsing the people who have destroyed education for our most vulnerable kids and who have already and permanently case these most vulnerable kids aside.

I will never trust a union-endorsed candidate again.

This is also what’s guiding my voting now. Where did they stand on school closing?

You really have to hand it to Bowser. All she says is that she wants all the responsibility on leading education in DC. Yet, all these seemingly intelligent people are letting her off the hook for virtual learning.

So she either A) was responsible for school going and staying virtual last year or B) so weak that she couldn't stand up to a union. Either way I wouldn't want that from my mayor

The reason schools were closed so long was the teachers union. At least she fought the union. Robert White’s position is to let the teachers union decide everything.

Citation? I checked his campaign site and that policy wasn't on there.

White wanted to introduce a trigger where once a school had a certain positivity rate, it would flip to virtual. This was JANUARY of this year. Tell me how that's the better alternative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly these kids will be a lost generation. They will never recover from the harm. The only thing left to do IMO is vote against any candidate that supports teacher unions, so they can’t harm yet more children.

Your solution is to cast the most vulnerable aside because you think you can vote a different system into place?

Oh, I don’t want to cast them aside. The union and administrators have already done that, though. Voting to support them is endorsing the people who have destroyed education for our most vulnerable kids and who have already and permanently case these most vulnerable kids aside.

I will never trust a union-endorsed candidate again.

This is also what’s guiding my voting now. Where did they stand on school closing?

You really have to hand it to Bowser. All she says is that she wants all the responsibility on leading education in DC. Yet, all these seemingly intelligent people are letting her off the hook for virtual learning.

So she either A) was responsible for school going and staying virtual last year or B) so weak that she couldn't stand up to a union. Either way I wouldn't want that from my mayor

The reason schools were closed so long was the teachers union. At least she fought the union. Robert White’s position is to let the teachers union decide everything.

Citation? I checked his campaign site and that policy wasn't on there.

White wanted to introduce a trigger where once a school had a certain positivity rate, it would flip to virtual. This was JANUARY of this year. Tell me how that's the better alternative.

He also listened and withdrew the bill. I appreciate a thoughtful leader who is willing to take counsel of their associates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your kids have been in person the entire school year. If they are struggling get them a tutor or work with them. Summer is coming. Get some workbooks and help them.

THIS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your kids have been in person the entire school year. If they are struggling get them a tutor or work with them. Summer is coming. Get some workbooks and help them.

THIS

And another one who completely misses the point of the thread. I guess it's just over your head.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They don’t care, they really don’t. They assume the kids with better off families will get private tutoring and genuinely don’t care about low income kids. That’s just how American works.

Actually not. Notice that the article says 20% of schools remained remote for the majority of last year. We’re the ones with the “severe effects.”

Most of the country had far more normal academic experiences, which makes the travesty here that much worse.

I have a 2nd grader and 5th grader in DCPS right now, and most of their classmates are caught up, despite having stayed at home all last year. I think the few who are not deserve targeted care/support, but overall, I don't see a huge learning loss. Both my kids' schools have done a lot to remediate during the year, and are offering summer programs for those who have been identified. Point being -- I think DCPS has actually done a lot. Could there be more? Of course. But I don't see some sort of unmitigated disaster.

[Anonymous]

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Oh BUCK UP, will you?!!

Start parenting, and stop whining. No other country in the world is "remediating learning loss". Everyone is just picking up the pieces of whatever happened and working twice as hard to catch up. Why don't you do that instead of waiting for everything to be handed to you on a silver platter?

You'll be waiting a looong time, OP. Meanwhile, everyone else will pass you by.

Oh, F%CK OFF, will you?!!

Read the article, and the thread, before you jump in with your judgy venom. As I have said, this isn't about MY kids. My kids are fine. I'm not expecting any extras from DCPS for them.

This is about this whole generation of kids, and particularly the ones who were disadvantaged to begin with, which in DCPS is the majority.

And where do you get the idea that no other country is going to address learning loss? Of course, no other civilized country closed schools for as long as some areas of the US, so they have less to remediate. They also probably didn't start out with such a massive achievement gap as this country did.

I get the feeling that you are relying on this article because your kids aren't actually in a school with any disadvantaged kids. Meaning, I dont think you actually know what DCPS is doing with regards to these children specifically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Oh BUCK UP, will you?!!

Start parenting, and stop whining. No other country in the world is "remediating learning loss". Everyone is just picking up the pieces of whatever happened and working twice as hard to catch up. Why don't you do that instead of waiting for everything to be handed to you on a silver platter?

You'll be waiting a looong time, OP. Meanwhile, everyone else will pass you by.

Oh, F%CK OFF, will you?!!

Read the article, and the thread, before you jump in with your judgy venom. As I have said, this isn't about MY kids. My kids are fine. I'm not expecting any extras from DCPS for them.

This is about this whole generation of kids, and particularly the ones who were disadvantaged to begin with, which in DCPS is the majority.

And where do you get the idea that no other country is going to address learning loss? Of course, no other civilized country closed schools for as long as some areas of the US, so they have less to remediate. They also probably didn't start out with such a massive achievement gap as this country did.

I get the feeling that you are relying on this article because your kids aren't actually in a school with any disadvantaged kids. Meaning, I dont think you actually know what DCPS is doing with regards to these children specifically.

Is this supposed to be a gotcha of some sort? You are right, I don't know exactly what they are doing, that's why I'm asking. What is wrong with that? It is, however, reasonable to assume that they aren't doing enough, which will be true for most districts. Also, as the article states, even kids in schools with low numbers of disadvantaged kids lost the equivalent of 13 weeks of in person instruction. So this affects kids at our low-poverty school as well. What exactly is your point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They don’t care, they really don’t. They assume the kids with better off families will get private tutoring and genuinely don’t care about low income kids. That’s just how American works.

Actually not. Notice that the article says 20% of schools remained remote for the majority of last year. We’re the ones with the “severe effects.”

Most of the country had far more normal academic experiences, which makes the travesty here that much worse.

I have a 2nd grader and 5th grader in DCPS right now, and most of their classmates are caught up, despite having stayed at home all last year. I think the few who are not deserve targeted care/support, but overall, I don't see a huge learning loss. Both my kids' schools have done a lot to remediate during the year, and are offering summer programs for those who have been identified. Point being -- I think DCPS has actually done a lot. Could there be more? Of course. But I don't see some sort of unmitigated disaster.

You think your anecdotal observations of your kids' classmates are more valid than a research study? And do you really believe that DCPS is one of the few districts that have done a great job to catch everyone up?