Redshirting consequences at Lafayette

[Anonymous]

I wonder if Lafayette mom thinks she’s convincing anyone on this thread by posting over and over that there’s no advantage and everyone should chill.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just when I thought this thread couldn’t get any more insane.

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This thread is completely bonkers

It's an insane thread. There is no doubt in my mind that Avra Siegel is here, she's responsible for many of the more insane comments, and she is absolutely loving the discussion. It's feeding her.

We all need to stop feeding her, for her own sake.

Everyone on here comes across as incredibly insecure. Losing their minds at the hint of someone else having a perceived “advantage” - be confident in yourself and your own family and take a chill pill.

Some of us are not bothered by the perceived "advantage" of redshirting, we're just exasperated by these families who are mad about having to follow the same rules as everyone else. It sounds like if a family at a Title 1 school in SE tried to do what these Lafayette families have been doing, it would not have been allowed. That seems wrong. I think that's the main reason people hate the Lafayette families.

If this were just more broadly about redshirting I think you'd see a lot more sympathy, but this is really about whether or not this little group of families at this one school (that happens to be very rich and white compared to the rest of the city) should have to follow the same rules as everyone else. The answer is yes, obviously. Even if the rule sucks. Lots of rules suck.

y'all sound completely unhinged. i dont give a shit about redshirting. maybe it will help kids who are very immature or painfully shy or whatever. but the idea that it's going to make your kid smarter and more athletic and more charming and more artistic and they'll be taller and more good looking and all their jokes will be funnier. do you not know how crazy you sound?

It’s only one redshirted writing all the posts. It’s crazy and unhinged, but what are you going to do?

Redshirting is not the advantage she makes it seem and most other parents don’t care. Usually it’s actually good for the rest of the class if some kids are more mature, but she sees it as a zero sum game because of hyper competitive mindset.

The 15year old daughter that can’t be around 19 year olds is just showing how crazy she is.

[Anonymous]

I doubt this will matter to the already derailed thread, but there have been boys redshirted all over the city.

It's not a strictly Lafeyette, or strictly NW, or strictly Ward 3 thing.

[Anonymous]

I’m wondering: what happens to kids that were redshirted if they change schools down the road? Do they make them skip a grade just because of their date of birth? That doesn’t sound like it will help kids or teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I doubt this will matter to the already derailed thread, but there have been boys redshirted all over the city.

It's not a strictly Lafeyette, or strictly NW, or strictly Ward 3 thing.

I live in NE. I asked to redshirt my August birthday kid (in part due to Covid -- she missed PK3 due to Covid and seemed immature for K to me) and was told no and that it was not permitted under DCPS rules. We know lots of summer and September birthdays at our school (the young kids from the grade seem to gravitate towards each other) and none are redshirted.

I was very surprised when this story surfaced to learn that redshirting was fairly common at Lafayette or any school. It is unheard of at our DCPS and I can't imagine them allowing it absent SNs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt this will matter to the already derailed thread, but there have been boys redshirted all over the city.

It's not a strictly Lafeyette, or strictly NW, or strictly Ward 3 thing.

I live in NE. I asked to redshirt my August birthday kid (in part due to Covid -- she missed PK3 due to Covid and seemed immature for K to me) and was told no and that it was not permitted under DCPS rules. We know lots of summer and September birthdays at our school (the young kids from the grade seem to gravitate towards each other) and none are redshirted.

I was very surprised when this story surfaced to learn that redshirting was fairly common at Lafayette or any school. It is unheard of at our DCPS and I can't imagine them allowing it absent SNs.

So you let a faceless bureaucrat who doesn't know jack squat about your kid overrule you? Even though you were confident that you did not think your child was mature enough for kindergarten?

People on this thread are quick to trash "rich NW parents" for standing up for their kids but at least they're standing up and not getting railroaded by some DCPS numskull.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I doubt this will matter to the already derailed thread, but there have been boys redshirted all over the city.

It's not a strictly Lafeyette, or strictly NW, or strictly Ward 3 thing.

I live in NE. I asked to redshirt my August birthday kid (in part due to Covid -- she missed PK3 due to Covid and seemed immature for K to me) and was told no and that it was not permitted under DCPS rules. We know lots of summer and September birthdays at our school (the young kids from the grade seem to gravitate towards each other) and none are redshirted.

I was very surprised when this story surfaced to learn that redshirting was fairly common at Lafayette or any school. It is unheard of at our DCPS and I can't imagine them allowing it absent SNs.

So you let a faceless bureaucrat who doesn't know jack squat about your kid overrule you? Even though you were confident that you did not think your child was mature enough for kindergarten?

People on this thread are quick to trash "rich NW parents" for standing up for their kids but at least they're standing up and not getting railroaded by some DCPS numskull.

PP here. Yes, I took no for an answer. I didn't want to make enemies at my child's school but making a big deal about it. I knew other parents who also asked and were also told no.

Perhaps if you aee wealthy and used to having others bend the rules for you, it seems obvious you should keep pushing. In my experience, that's a good way to get your family discriminated against in the future. Perhaps you have not experienced discrimination or living in a world where most people don't care what you think and where you have very little power.

[Anonymous]

A system where the kids with the most aggressive, entitled, and powerful parents get treated better is a bad system. Which is why redshirting should be based on a school evaluation for readiness, not which parents push the hardest to get it. If this bothers you, I think you would be happier in private schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I doubt this will matter to the already derailed thread, but there have been boys redshirted all over the city.

It's not a strictly Lafeyette, or strictly NW, or strictly Ward 3 thing.

I live in NE. I asked to redshirt my August birthday kid (in part due to Covid -- she missed PK3 due to Covid and seemed immature for K to me) and was told no and that it was not permitted under DCPS rules. We know lots of summer and September birthdays at our school (the young kids from the grade seem to gravitate towards each other) and none are redshirted.

I was very surprised when this story surfaced to learn that redshirting was fairly common at Lafayette or any school. It is unheard of at our DCPS and I can't imagine them allowing it absent SNs.

So you let a faceless bureaucrat who doesn't know jack squat about your kid overrule you? Even though you were confident that you did not think your child was mature enough for kindergarten?

People on this thread are quick to trash "rich NW parents" for standing up for their kids but at least they're standing up and not getting railroaded by some DCPS numskull.

PP here. Yes, I took no for an answer. I didn't want to make enemies at my child's school but making a big deal about it. I knew other parents who also asked and were also told no.

Perhaps if you aee wealthy and used to having others bend the rules for you, it seems obvious you should keep pushing. In my experience, that's a good way to get your family discriminated against in the future. Perhaps you have not experienced discrimination or living in a world where most people don't care what you think and where you have very little power.

It is disheartening that you didn't have an alternative. There are activists fighting for school reform and more flexibility for parents so that people aren't forced to choose between enrolling your child before you feel that they're ready and risking retribution from public employees at DCPS. The fact that you would even fear retaliation from public employers for advocating for whats best for your child is infuriating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A system where the kids with the most aggressive, entitled, and powerful parents get treated better is a bad system. Which is why redshirting should be based on a school evaluation for readiness, not which parents push the hardest to get it. If this bothers you, I think you would be happier in private schools.

Why would you oppose a system where parents are empowered to decide, within reason, whats best for their kids. Your compliance with the DCPS bureaucracy is part of what empowers them to continue bullying parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I doubt this will matter to the already derailed thread, but there have been boys redshirted all over the city.

It's not a strictly Lafeyette, or strictly NW, or strictly Ward 3 thing.

Not strictly boys either. The handful of redshirts I know in Cap Hill (they exist here too!) are girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm late to this thread but saw a news story about this recently. We moved from out of state last summer and the state we moved from has a different cutoff date than DCPS's. We enrolled our child in the grade that they would have been in the previous state since this child has only been in daycare until we moved. But based on DCPS's age policy, this child would have been in first grade. We don't really agree with the redshirting across the board since with the previous school district with a different child, it was very prominent and my oldest child with an end of year birthday was actually one of the youngest in their class with a late summer cutoff. Lots of the redshirting parents boasted how their child was "ahead" in the next grade. It was exhausting as a parent with a kid who's kid attended on time. I get case by case but it became the norm. Probably not as bad here with the free preK3-4 options here. Anyways is there any kind of policy for kids who come in from out of state? I looked online and didn't see anything.

This is one scenario where it does seem very unfair to skip the kid a grade ahead. I believe it is part of the cleanup legislation the Lafayette parents are pushing to let them do it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A system where the kids with the most aggressive, entitled, and powerful parents get treated better is a bad system. Which is why redshirting should be based on a school evaluation for readiness, not which parents push the hardest to get it. If this bothers you, I think you would be happier in private schools.

Why would you oppose a system where parents are empowered to decide, within reason, whats best for their kids. Your compliance with the DCPS bureaucracy is part of what empowers them to continue bullying parents.

So now the Lafayette parents are blaming people when followed the rules for "empowering" DCPS?

Y'all need a timeout. Now you are attacking people when wanted to redshirt but acquiesced when told it wasn't possible for the situation YOU PUT YOURSELF INTO. Just stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I doubt this will matter to the already derailed thread, but there have been boys redshirted all over the city.

It's not a strictly Lafeyette, or strictly NW, or strictly Ward 3 thing.

I live in NE. I asked to redshirt my August birthday kid (in part due to Covid -- she missed PK3 due to Covid and seemed immature for K to me) and was told no and that it was not permitted under DCPS rules. We know lots of summer and September birthdays at our school (the young kids from the grade seem to gravitate towards each other) and none are redshirted.

I was very surprised when this story surfaced to learn that redshirting was fairly common at Lafayette or any school. It is unheard of at our DCPS and I can't imagine them allowing it absent SNs.

You just described most of the kids your dd’s age. They couldn’t redshirt everyone who needed it after Covid, because that was the majority of kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A system where the kids with the most aggressive, entitled, and powerful parents get treated better is a bad system. Which is why redshirting should be based on a school evaluation for readiness, not which parents push the hardest to get it. If this bothers you, I think you would be happier in private schools.

This is how most things in life work.