Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The conservative in me thinks addressing this issue (deporting them) would lead to higher wages and better benefits in the ag sector, which attracts more domestic workers to work in ag. It also would increase investment in mechanization and automation. There will be a time of higher costs increased food prices but when things settle, they should stabilize.
However, on a broader level, I find this entire situation absurd. The United States has become far too reliant on migrant labor, having half of the agricultural workforce undocumented. We need to ask ourselves why this is the case. It ain’t because this is "work Americans won't do". It's entirely because, for over 40 years, corporations have been allowed to exploit cheap imported labor, keeping wages for these jobs disgustingly low sometimes even below the federal minimum wage.
There are plenty of Americans who would be willing to do this work, but not for $12 an hour under the sweltering sun of Texas. Offer $30 an hour plus benefits to harvest lettuce, and you would see plenty of people lining up for those jobs. The problem lies in the fact that neither Democrats nor Republicans have taken meaningful action for decades. BOTH sides have allowed "big ag" to exploit these workers, paying pennies per box harvested perpetuating this cycle of exploitation, and doing so in such a way that if it were to ever dare end, suddenly panic, omg, our foods gonna rot and we're all gonna die of starvation because we cant afford food! They have caught you in this line of thinking, so they will always get their cheap, exploitive labor.
In my opinion, the widespread abuse of migrant labor over the past four decades is a shameful stain on this country. But, just like iPhones and Nike shoes, most people turn a blind eye to the unethical labor practices behind the products they want, so long as the price is low. Just look at OPs post: concerns about "rotting crops" and "skyrocketing prices", and not a single care about the exploitation of these workers. This has been ignored for decades and now that there's a policy threatens to send them home, we just get all up in arms because we might have to pay more.
It’s almost like saying that an economy can’t survive without illegal & low or no cost labor to farm the land. You know who else used that argument????
The Confederacy during the Civil War. Let that sink in.
I totally agree. Those whites from the upper Midwest who started the end of slavery should be made saints. I think the problem is a little deeper than big ag though.
A problem is that even the ones that come here on Visa decide they don't want to work on the farm. They're just like lazy Americans you know. ICE is being protested in LA not Central Valley.
I saw one sitting in an air-conditioned restaurant the other day. Then all the bogus economic arguments can't make any money because dairy and manufacturing aren't seasonal, and they can't hire temporary labor. Can't find skilled labor etc. You can't have labor shortages in all sectors at the same time. Doesn't make any sense. Labor shortages don't make any sense in a free market.
It's globalism, they won't defend borders, but trespass on their property you better watch out. They think they own the means to production. Oh, your schools, pools, libraries and roads, that's just commons you can pay for that.
I was hit by guy on a temporary visa going fifty in a 25 caused a three-car pileup. Government subsidized insurance wouldn't accept the claim had to go to court to get them to pay.