New Youngkin ad starring a parent who wanted Toni Morrison's 'Beloved' removed from schools because

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Why are the "reservations" of culturally conservative parents any more important than the "reservations" of other parents? Why are concerns about sexually explicit materials more valid than other types of concerns?

If parents can demand that books are banned because they object to the sexual content, then why can't books also be banned at the behest of parents who object to the promotion of Christianity, a sympathetic depiction of confederate soldiers, etc?

Maybe parents should be able to opt out of any part of the school curriculum they want for whatever reason they want and leave it at that.


This is a horrifying idea.

Are you ok with parents "opting out" their children from the earth science curriculum because they believe the earth is flat? How about from the US history curriculum because they believe it glorifies violence? Or from the music/PE curriculum because they believe that music and dancing are blasphemous?

If you want that kind of personal control over your child's curriculum, you need to homeschool.


+1 I feel like Dems are missing some messaging on this point. Basically Republicans like Youngkin want to give the must lunatic, MAGA-head parents control over what kids learn in schools. It's not that "parents" get to guide the curriculum (or masking policies) - it's that THESE parents will get to do it. And do you really want your kids' education in THESE lunatics' hands?

They should homeschool or send to some like-minded private school if they want more say over what their kids will learn. I would be terrified if I had kids in public school, that these insane people might be the ones making policy there.


Agreed. What McAuliffe said was that parent shouldn’t be dictating what schools teach. There is a board of education to decide what the curriculum should be, and school administrators to decide how it should be implemented. They are the education experts, not random parents who saw something inflammatory on the internet. Parents can have an input by providing feedback to administrators, but that doesn’t mean they will always get their way. Nonetheless, there are Virginia regulations providing parents options to opt their children out of certain lessons/materials that he parents object to, and parents can homeschool or find a like-minded private school if they want even more control over their kids’ education. That is how a school system is properly run, not extremists screaming during school board meetings about banning books.


Yeah but that answer doesn't get people fired up. The answer that Youngkin is going to turn over your kids' educations to these people (then show a compilation video of the lunatics screaming at school board meetings) if we don't GOTV - I think that would be pretty energizing. Maybe help people who are thinking of sitting this out not sit this out.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Why are the "reservations" of culturally conservative parents any more important than the "reservations" of other parents? Why are concerns about sexually explicit materials more valid than other types of concerns?

If parents can demand that books are banned because they object to the sexual content, then why can't books also be banned at the behest of parents who object to the promotion of Christianity, a sympathetic depiction of confederate soldiers, etc?

Maybe parents should be able to opt out of any part of the school curriculum they want for whatever reason they want and leave it at that.


This is a horrifying idea.

Are you ok with parents "opting out" their children from the earth science curriculum because they believe the earth is flat? How about from the US history curriculum because they believe it glorifies violence? Or from the music/PE curriculum because they believe that music and dancing are blasphemous?

If you want that kind of personal control over your child's curriculum, you need to homeschool.


+1 I feel like Dems are missing some messaging on this point. Basically Republicans like Youngkin want to give the must lunatic, MAGA-head parents control over what kids learn in schools. It's not that "parents" get to guide the curriculum (or masking policies) - it's that THESE parents will get to do it. And do you really want your kids' education in THESE lunatics' hands?

They should homeschool or send to some like-minded private school if they want more say over what their kids will learn. I would be terrified if I had kids in public school, that these insane people might be the ones making policy there.


Agreed. What McAuliffe said was that parent shouldn’t be dictating what schools teach. There is a board of education to decide what the curriculum should be, and school administrators to decide how it should be implemented. They are the education experts, not random parents who saw something inflammatory on the internet. Parents can have an input by providing feedback to administrators, but that doesn’t mean they will always get their way. Nonetheless, there are Virginia regulations providing parents options to opt their children out of certain lessons/materials that he parents object to, and parents can homeschool or find a like-minded private school if they want even more control over their kids’ education. That is how a school system is properly run, not extremists screaming during school board meetings about banning books.


Tell the “education experts” to keep those perversive books to themselves. This is not about politics, this is about common sense and growing healthy minds. We don’t need extremes to educate our children. The school system needs a reform.
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I've looked at Youngkin's website, and I can't find any concrete plans for what he's going to do. For a guy who ran the Carlyle Group, I'm surprised he presents no specifics, no numbers, no actual policy proposals for anything.

As far as I can tell, he supports Donald Trump, "stop the steal" lies, and book banning. I'm going to be so sad if this guy is elected our Governor.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Why are the "reservations" of culturally conservative parents any more important than the "reservations" of other parents? Why are concerns about sexually explicit materials more valid than other types of concerns?

If parents can demand that books are banned because they object to the sexual content, then why can't books also be banned at the behest of parents who object to the promotion of Christianity, a sympathetic depiction of confederate soldiers, etc?

Maybe parents should be able to opt out of any part of the school curriculum they want for whatever reason they want and leave it at that.


This is a horrifying idea.

Are you ok with parents "opting out" their children from the earth science curriculum because they believe the earth is flat? How about from the US history curriculum because they believe it glorifies violence? Or from the music/PE curriculum because they believe that music and dancing are blasphemous?

If you want that kind of personal control over your child's curriculum, you need to homeschool.


+1 I feel like Dems are missing some messaging on this point. Basically Republicans like Youngkin want to give the must lunatic, MAGA-head parents control over what kids learn in schools. It's not that "parents" get to guide the curriculum (or masking policies) - it's that THESE parents will get to do it. And do you really want your kids' education in THESE lunatics' hands?

They should homeschool or send to some like-minded private school if they want more say over what their kids will learn. I would be terrified if I had kids in public school, that these insane people might be the ones making policy there.


Agreed. What McAuliffe said was that parent shouldn’t be dictating what schools teach. There is a board of education to decide what the curriculum should be, and school administrators to decide how it should be implemented. They are the education experts, not random parents who saw something inflammatory on the internet. Parents can have an input by providing feedback to administrators, but that doesn’t mean they will always get their way. Nonetheless, there are Virginia regulations providing parents options to opt their children out of certain lessons/materials that he parents object to, and parents can homeschool or find a like-minded private school if they want even more control over their kids’ education. That is how a school system is properly run, not extremists screaming during school board meetings about banning books.


Tell the “education experts” to keep those perversive books to themselves. This is not about politics, this is about common sense and growing healthy minds. We don’t need extremes to educate our children. The school system needs a reform.


Which “perversive” books on the curriculum do you object to?
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Anonymous wrote:I've looked at Youngkin's website, and I can't find any concrete plans for what he's going to do. For a guy who ran the Carlyle Group, I'm surprised he presents no specifics, no numbers, no actual policy proposals for anything.

As far as I can tell, he supports Donald Trump, "stop the steal" lies, and book banning. I'm going to be so sad if this guy is elected our Governor.


Why surprised? The lack of specifics, numbers, and actual policy proposals is a feature, not a bug, for his campaign.
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Anonymous wrote:I've looked at Youngkin's website, and I can't find any concrete plans for what he's going to do. For a guy who ran the Carlyle Group, I'm surprised he presents no specifics, no numbers, no actual policy proposals for anything.

As far as I can tell, he supports Donald Trump, "stop the steal" lies, and book banning. I'm going to be so sad if this guy is elected our Governor.



He has said that he can’t share his plans because he’ll risk losing “independent votes”.

The dude is evangelical Christian AF.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've looked at Youngkin's website, and I can't find any concrete plans for what he's going to do. For a guy who ran the Carlyle Group, I'm surprised he presents no specifics, no numbers, no actual policy proposals for anything.

As far as I can tell, he supports Donald Trump, "stop the steal" lies, and book banning. I'm going to be so sad if this guy is elected our Governor.



He has said that he can’t share his plans because he’ll risk losing “independent votes”.

The dude is evangelical Christian AF.


Yeah, he's on board with banning abortion too. And he's no friend of Planned Parenthood, whose work distributing birth control prevents tens of thousands of unwanted pregnancies every year.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Why are the "reservations" of culturally conservative parents any more important than the "reservations" of other parents? Why are concerns about sexually explicit materials more valid than other types of concerns?

If parents can demand that books are banned because they object to the sexual content, then why can't books also be banned at the behest of parents who object to the promotion of Christianity, a sympathetic depiction of confederate soldiers, etc?

Maybe parents should be able to opt out of any part of the school curriculum they want for whatever reason they want and leave it at that.


This is a horrifying idea.

Are you ok with parents "opting out" their children from the earth science curriculum because they believe the earth is flat? How about from the US history curriculum because they believe it glorifies violence? Or from the music/PE curriculum because they believe that music and dancing are blasphemous?

If you want that kind of personal control over your child's curriculum, you need to homeschool.


+1 I feel like Dems are missing some messaging on this point. Basically Republicans like Youngkin want to give the must lunatic, MAGA-head parents control over what kids learn in schools. It's not that "parents" get to guide the curriculum (or masking policies) - it's that THESE parents will get to do it. And do you really want your kids' education in THESE lunatics' hands?

They should homeschool or send to some like-minded private school if they want more say over what their kids will learn. I would be terrified if I had kids in public school, that these insane people might be the ones making policy there.


Agreed. What McAuliffe said was that parent shouldn’t be dictating what schools teach. There is a board of education to decide what the curriculum should be, and school administrators to decide how it should be implemented. They are the education experts, not random parents who saw something inflammatory on the internet. Parents can have an input by providing feedback to administrators, but that doesn’t mean they will always get their way. Nonetheless, there are Virginia regulations providing parents options to opt their children out of certain lessons/materials that he parents object to, and parents can homeschool or find a like-minded private school if they want even more control over their kids’ education. That is how a school system is properly run, not extremists screaming during school board meetings about banning books.


Tell the “education experts” to keep those perversive books to themselves. This is not about politics, this is about common sense and growing healthy minds. We don’t need extremes to educate our children. The school system needs a reform.


Which “perversive” books on the curriculum do you object to?


There are many, including one that my kid’s 4th grade teacher gave as a “present”. The content was full of trashing messages towards a mother. In the story, the main character’s mother had 4-5 boyfriends at the same time.

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There are many, including one that my kid’s 4th grade teacher gave as a “present”. The content was full of trashing messages towards a mother. In the story, the main character’s mother had 4-5 boyfriends at the same time.



Was it a copy of Grimms' Fairy Tales?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Why are the "reservations" of culturally conservative parents any more important than the "reservations" of other parents? Why are concerns about sexually explicit materials more valid than other types of concerns?

If parents can demand that books are banned because they object to the sexual content, then why can't books also be banned at the behest of parents who object to the promotion of Christianity, a sympathetic depiction of confederate soldiers, etc?

Maybe parents should be able to opt out of any part of the school curriculum they want for whatever reason they want and leave it at that.


This is a horrifying idea.

Are you ok with parents "opting out" their children from the earth science curriculum because they believe the earth is flat? How about from the US history curriculum because they believe it glorifies violence? Or from the music/PE curriculum because they believe that music and dancing are blasphemous?

If you want that kind of personal control over your child's curriculum, you need to homeschool.


+1 I feel like Dems are missing some messaging on this point. Basically Republicans like Youngkin want to give the must lunatic, MAGA-head parents control over what kids learn in schools. It's not that "parents" get to guide the curriculum (or masking policies) - it's that THESE parents will get to do it. And do you really want your kids' education in THESE lunatics' hands?

They should homeschool or send to some like-minded private school if they want more say over what their kids will learn. I would be terrified if I had kids in public school, that these insane people might be the ones making policy there.


Agreed. What McAuliffe said was that parent shouldn’t be dictating what schools teach. There is a board of education to decide what the curriculum should be, and school administrators to decide how it should be implemented. They are the education experts, not random parents who saw something inflammatory on the internet. Parents can have an input by providing feedback to administrators, but that doesn’t mean they will always get their way. Nonetheless, there are Virginia regulations providing parents options to opt their children out of certain lessons/materials that he parents object to, and parents can homeschool or find a like-minded private school if they want even more control over their kids’ education. That is how a school system is properly run, not extremists screaming during school board meetings about banning books.


Tell the “education experts” to keep those perversive books to themselves. This is not about politics, this is about common sense and growing healthy minds. We don’t need extremes to educate our children. The school system needs a reform.


Which “perversive” books on the curriculum do you object to?


There are many, including one that my kid’s 4th grade teacher gave as a “present”. The content was full of trashing messages towards a mother. In the story, the main character’s mother had 4-5 boyfriends at the same time.



Better keep your kid away from the Bible then. Few books have more "perversive" stories than the Bible. (Lot's daughters, anyone?)
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Why are the "reservations" of culturally conservative parents any more important than the "reservations" of other parents? Why are concerns about sexually explicit materials more valid than other types of concerns?

If parents can demand that books are banned because they object to the sexual content, then why can't books also be banned at the behest of parents who object to the promotion of Christianity, a sympathetic depiction of confederate soldiers, etc?

Maybe parents should be able to opt out of any part of the school curriculum they want for whatever reason they want and leave it at that.


This is a horrifying idea.

Are you ok with parents "opting out" their children from the earth science curriculum because they believe the earth is flat? How about from the US history curriculum because they believe it glorifies violence? Or from the music/PE curriculum because they believe that music and dancing are blasphemous?

If you want that kind of personal control over your child's curriculum, you need to homeschool.


+1 I feel like Dems are missing some messaging on this point. Basically Republicans like Youngkin want to give the must lunatic, MAGA-head parents control over what kids learn in schools. It's not that "parents" get to guide the curriculum (or masking policies) - it's that THESE parents will get to do it. And do you really want your kids' education in THESE lunatics' hands?

They should homeschool or send to some like-minded private school if they want more say over what their kids will learn. I would be terrified if I had kids in public school, that these insane people might be the ones making policy there.


Agreed. What McAuliffe said was that parent shouldn’t be dictating what schools teach. There is a board of education to decide what the curriculum should be, and school administrators to decide how it should be implemented. They are the education experts, not random parents who saw something inflammatory on the internet. Parents can have an input by providing feedback to administrators, but that doesn’t mean they will always get their way. Nonetheless, there are Virginia regulations providing parents options to opt their children out of certain lessons/materials that he parents object to, and parents can homeschool or find a like-minded private school if they want even more control over their kids’ education. That is how a school system is properly run, not extremists screaming during school board meetings about banning books.


Tell the “education experts” to keep those perversive books to themselves. This is not about politics, this is about common sense and growing healthy minds. We don’t need extremes to educate our children. The school system needs a reform.


Which “perversive” books on the curriculum do you object to?


There are many, including one that my kid’s 4th grade teacher gave as a “present”. The content was full of trashing messages towards a mother. In the story, the main character’s mother had 4-5 boyfriends at the same time.



What was the title?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

There are many, including one that my kid’s 4th grade teacher gave as a “present”. The content was full of trashing messages towards a mother. In the story, the main character’s mother had 4-5 boyfriends at the same time.



Was it a copy of Grimms' Fairy Tales?


I’m not a book banner but now that we’re complaining: I don’t like Disney movies. So much strife between adult woman and young girl. The good mother is always dead. Does Youngkin have a plan to help me?
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Damn I wish I was in Virginia!
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Some other options, too. I don't think I've read the Bluest Eye. Maybe I should stop by for a copy.

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