CCO guidance on 2024 RD chances/lay of the land

[Anonymous]

Has anyone had any recent conversations with their CCO about the current RD landscape post-mass deferrals, lay of the land, and your child’s best chances?

Feel like the CCO knows how much of the class is shaking out and will be able to survey the landscape and make some informed predictions, based on what they know from regional reps etc.

Has anyone asked? What are you hearing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone had any recent conversations with their CCO about the current RD landscape post-mass deferrals, lay of the land, and your child’s best chances?

Feel like the CCO knows how much of the class is shaking out and will be able to survey the landscape and make some informed predictions, based on what they know from regional reps etc.

Has anyone asked? What are you hearing?

NCS has told everyone to lower expectations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone had any recent conversations with their CCO about the current RD landscape post-mass deferrals, lay of the land, and your child’s best chances?

Feel like the CCO knows how much of the class is shaking out and will be able to survey the landscape and make some informed predictions, based on what they know from regional reps etc.

Has anyone asked? What are you hearing?

NCS has told everyone to lower expectations.

was this at the junior college night or was this told to the senior class?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone had any recent conversations with their CCO about the current RD landscape post-mass deferrals, lay of the land, and your child’s best chances?

Feel like the CCO knows how much of the class is shaking out and will be able to survey the landscape and make some informed predictions, based on what they know from regional reps etc.

Has anyone asked? What are you hearing?

NCS has told everyone to lower expectations.

Really? Even in RD?

[Anonymous]

Wait and see. None of the CCOs know how things will shake out yet. Lower expectations is good advice. They were likely too high to begin with…

[Anonymous]

They all have an idea of whether RD trends will follow ED trends (heavily focused on certain institutional priorities that does not include urban private school kids) or whether regular decision gives them the freedom to veer back to more a traditional pool.

I have heard that the latter may be true.

[Anonymous]

Expect fewer slots for feeder prep schools.

Meaning if your school typically had 4 kids admitted to a certain T20, expect it to be to 2 this year.

[Anonymous]

Everyone is getting letters from board of trustees members at colleges & universities for where they’ve applied this year.
It’s out of control.

[Anonymous]

I’m also curious about this; does anyone see anything happening behind the scenes with CCO talking to the colleges and universities they are closest to?

Now that ED2 is shaking out, they know who else in the top 1/2 or 1/3 of the class is left outstanding…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone had any recent conversations with their CCO about the current RD landscape post-mass deferrals, lay of the land, and your child’s best chances?

Feel like the CCO knows how much of the class is shaking out and will be able to survey the landscape and make some informed predictions, based on what they know from regional reps etc.

Has anyone asked? What are you hearing?

Hearing that GPA really does matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone had any recent conversations with their CCO about the current RD landscape post-mass deferrals, lay of the land, and your child’s best chances?

Feel like the CCO knows how much of the class is shaking out and will be able to survey the landscape and make some informed predictions, based on what they know from regional reps etc.

Has anyone asked? What are you hearing?

Hearing that GPA really does matter.

Bad GPAs matter cuase that's a quick read for an enrollment management professional, and eases the reading load ultimatley. Your rigor is the DNA of your GPA, thats what matter most and has always been what has mattered most with or without testing to selective colleges. The issue currently is the combination of legacies, strivers, and instituion's commitment to equity has created an environment that is impossible to try an predict, it also is unfortuante that all these groups are literally applying to the same 50 schools. Expand your lists people, your undergraduate degree means very little in today's economy so play the long game, pay little for BA/BS degree and invest in post-graduate education, skills training, or buy property instead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone had any recent conversations with their CCO about the current RD landscape post-mass deferrals, lay of the land, and your child’s best chances?

Feel like the CCO knows how much of the class is shaking out and will be able to survey the landscape and make some informed predictions, based on what they know from regional reps etc.

Has anyone asked? What are you hearing?

Hearing that GPA really does matter.

Are the schools going to adjust? Is there any sense that CCO is talking to the broader administration about this?

Like at some point is a school going to say, "huh--our average is 3.5 and while this has been our identity for 100 years we can no longer get these kids into top 75 colleges. It's time to adjust upwards."


As a parent of a junior, I worry about this a lot because we've been told that the our classes' GPAs are low due to being all in person (while the past 3 years were inflated due to online grading for part of high school).
Our SCOIR data is incredibly concerning. Any top 50 school seems to have recently required a GPA that my kid and none of the kids I know have (I'm thinking of about a dozen--and these are kids known to be strong students).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone had any recent conversations with their CCO about the current RD landscape post-mass deferrals, lay of the land, and your child’s best chances?

Feel like the CCO knows how much of the class is shaking out and will be able to survey the landscape and make some informed predictions, based on what they know from regional reps etc.

Has anyone asked? What are you hearing?

Hearing that GPA really does matter.

Are the schools going to adjust? Is there any sense that CCO is talking to the broader administration about this?

Like at some point is a school going to say, "huh--our average is 3.5 and while this has been our identity for 100 years we can no longer get these kids into top 75 colleges. It's time to adjust upwards."


As a parent of a junior, I worry about this a lot because we've been told that the our classes' GPAs are low due to being all in person (while the past 3 years were inflated due to online grading for part of high school).
Our SCOIR data is incredibly concerning. Any top 50 school seems to have recently required a GPA that my kid and none of the kids I know have (I'm thinking of about a dozen--and these are kids known to be strong students).

This is why a few of the Big 3 schools have adjusted and do not put the GPA on the transcript and let the colleges figure it out their own way or they just use a 100 point system.

[Anonymous]

Yes it’s all about the grades. Show enough rigor, but at the end of the day it’s the grades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone had any recent conversations with their CCO about the current RD landscape post-mass deferrals, lay of the land, and your child’s best chances?

Feel like the CCO knows how much of the class is shaking out and will be able to survey the landscape and make some informed predictions, based on what they know from regional reps etc.

Has anyone asked? What are you hearing?

Hearing that GPA really does matter.

Are the schools going to adjust? Is there any sense that CCO is talking to the broader administration about this?

Like at some point is a school going to say, "huh--our average is 3.5 and while this has been our identity for 100 years we can no longer get these kids into top 75 colleges. It's time to adjust upwards."


As a parent of a junior, I worry about this a lot because we've been told that the our classes' GPAs are low due to being all in person (while the past 3 years were inflated due to online grading for part of high school).
Our SCOIR data is incredibly concerning. Any top 50 school seems to have recently required a GPA that my kid and none of the kids I know have (I'm thinking of about a dozen--and these are kids known to be strong students).

This is why a few of the Big 3 schools have adjusted and do not put the GPA on the transcript and let the colleges figure it out their own way or they just use a 100 point system.

Their solution is to play hide the ball with college admissions?