Why is American urbanism so gross compared to Asian urbanism?

[Anonymous]

Not even gonna bring Europe into this since their “urbanism” is village/college campus vibes

I mean Shanghai, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Singapore, shenzen, Beijing, Seoul, Jakarta, Taipei, Bangkok etc

Asian cities are amazing

[Anonymous]

Urbanism in America is associated with being poor, hence we see a host of issues related to poverty.

In Asian countries, the wealthy live in he urban core. They do not migrate to the suburbs. Suburbs are still for people who cannot afford the core.

[Anonymous]

Troll post. My guess is OP has only been to certain high-end parts of those Asian cities, including Shenzhen (spelling corrected).

OP, walk into a regular person apartment building (not the uber rich) in Chaoyang District in Beijing. Report back.

[Anonymous]

Sheesh you get arrested in Singapore for littering.

[Anonymous]

Eye roll

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Urbanism in America is associated with being poor, hence we see a host of issues related to poverty.

In Asian countries, the wealthy live in he urban core. They do not migrate to the suburbs. Suburbs are still for people who cannot afford the core.

There are a lot of poors in the urban areas in Asian countries. They are just hidden, and there aren't as many homeless people. The US has a lot more regulations and laws that are supposed to prevent unsafe, cramped apartments. Asian countries have more lax laws around that so poor people are able to find crap housing more readily.

Watch the movie Parasite (Seoul); there was also an incident not that long ago where torrential rainfalls caused flooding in Seoul, and some people who lived in these unsafe basement apartments died. There was a call to regulate these better.

Have you never seen pictures of the cramped apartments in Hong Kong with their cage like apartments?

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2017/jun/07/boxed-life-inside-hong-kong-coffin-cubicles-cage-homes-in-pictures

They are better at "sweeping the homeless under the rug".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Troll post. My guess is OP has only been to certain high-end parts of those Asian cities, including Shenzhen (spelling corrected).

OP, walk into a regular person apartment building (not the uber rich) in Chaoyang District in Beijing. Report back.

Exactly. Also, I don't get what's so great about Choyang urbanism in comparison to the US? I lived there for years. There's poop and food wrappers everywhere, people drive on the sidewalks, nannies let their charges urinate in the tree boxes, there is music blaring everywhere, and there is a lot of smells everywhere with the vendors. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed my time there and the people are fantastic, but this isn't a claim I'd make.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sheesh you get arrested in Singapore for littering.

Sounds like a feature

If I see a plastic bottle or plastic wrapper on the side walk I pick it up and throw it out in a trash can if Im confident I’ll come across one

It’s called having a sense of decorum

I’d like to see littering being an arrestable offense

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sheesh you get arrested in Singapore for littering.

Sounds like a feature

If I see a plastic bottle or plastic wrapper on the side walk I pick it up and throw it out in a trash can if Im confident I’ll come across one

It’s called having a sense of decorum

I’d like to see littering being an arrestable offense

Singapore is really sterile. The kids cruise underground malls for "fun." Not my cup of tea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sheesh you get arrested in Singapore for littering.

Sounds like a feature

If I see a plastic bottle or plastic wrapper on the side walk I pick it up and throw it out in a trash can if Im confident I’ll come across one

It’s called having a sense of decorum

I’d like to see littering being an arrestable offense

Singapore is really sterile. The kids cruise underground malls for "fun." Not my cup of tea.

That’s exactly what my American kids do in the U.S., except that the malls and food courts here aren’t as good or as safe. On my recent travels in the U.S. and Asia, getting bubble tea and wandering around aimlessly is as exciting as it gets for most teens. At least in Singapore and Tokyo it’s safe enough that kids can do it solo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sheesh you get arrested in Singapore for littering.

Sounds like a feature

If I see a plastic bottle or plastic wrapper on the side walk I pick it up and throw it out in a trash can if Im confident I’ll come across one

It’s called having a sense of decorum

I’d like to see littering being an arrestable offense

You would be great in Singapore!

There is litter and random blown-around trash in Singapore, but the difference is that people will just casually pick it up and throw it away- and there are tons of trash cans so it’s easy to do. The first time I ever visited I saw a woman dressed for work grab a straw wrapper off the ground and throw it away without breaking stride. In the US most people would act like they didn’t see it, or if they did pick it up they’d make a big production of encountering it so everyone knows it’s not theirs and then gingerly picking it up and dropping it in the trash in a way that draws attention. And even then it would probably get caught in the trash can flap and blow right back out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Troll post. My guess is OP has only been to certain high-end parts of those Asian cities, including Shenzhen (spelling corrected).

OP, walk into a regular person apartment building (not the uber rich) in Chaoyang District in Beijing. Report back.

+1
Way to embarrass yourself, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Troll post. My guess is OP has only been to certain high-end parts of those Asian cities, including Shenzhen (spelling corrected).

OP, walk into a regular person apartment building (not the uber rich) in Chaoyang District in Beijing. Report back.

+1
Way to embarrass yourself, OP.

[Anonymous]

While OP is ignorant and most likely a troll, I will not bash Asian cities. The ones I have lived in or visited have their upsides and downsides, just like anywhere else. But to make such a simple minded comparison to the US is stupidity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Troll post. My guess is OP has only been to certain high-end parts of those Asian cities, including Shenzhen (spelling corrected).

OP, walk into a regular person apartment building (not the uber rich) in Chaoyang District in Beijing. Report back.

+1
Way to embarrass yourself, OP.

I bet there is a lot less crime in these areas vs similar economic levels in the us

The Americas as a whole is a lot more criminal minded than Asia controlling for income and wealth