Why are ethnic foods trendy now?

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Anonymous wrote:Are they claiming they created the dishes? Are they calling it American cuisine? I have my doubts, but please provide links to prove me wrong.

Look at Alison Roman with her “chickpea stew” and “gentle lentils”.

Ok. In the chickpea stew recipe, it clearly references “stews found in South India and parts of the Caribbean” right there in the first sentence.

https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1019772-spiced-chickpea-stew-with-coconut-and-turmeric

And here she is talking about the lentils and mentions the South Asian origin of dal: https://anewsletter.alisoneroman.com/p/gentle-lentils

She did not claim either as American cuisine, and did not claim to invent anything or discover a new ingredient.

Yes, but she should have called them by their traditional names.

So, for lentils and rice with some onions, every white lady **MUST** call it "mujedrah" rather than Larla's Lentils and Rice or they are canceled? Come on people, gimme a break not buying it.

Just don’t act like you invented a dish already known to civilization for thousands of years. What part of that is hard to understand?

She didn't! She mentioned South Asian dal and South Indian and Caribbean stews. She didn't claim to invent it. She didn't act like she invented it. If she had used a word from another language and it's wasn't exactly right, people would be screaming that she was "appropriating" the word dal.

And traditional name in WHICH culture? If a soup draws on traditions from three countries, which name is she supposed to use?

I get that there are real issues about who gets to be a cultural authority, and the ways in which nonwhite and white chefs are treated differently in terms of restaurants and cookbooks and the like. But people are getting pissy because a white lady doesn't call her lentil soup dal, and that's just stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:I think OP is a white person trying to provoke other white people into being outraged about "cultural appropriation".

I am Indian-American and although I grew up mostly eating Indian food, my mom would frequently put her own Indian take on food from other cultures - especially Middle Eastern and Mexican foods which were flavorful and had similar spices. I thought it was great - it expanded her own palate and ours! I still think American/Northern European-derived foods are pretty bland, so I do what I can do spice things up. Are white people offended by that?

Normal people are not offended by that. (I do think it's silly to paint all American and Northern European food as "bland," given the huge variety of food included in those two categories.) Just like I'd hope that non-white people aren't offended by white people putting their own take on foods from around the world, "authentic" or not.

I mean, I was just trying to make a point with that comment, no need to be offended by it, PP, LOl!

Thinking something is silly isn't being offended.

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Anonymous wrote:Are they claiming they created the dishes? Are they calling it American cuisine? I have my doubts, but please provide links to prove me wrong.

Look at Alison Roman with her “chickpea stew” and “gentle lentils”.

Ok. In the chickpea stew recipe, it clearly references “stews found in South India and parts of the Caribbean” right there in the first sentence.

https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1019772-spiced-chickpea-stew-with-coconut-and-turmeric

And here she is talking about the lentils and mentions the South Asian origin of dal: https://anewsletter.alisoneroman.com/p/gentle-lentils

She did not claim either as American cuisine, and did not claim to invent anything or discover a new ingredient.

Yes, but she should have called them by their traditional names.

So, for lentils and rice with some onions, every white lady **MUST** call it "mujedrah" rather than Larla's Lentils and Rice or they are canceled? Come on people, gimme a break not buying it.

Just don’t act like you invented a dish already known to civilization for thousands of years. What part of that is hard to understand?

She didn't! She mentioned South Asian dal and South Indian and Caribbean stews. She didn't claim to invent it. She didn't act like she invented it. If she had used a word from another language and it's wasn't exactly right, people would be screaming that she was "appropriating" the word dal.

And traditional name in WHICH culture? If a soup draws on traditions from three countries, which name is she supposed to use?

I get that there are real issues about who gets to be a cultural authority, and the ways in which nonwhite and white chefs are treated differently in terms of restaurants and cookbooks and the like. But people are getting pissy because a white lady doesn't call her lentil soup dal, and that's just stupid.

As many PPs have pointed out, those references were added after people complained.

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Meh..all cuisines are a combination f available ingredients and a blend of whatever cultures are traveling through the region. They are all influenced by another if you go back far enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are they claiming they created the dishes? Are they calling it American cuisine? I have my doubts, but please provide links to prove me wrong.

Look at Alison Roman with her “chickpea stew” and “gentle lentils”.

Ok. In the chickpea stew recipe, it clearly references “stews found in South India and parts of the Caribbean” right there in the first sentence.

https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1019772-spiced-chickpea-stew-with-coconut-and-turmeric

And here she is talking about the lentils and mentions the South Asian origin of dal: https://anewsletter.alisoneroman.com/p/gentle-lentils

She did not claim either as American cuisine, and did not claim to invent anything or discover a new ingredient.

Yes, but she should have called them by their traditional names.

So, for lentils and rice with some onions, every white lady **MUST** call it "mujedrah" rather than Larla's Lentils and Rice or they are canceled? Come on people, gimme a break not buying it.

Just don’t act like you invented a dish already known to civilization for thousands of years. What part of that is hard to understand?

She didn't! She mentioned South Asian dal and South Indian and Caribbean stews. She didn't claim to invent it. She didn't act like she invented it. If she had used a word from another language and it's wasn't exactly right, people would be screaming that she was "appropriating" the word dal.

And traditional name in WHICH culture? If a soup draws on traditions from three countries, which name is she supposed to use?

I get that there are real issues about who gets to be a cultural authority, and the ways in which nonwhite and white chefs are treated differently in terms of restaurants and cookbooks and the like. But people are getting pissy because a white lady doesn't call her lentil soup dal, and that's just stupid.

You are slow. She only corrected herself after she was called out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:all food is ethnic food. everyone has an ethnicity.

Thank you. I hate the term “ethnic food”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meh..all cuisines are a combination f available ingredients and a blend of whatever cultures are traveling through the region. They are all influenced by another if you go back far enough.

Another person who clearly hasn't read or engaged with the thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I look at my Instagram feed and am met with beautifully displayed and watered down versions of Asian, middle eastern and and African cuisines. The girls making these recipes are not immigrants or POC but young, white rich women who “learned to cook in their kitchen and are foodies.”

I look at their recipes and it makes me a little sick. They’re using ethnic spice mixes and combinations of sauces that have so much history and context regarding the regions of the world in which they originate. I think of how white people used to eat pb&j now eat chicken curry and Korean tacos and naan.

As a POC it bothers me that our culinary heritage is discarded while a random white American person takes the basic idea and adopts it and presents it as their own.

So frustrating!

Late to this party but get off Instagram and get over yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:As an Italian I am deeply offended that pizza is cooked all around the world using pineapple as a topping. Don’t even get me started with chicken fettucine alfredo and carbonata with heavy cream.. (insert eye roll emoji here..)

I’m not Italian but both of these ideas turn my stomach.

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Anonymous wrote:As an Italian I am deeply offended that pizza is cooked all around the world using pineapple as a topping. Don’t even get me started with chicken fettucine alfredo and carbonata with heavy cream.. (insert eye roll emoji here..)

Hey Italian, tomato is a new world fruit; are you also offended by that on pizza?

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I call troll

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Anonymous wrote:As an Italian I am deeply offended that pizza is cooked all around the world using pineapple as a topping. Don’t even get me started with chicken fettucine alfredo and carbonata with heavy cream.. (insert eye roll emoji here..)

Hey Italian, tomato is a new world fruit; are you also offended by that on pizza?

Italian PP here. Didn’t you get that my post was ironic?
After so many years in US and elsewhere I could even eat a pizza topped with snakes..

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As an Italian I am deeply offended that pizza is cooked all around the world using pineapple as a topping. Don’t even get me started with chicken fettucine alfredo and carbonata with heavy cream.. (insert eye roll emoji here..)

Hey Italian, tomato is a new world fruit; are you also offended by that on pizza?

Italian PP here. Didn’t you get that my post was ironic?
After so many years in US and elsewhere I could even eat a pizza topped with snakes..

Python to be precise..

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/02/04/python-pizza_n_4725590.html