Toilet rails vs bedside commode

[Anonymous]

Need something like a bedside commode to go over the toilet but parent doesn’t like the commode seat so I think I’m just looking for toilet rails. There are different styles and I don’t know what’s safe since some connect to the toilet seats and some don’t. Not sure if that’s necessary. We were told that a walker is not safe to use for that purpose so worry that some of these may also not be stable enough. Does anyone have any recommendations for easy but sturdy toilet rails I can order off Amazon?

[Anonymous]

Vive Toilet Safety Rail - Adjustable Grab Bar - Compact Support Frame with Handrail for Bathroom Toilet Seat - Easy Installation for Handicap Senior Bariatrics, Elderly Balance - Padded Hand Armrest https://a.co/d/6rhv2eO


You need something like this or something attached to the wall. Something free standing is way too likely to become unstable with someone's weight on it (why they don't suggest walkers)

[Anonymous]

Get a referral from the doctor to VNA for an OT to do a home safety assessment. They can make recommendations for toileting, bed rails, grab bars, and more

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Get a referral from the doctor to VNA for an OT to do a home safety assessment. They can make recommendations for toileting, bed rails, grab bars, and more

This. For example, your parents may also want an insert that raises the height of the toilet seat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Get a referral from the doctor to VNA for an OT to do a home safety assessment. They can make recommendations for toileting, bed rails, grab bars, and more

2nd this. My folks had one. They actually ended up having a taller toilet installed-it wasn't that expensive and the existing toilet was low, and not water efficient. Plus, they had rails installed attached to the studs so they're very sturdy. They absolutely did NOT want a bedside commode.

[Anonymous]

The commodes are the worst.
+1 to suggestion about having an OT in to get the right kind of support bars. Also +1 to getting a higher toilet. Also consider getting a bidet seat installed--it is much better for everyone.

[Anonymous]

Have a plumber install a taller toilet. It is not much money. Get physical therapist to make suggestions for the toilet rails or grab bars for the wall. The PCP can prescribe one to come out to the house.

[Anonymous]

OT is excellent idea. Our toilets are not next to walls so permanent grab bars not an option. I had knee replacements. Got taller toilet and used the commode bars alongside toilet. You don't have to use the seat on some brands. I was in my 60s and in pretty good shape other than knees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OT is excellent idea. Our toilets are not next to walls so permanent grab bars not an option. I had knee replacements. Got taller toilet and used the commode bars alongside toilet. You don't have to use the seat on some brands. I was in my 60s and in pretty good shape other than knees.

There are bars that flip down from the wall behind the toilet.

[Anonymous]

+1 to OT guidance and taller toilet.

And a good bidet seat. Difficulty managing toileting is a huge strain on caregivers and elders. It’s also often one of the major obstacles to aging in place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OT is excellent idea. Our toilets are not next to walls so permanent grab bars not an option. I had knee replacements. Got taller toilet and used the commode bars alongside toilet. You don't have to use the seat on some brands. I was in my 60s and in pretty good shape other than knees.

There are bars that flip down from the wall behind the toilet.

Yeah well nice if you can do that. My toilet id ticked under a banjo top counter with a mirror on the wall. Not everyone has non-tiny bathrooms.
Sure wall bars are first choice but there are safe second choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OT is excellent idea. Our toilets are not next to walls so permanent grab bars not an option. I had knee replacements. Got taller toilet and used the commode bars alongside toilet. You don't have to use the seat on some brands. I was in my 60s and in pretty good shape other than knees.

There are bars that flip down from the wall behind the toilet.

Yeah well nice if you can do that. My toilet id ticked under a banjo top counter with a mirror on the wall. Not everyone has non-tiny bathrooms.
Sure wall bars are first choice but there are safe second choices.

Sorry to sound/be argumentative.
My point is just that some have bathrooms different from modern homes and if there are not suitable walls, you don't have to sh#t by your bed. There ARE commode that can have bucket removed and fit over toilet in tight-fitting areas. A PT, OT, or knowledgeable supply place like Preston's can advise. Measure space first.

[Anonymous]

I ordered this for my mother for when she was recovering from spinal surgery (and generally, she still uses it). Her bathroom is very small and there's no room for grab bars on the wall (and the other side is the sink/cabinet).

https://a.co/d/bN4q9Qp

The maintenance guy installed it for her and it was a piece of cake. It's also easy to keep both the seat and the toilet clean. It both raises the toilet and provides sturdy grab bars, so there was no need for a new, tall toilet (and as I said bars wouldn't have worked anyway).

[Anonymous]

Highly recommend a new tall toilet. It will be sturdier than anything aftermarket.

You can pick up some side rails from Amazon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I ordered this for my mother for when she was recovering from spinal surgery (and generally, she still uses it). Her bathroom is very small and there's no room for grab bars on the wall (and the other side is the sink/cabinet).

https://a.co/d/bN4q9Qp

The maintenance guy installed it for her and it was a piece of cake. It's also easy to keep both the seat and the toilet clean. It both raises the toilet and provides sturdy grab bars, so there was no need for a new, tall toilet (and as I said bars wouldn't have worked anyway).

We have something similar and it works great.