This is disturbing: new study shows changes in brain connections and function after just a single season of football

[Anonymous]

Yet more evidence contact sports like football appear to be a terrible idea for youth:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-51688-2


How are parents still mentally justifying their kids playing football? It’s funny how parents would prevent their young kid from watching a rated R movie filled with violence and sex, but they have no issues at all exposing their children to a sport where evidence mounts by the day that they’re scrambling their brains. Gross.

[Anonymous]

fMRI showed that dead salmon responded to stimulus https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/scicurious-brain/ignobel-prize-in-neuroscience-the-dead-salmon-study/

[Anonymous]

The study showed the effect were remedied post season. The recommendation is for a break after an event (or a season). This shows the brain heals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The study showed the effect were remedied post season. The recommendation is for a break after an event (or a season). This shows the brain heals.

lol, that’s your take away? How about not injuring it in the first place? This study also doesn’t know if healing ability wanes over time because of repeated trauma from season to season.

[Anonymous]

I’m very against football. But I’d like similar studies does for other youth sports like soccer and hockey. I’m sure it’s not as bad as football but I’d like to know how bad it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:fMRI showed that dead salmon responded to stimulus https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/scicurious-brain/ignobel-prize-in-neuroscience-the-dead-salmon-study/

Did you even read your own article from almost 12 years ago? It doesn’t say fMRI is bad, it just says that researchers need to be careful about handling the data that comes out of such studies and making sure they nude the correct statistical analysis. The nature paper with the new data from football players was well controlled and analyzed the data just fine.


Not sure what point you’re trying to make…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:fMRI showed that dead salmon responded to stimulus https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/scicurious-brain/ignobel-prize-in-neuroscience-the-dead-salmon-study/

Did you even read your own article from almost 12 years ago? It doesn’t say fMRI is bad, it just says that researchers need to be careful about handling the data that comes out of such studies and making sure they nude the correct statistical analysis. The nature paper with the new data from football players was well controlled and analyzed the data just fine.


Not sure what point you’re trying to make…

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[Anonymous]

I honestly don’t understand how anyone can enjoy watching it while knowing that nearly everyone on the field is suffering this kind of brain damage. It’s messed up.

[Anonymous]

It's this whole weird culture (in the south, mostly) where it's a lifestyle and the kids are sacrificial lambs. At the end of this news story many of the parents still say yes I'd let my kid play: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/11/16/us/cte-youth-football.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m very against football. But I’d like similar studies does for other youth sports like soccer and hockey. I’m sure it’s not as bad as football but I’d like to know how bad it is.

Soccer is almost as bad as football when it comes to head injuries, concussions, CTE among advanced players. Girls soccer in high school has a similar rate of head injuries to boys football in high school.

Any contact sport has a risk of head injuries, hockey, lacrosse, soccer, football.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The study showed the effect were remedied post season. The recommendation is for a break after an event (or a season). This shows the brain heals.

This study from Johns Hopkins, however, has shown that in ex-football players a brain repair protein known as TSPO remains elevated for years after they stop playing and that players' learning and cognition is affected even after they quit.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2811069


I think it is obvious at this point that football damages the brain and can make you stupid. It's just like getting punched in the head thousands of times per week with all of the practices and games.

Still mind blowing parents will let their small children and adolescent kids play the game no matter how much data comes out showing it is hurting their brains.

[Anonymous]

I was going to ignore this thread as the uninformed unthinking internet post that blankets social media. But it’s so ignorant that against my better judgement I decided to respond.

1. It turns out that many sports and activities damage the brain.

Soccer- https://www.columbiaradiology.org/news/soccer-heading-linked-measurable-decline-brain-function#:~:text=A%20new%20study%20at%20Columbia,over%20a%20two%2Dyear%20period.

Gymnastics - https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-06-07/womens-gymnastics-brings-high-risk-for-concussion

Basketball- https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/basketball-concussions-a-risk-in-contact-sports-not-just-football/

Etc.

2. More to the point - bran injury fears are a distraction from the real health problems confronting children which are inactivity, obesity, and diabetes.

See https://mottpoll.org/reports-surveys/top-10-child-health-concerns-exercise-obesity-smoking-lead-list

3. The thing I hate most about post like this are the people who post them. They’re usually either well meaning people who saw a link and have a flash reaction which they immediately post on a board or they’re a culture warrior who see themselves as a paladin for what is good and right.

To the OP if you’re the former- think before you post. But if you’re the latter take a big step back and f**k your own face.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m very against football. But I’d like similar studies does for other youth sports like soccer and hockey. I’m sure it’s not as bad as football but I’d like to know how bad it is.

Soccer is almost as bad as football when it comes to head injuries, concussions, CTE among advanced players. Girls soccer in high school has a similar rate of head injuries to boys football in high school.

Any contact sport has a risk of head injuries, hockey, lacrosse, soccer, football.

You know, you can tell your kid not to head the ball in soccer. We did. The only time someone should ever head the ball is to score a goal or save a goal. Other than that, they should be controlling the ball. The games should be modified. I’m all for flag football.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was going to ignore this thread as the uninformed unthinking internet post that blankets social media. But it’s so ignorant that against my better judgement I decided to respond.

1. It turns out that many sports and activities damage the brain.

Soccer- https://www.columbiaradiology.org/news/soccer-heading-linked-measurable-decline-brain-function#:~:text=A%20new%20study%20at%20Columbia,over%20a%20two%2Dyear%20period.

Gymnastics - https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-06-07/womens-gymnastics-brings-high-risk-for-concussion

Basketball- https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/basketball-concussions-a-risk-in-contact-sports-not-just-football/

Etc.

2. More to the point - bran injury fears are a distraction from the real health problems confronting children which are inactivity, obesity, and diabetes.

See https://mottpoll.org/reports-surveys/top-10-child-health-concerns-exercise-obesity-smoking-lead-list

3. The thing I hate most about post like this are the people who post them. They’re usually either well meaning people who saw a link and have a flash reaction which they immediately post on a board or they’re a culture warrior who see themselves as a paladin for what is good and right.

To the OP if you’re the former- think before you post. But if you’re the latter take a big step back and f**k your own face.

You're the personification of Dunning Kruger.

If you had kept up with any of the evidence, it's not just concussions that are the problem. It's the subconcussive forces that occur on almost every play in football that are believed to cause long term injury and CTE.

It may be true that there are similar rates of concussions between football and soccer, but the the incidence of those isn't what matters. There is ahuge difference in the number of collisions they occur while playing those sports even if they don't result in concussions. It's not even debatable a football playing kid wl be getting hit a lot more than a soccer player. They have even found CTE in young people who've done nothing more than play high school football and were never even diagnosed with a concussion in their lives.

This is like a post from some obese, bbq eating, gun toting moron from Texas obsessed with Friday night lights. All you got are weak whataboutisms to justify your terrible parenting decisions to f*** up your kid's brain.

I love how actually citing studies from Jama and Nature (some of the most premiere scientific journals on the planet) is 'uninformed thinking'. It's really hard to tell if you at too many paint chips as a kid or played too much football. If you're worried about childhood obesity and diabetes, they can simply run track or play tennis, lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was going to ignore this thread as the uninformed unthinking internet post that blankets social media. But it’s so ignorant that against my better judgement I decided to respond.

1. It turns out that many sports and activities damage the brain.

Soccer- https://www.columbiaradiology.org/news/soccer-heading-linked-measurable-decline-brain-function#:~:text=A%20new%20study%20at%20Columbia,over%20a%20two%2Dyear%20period.

Gymnastics - https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-06-07/womens-gymnastics-brings-high-risk-for-concussion

Basketball- https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/basketball-concussions-a-risk-in-contact-sports-not-just-football/

Etc.

2. More to the point - bran injury fears are a distraction from the real health problems confronting children which are inactivity, obesity, and diabetes.

See https://mottpoll.org/reports-surveys/top-10-child-health-concerns-exercise-obesity-smoking-lead-list

3. The thing I hate most about post like this are the people who post them. They’re usually either well meaning people who saw a link and have a flash reaction which they immediately post on a board or they’re a culture warrior who see themselves as a paladin for what is good and right.

To the OP if you’re the former- think before you post. But if you’re the latter take a big step back and f**k your own face.

You're the personification of Dunning Kruger.

If you had kept up with any of the evidence, it's not just concussions that are the problem. It's the subconcussive forces that occur on almost every play in football that are believed to cause long term injury and CTE.

It may be true that there are similar rates of concussions between football and soccer, but the the incidence of those isn't what matters. There is ahuge difference in the number of collisions they occur while playing those sports even if they don't result in concussions. It's not even debatable a football playing kid wl be getting hit a lot more than a soccer player. They have even found CTE in young people who've done nothing more than play high school football and were never even diagnosed with a concussion in their lives.

This is like a post from some obese, bbq eating, gun toting moron from Texas obsessed with Friday night lights. All you got are weak whataboutisms to justify your terrible parenting decisions to f*** up your kid's brain.

I love how actually citing studies from Jama and Nature (some of the most premiere scientific journals on the planet) is 'uninformed thinking'. It's really hard to tell if you at too many paint chips as a kid or played too much football. If you're worried about childhood obesity and diabetes, they can simply run track or play tennis, lol.

It is fascinating how parents will defend their choices, particularly if their child is enjoying something. Having worked with individuals with brain trauma (and yes, playing football was a common variable), we're erring on the side of no football. There are just so few dangers we can actually actively prevent for our boys. This study is about rugby (which has similar rates of concussions) and focuses on how parents assess risk. Cognitive dissonance is really powerful.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9774146/