Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:We are quickly approaching the FOFO stage for Lively and her supporters.

Ryan and Blake’s supporters are not real. As soon as the money spigot is turned off, they will all disappear. Justin and the other victims aren’t paying any shills and bot farms, they have organic support.

I am a real person who supports Blake's claims. I wouldn't say I'm a "Ryan and Blake" supporter -- I don't really care about them as actors or celebs. But I think what she's alleging likely happened and that it's not right for a woman to be treated that way on a film set by a director. I am a survivor of workplace harassment and sexual assault, and have worked as an advocate for SA/SH survivors since then (through the same organization where I found solace when I was dealing with PTSD from my experience).

I don't think Blake's experience is the worst example of SH I've ever heard of, far from it, and certainly she's better resourced and supported than the vast majority of survivors. But that's a reason to support her, not to dismiss her. Most survivors don't have the means or support system to get justice. I didn't -- I quit my job, dealt with my harasser saying negative things about me to former colleagues and preemptively calling me a liar and criticizing my mental health to pre-empt me coming forward with allegations, went into a different industry, got therapy, and moved on. It was unsatisfying but the best outcome for me, as I know trying to sue would have been horrible to go through and I didn't have a good support system at the time. But that makes it all the more important for people who are in a position to litigate, and who can deal with the inevitable character attacks and expenses, to do so.

FTR, if it came out that it was all a lie and that Baldoni was great on set and she made up all these allegations, I will retract my support. But right now I believe her and would like to hear from witnesses and hear both Baldoni and Lively testify. I think she'll be proven truthful in the end, I just hope people listen to her.

Hey, thank you for this serious response. To be honest, I am not surprised you support Lively here in part because you have actually been sexually assaulted/harassed but were not in a position to sue and understand how difficult it is to report and to be taken seriously as a victim. Your experience resonates with me, too. I have said it before here, but I have also been sexually harassed both at and outside of work, and in every case except one I just moved forward and moved on because I could not deal with the fallout that would happen to me as a result of reporting. The one case that I did report had no effect on me because I was a prospective employee who declined the job offer so I wouldn't need the situation following me into my new job. Every other time I just kept my mouth shut.

The most and possibly only successful result I have seen come out of a sexual harassment suit or exposure (besides the NYT exposure of Weinstein) was Taylor Swift suing that gross DJ for $1 to prove a point. She didn't give them her medical records so they couldn't tear her down; she wasn't suing him for real money. Women who speak out to try to warn others get scrutinized and pilloried, time and time over. Famous cases I know of are Anita Hill, Christine Blasey Ford, Amber Heard, Bill Cosby's accuser (who also got sued for defamation) Andrea Constand, Juanita Broaddrick, Monica Lewinski. None of these women besides Constand were ultimately taken seriously (and even Cosby got his sentence thrown out), and all of them were mocked and derided for coming forward. Just like people on this board are doing. All of them had lies told about them that other people believed and used to mock them. That's the way women are treated.

It's not right. I agree with you that if facts come out showing that the SH or retaliation didn't actually happen, I'll withdraw my support. But like you, I believe Lively mostly experienced what is in her complaint. (I frankly don't care if every single detail is correct. To me there is no real difference between "You smell good" and "You smell so good.") I believe her, and I also hope real details come out about the retaliation campaign, because if that can be proven, it would help so many women going forward.

I'm a real person too and I believe her.

And further, in the instant case, she said her tanning lotion smelled and THEN he commented on it. He said it smells good. Watch the freaking video.

I've seen the video. She was trying to tell him to keep his distance by suggesting her tanning lotion smelled (i.e., so stay away). But he used it as an excuse to get closer, saying it smelled good! That was the opposite of what she wanted. She was trying to make the scene light and talky, and he kept trying to make it about kissing and being physically close. No kissing was scripted here.

Wow, you live in your own, very warped world.

He signed the 17 point checklist.
He agreed to no more unscripted nudity, kissing, sex, etc.
He agreed to no more discussions about porn, Lively’s non-exposure to porn, lack of consent.
He agreed to no more open screens with whole crew during cast nudity, or open sets during same.
He agreed to producer and intimacy coordinator on set at certain times.
He promised not to retaliate.
He hired the same crisis PR team as Amber Heard.
He wanted them to make him feel more protected. They responded to one another that they could bury anyone.
But they wouldn’t say exactly what they would do in writing, because that could get them in trouble.
Heath, Baldoni, and the PR reps had many in person conversations and calls that are not captured in these texts.
Baldoni says he needs something like the PR campaign against Hailey Bieber.
The PR reps said their campaign would be untraceable.
Why was untraceability so important if what he was doing was just boosting his own name and not hurting hers?
It was because he had promised not to retaliate, and what he was doing was retaliating, so he needed it to be untraceable.

Way to prove my point! There is nothing normal about your refusal to put things in context.

It’s the context of her perspective. You just choose to disbelieve every single thing she says. Similar to what other victims who have come forward have experienced. Your own context is warped.

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Anonymous wrote:We are quickly approaching the FOFO stage for Lively and her supporters.

Ryan and Blake’s supporters are not real. As soon as the money spigot is turned off, they will all disappear. Justin and the other victims aren’t paying any shills and bot farms, they have organic support.

I am a real person who supports Blake's claims. I wouldn't say I'm a "Ryan and Blake" supporter -- I don't really care about them as actors or celebs. But I think what she's alleging likely happened and that it's not right for a woman to be treated that way on a film set by a director. I am a survivor of workplace harassment and sexual assault, and have worked as an advocate for SA/SH survivors since then (through the same organization where I found solace when I was dealing with PTSD from my experience).

I don't think Blake's experience is the worst example of SH I've ever heard of, far from it, and certainly she's better resourced and supported than the vast majority of survivors. But that's a reason to support her, not to dismiss her. Most survivors don't have the means or support system to get justice. I didn't -- I quit my job, dealt with my harasser saying negative things about me to former colleagues and preemptively calling me a liar and criticizing my mental health to pre-empt me coming forward with allegations, went into a different industry, got therapy, and moved on. It was unsatisfying but the best outcome for me, as I know trying to sue would have been horrible to go through and I didn't have a good support system at the time. But that makes it all the more important for people who are in a position to litigate, and who can deal with the inevitable character attacks and expenses, to do so.

FTR, if it came out that it was all a lie and that Baldoni was great on set and she made up all these allegations, I will retract my support. But right now I believe her and would like to hear from witnesses and hear both Baldoni and Lively testify. I think she'll be proven truthful in the end, I just hope people listen to her.

Hey, thank you for this serious response. To be honest, I am not surprised you support Lively here in part because you have actually been sexually assaulted/harassed but were not in a position to sue and understand how difficult it is to report and to be taken seriously as a victim. Your experience resonates with me, too. I have said it before here, but I have also been sexually harassed both at and outside of work, and in every case except one I just moved forward and moved on because I could not deal with the fallout that would happen to me as a result of reporting. The one case that I did report had no effect on me because I was a prospective employee who declined the job offer so I wouldn't need the situation following me into my new job. Every other time I just kept my mouth shut.

The most and possibly only successful result I have seen come out of a sexual harassment suit or exposure (besides the NYT exposure of Weinstein) was Taylor Swift suing that gross DJ for $1 to prove a point. She didn't give them her medical records so they couldn't tear her down; she wasn't suing him for real money. Women who speak out to try to warn others get scrutinized and pilloried, time and time over. Famous cases I know of are Anita Hill, Christine Blasey Ford, Amber Heard, Bill Cosby's accuser (who also got sued for defamation) Andrea Constand, Juanita Broaddrick, Monica Lewinski. None of these women besides Constand were ultimately taken seriously (and even Cosby got his sentence thrown out), and all of them were mocked and derided for coming forward. Just like people on this board are doing. All of them had lies told about them that other people believed and used to mock them. That's the way women are treated.

It's not right. I agree with you that if facts come out showing that the SH or retaliation didn't actually happen, I'll withdraw my support. But like you, I believe Lively mostly experienced what is in her complaint. (I frankly don't care if every single detail is correct. To me there is no real difference between "You smell good" and "You smell so good.") I believe her, and I also hope real details come out about the retaliation campaign, because if that can be proven, it would help so many women going forward.

I'm a real person too and I believe her.

And further, in the instant case, she said her tanning lotion smelled and THEN he commented on it. He said it smells good. Watch the freaking video.

I've seen the video. She was trying to tell him to keep his distance by suggesting her tanning lotion smelled (i.e., so stay away). But he used it as an excuse to get closer, saying it smelled good! That was the opposite of what she wanted. She was trying to make the scene light and talky, and he kept trying to make it about kissing and being physically close. No kissing was scripted here.

Wow, you live in your own, very warped world.

He signed the 17 point checklist.
He agreed to no more unscripted nudity, kissing, sex, etc.
He agreed to no more discussions about porn, Lively’s non-exposure to porn, lack of consent.
He agreed to no more open screens with whole crew during cast nudity, or open sets during same.
He agreed to producer and intimacy coordinator on set at certain times.
He promised not to retaliate.
He hired the same crisis PR team as Amber Heard.
He wanted them to make him feel more protected. They responded to one another that they could bury anyone.
But they wouldn’t say exactly what they would do in writing, because that could get them in trouble.
Heath, Baldoni, and the PR reps had many in person conversations and calls that are not captured in these texts.
Baldoni says he needs something like the PR campaign against Hailey Bieber.
The PR reps said their campaign would be untraceable.
Why was untraceability so important if what he was doing was just boosting his own name and not hurting hers?
It was because he had promised not to retaliate, and what he was doing was retaliating, so he needed it to be untraceable.

Way to prove my point! There is nothing normal about your refusal to put things in context.

It's a very Blake way of thinking. Like raking an interviewer over the coals for asking about a complicated wardrobe in a period piece as if it's some super misogynistic question. Twisted.

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Have we talked about Justin’s new lawyer, Ellen Garafolo? She has more than 30 years of litigation experience. A source told DM, “Garofalo was compelled to join the case after reviewing its circumstances, feeling strongly that an injustice was unfolding and that her participation could make a meaningful difference.” I think this sums up the feelings of team Justin. She’ll be a real asset to the case.

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Anonymous wrote:We are quickly approaching the FOFO stage for Lively and her supporters.

Ryan and Blake’s supporters are not real. As soon as the money spigot is turned off, they will all disappear. Justin and the other victims aren’t paying any shills and bot farms, they have organic support.

I am a real person who supports Blake's claims. I wouldn't say I'm a "Ryan and Blake" supporter -- I don't really care about them as actors or celebs. But I think what she's alleging likely happened and that it's not right for a woman to be treated that way on a film set by a director. I am a survivor of workplace harassment and sexual assault, and have worked as an advocate for SA/SH survivors since then (through the same organization where I found solace when I was dealing with PTSD from my experience).

I don't think Blake's experience is the worst example of SH I've ever heard of, far from it, and certainly she's better resourced and supported than the vast majority of survivors. But that's a reason to support her, not to dismiss her. Most survivors don't have the means or support system to get justice. I didn't -- I quit my job, dealt with my harasser saying negative things about me to former colleagues and preemptively calling me a liar and criticizing my mental health to pre-empt me coming forward with allegations, went into a different industry, got therapy, and moved on. It was unsatisfying but the best outcome for me, as I know trying to sue would have been horrible to go through and I didn't have a good support system at the time. But that makes it all the more important for people who are in a position to litigate, and who can deal with the inevitable character attacks and expenses, to do so.

FTR, if it came out that it was all a lie and that Baldoni was great on set and she made up all these allegations, I will retract my support. But right now I believe her and would like to hear from witnesses and hear both Baldoni and Lively testify. I think she'll be proven truthful in the end, I just hope people listen to her.

Hey, thank you for this serious response. To be honest, I am not surprised you support Lively here in part because you have actually been sexually assaulted/harassed but were not in a position to sue and understand how difficult it is to report and to be taken seriously as a victim. Your experience resonates with me, too. I have said it before here, but I have also been sexually harassed both at and outside of work, and in every case except one I just moved forward and moved on because I could not deal with the fallout that would happen to me as a result of reporting. The one case that I did report had no effect on me because I was a prospective employee who declined the job offer so I wouldn't need the situation following me into my new job. Every other time I just kept my mouth shut.

The most and possibly only successful result I have seen come out of a sexual harassment suit or exposure (besides the NYT exposure of Weinstein) was Taylor Swift suing that gross DJ for $1 to prove a point. She didn't give them her medical records so they couldn't tear her down; she wasn't suing him for real money. Women who speak out to try to warn others get scrutinized and pilloried, time and time over. Famous cases I know of are Anita Hill, Christine Blasey Ford, Amber Heard, Bill Cosby's accuser (who also got sued for defamation) Andrea Constand, Juanita Broaddrick, Monica Lewinski. None of these women besides Constand were ultimately taken seriously (and even Cosby got his sentence thrown out), and all of them were mocked and derided for coming forward. Just like people on this board are doing. All of them had lies told about them that other people believed and used to mock them. That's the way women are treated.

It's not right. I agree with you that if facts come out showing that the SH or retaliation didn't actually happen, I'll withdraw my support. But like you, I believe Lively mostly experienced what is in her complaint. (I frankly don't care if every single detail is correct. To me there is no real difference between "You smell good" and "You smell so good.") I believe her, and I also hope real details come out about the retaliation campaign, because if that can be proven, it would help so many women going forward.

I'm a real person too and I believe her.

And further, in the instant case, she said her tanning lotion smelled and THEN he commented on it. He said it smells good. Watch the freaking video.

I've seen the video. She was trying to tell him to keep his distance by suggesting her tanning lotion smelled (i.e., so stay away). But he used it as an excuse to get closer, saying it smelled good! That was the opposite of what she wanted. She was trying to make the scene light and talky, and he kept trying to make it about kissing and being physically close. No kissing was scripted here.

Wow, you live in your own, very warped world.

He signed the 17 point checklist.
He agreed to no more unscripted nudity, kissing, sex, etc.
He agreed to no more discussions about porn, Lively’s non-exposure to porn, lack of consent.
He agreed to no more open screens with whole crew during cast nudity, or open sets during same.
He agreed to producer and intimacy coordinator on set at certain times.
He promised not to retaliate.
He hired the same crisis PR team as Amber Heard.
He wanted them to make him feel more protected. They responded to one another that they could bury anyone.
But they wouldn’t say exactly what they would do in writing, because that could get them in trouble.
Heath, Baldoni, and the PR reps had many in person conversations and calls that are not captured in these texts.
Baldoni says he needs something like the PR campaign against Hailey Bieber.
The PR reps said their campaign would be untraceable.
Why was untraceability so important if what he was doing was just boosting his own name and not hurting hers?
It was because he had promised not to retaliate, and what he was doing was retaliating, so he needed it to be untraceable.

Way to prove my point! There is nothing normal about your refusal to put things in context.

It’s the context of her perspective. You just choose to disbelieve every single thing she says. Similar to what other victims who have come forward have experienced. Your own context is warped.

My perspective is that I'm a victim of rape and workplace sexual harassment and I dont believe a word out of her mouth. Actually, posts like yours feel like a slap in the face and I feel pretty confident she is marching towards the end of "believe women" out of her own narcissistic desires that thought this would be an easy win. Like if anyone were going to come forward with a false accusation? Blake and Ryan are 100 percent the types.

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Anonymous wrote:We are quickly approaching the FOFO stage for Lively and her supporters.

Ryan and Blake’s supporters are not real. As soon as the money spigot is turned off, they will all disappear. Justin and the other victims aren’t paying any shills and bot farms, they have organic support.

I am a real person who supports Blake's claims. I wouldn't say I'm a "Ryan and Blake" supporter -- I don't really care about them as actors or celebs. But I think what she's alleging likely happened and that it's not right for a woman to be treated that way on a film set by a director. I am a survivor of workplace harassment and sexual assault, and have worked as an advocate for SA/SH survivors since then (through the same organization where I found solace when I was dealing with PTSD from my experience).

I don't think Blake's experience is the worst example of SH I've ever heard of, far from it, and certainly she's better resourced and supported than the vast majority of survivors. But that's a reason to support her, not to dismiss her. Most survivors don't have the means or support system to get justice. I didn't -- I quit my job, dealt with my harasser saying negative things about me to former colleagues and preemptively calling me a liar and criticizing my mental health to pre-empt me coming forward with allegations, went into a different industry, got therapy, and moved on. It was unsatisfying but the best outcome for me, as I know trying to sue would have been horrible to go through and I didn't have a good support system at the time. But that makes it all the more important for people who are in a position to litigate, and who can deal with the inevitable character attacks and expenses, to do so.

FTR, if it came out that it was all a lie and that Baldoni was great on set and she made up all these allegations, I will retract my support. But right now I believe her and would like to hear from witnesses and hear both Baldoni and Lively testify. I think she'll be proven truthful in the end, I just hope people listen to her.

Hey, thank you for this serious response. To be honest, I am not surprised you support Lively here in part because you have actually been sexually assaulted/harassed but were not in a position to sue and understand how difficult it is to report and to be taken seriously as a victim. Your experience resonates with me, too. I have said it before here, but I have also been sexually harassed both at and outside of work, and in every case except one I just moved forward and moved on because I could not deal with the fallout that would happen to me as a result of reporting. The one case that I did report had no effect on me because I was a prospective employee who declined the job offer so I wouldn't need the situation following me into my new job. Every other time I just kept my mouth shut.

The most and possibly only successful result I have seen come out of a sexual harassment suit or exposure (besides the NYT exposure of Weinstein) was Taylor Swift suing that gross DJ for $1 to prove a point. She didn't give them her medical records so they couldn't tear her down; she wasn't suing him for real money. Women who speak out to try to warn others get scrutinized and pilloried, time and time over. Famous cases I know of are Anita Hill, Christine Blasey Ford, Amber Heard, Bill Cosby's accuser (who also got sued for defamation) Andrea Constand, Juanita Broaddrick, Monica Lewinski. None of these women besides Constand were ultimately taken seriously (and even Cosby got his sentence thrown out), and all of them were mocked and derided for coming forward. Just like people on this board are doing. All of them had lies told about them that other people believed and used to mock them. That's the way women are treated.

It's not right. I agree with you that if facts come out showing that the SH or retaliation didn't actually happen, I'll withdraw my support. But like you, I believe Lively mostly experienced what is in her complaint. (I frankly don't care if every single detail is correct. To me there is no real difference between "You smell good" and "You smell so good.") I believe her, and I also hope real details come out about the retaliation campaign, because if that can be proven, it would help so many women going forward.

I'm a real person too and I believe her.

And further, in the instant case, she said her tanning lotion smelled and THEN he commented on it. He said it smells good. Watch the freaking video.

I've seen the video. She was trying to tell him to keep his distance by suggesting her tanning lotion smelled (i.e., so stay away). But he used it as an excuse to get closer, saying it smelled good! That was the opposite of what she wanted. She was trying to make the scene light and talky, and he kept trying to make it about kissing and being physically close. No kissing was scripted here.

Wow, you live in your own, very warped world.

He signed the 17 point checklist.
He agreed to no more unscripted nudity, kissing, sex, etc.
He agreed to no more discussions about porn, Lively’s non-exposure to porn, lack of consent.
He agreed to no more open screens with whole crew during cast nudity, or open sets during same.
He agreed to producer and intimacy coordinator on set at certain times.
He promised not to retaliate.
He hired the same crisis PR team as Amber Heard.
He wanted them to make him feel more protected. They responded to one another that they could bury anyone.
But they wouldn’t say exactly what they would do in writing, because that could get them in trouble.
Heath, Baldoni, and the PR reps had many in person conversations and calls that are not captured in these texts.
Baldoni says he needs something like the PR campaign against Hailey Bieber.
The PR reps said their campaign would be untraceable.
Why was untraceability so important if what he was doing was just boosting his own name and not hurting hers?
It was because he had promised not to retaliate, and what he was doing was retaliating, so he needed it to be untraceable.

Way to prove my point! There is nothing normal about your refusal to put things in context.

It's a very Blake way of thinking. Like raking an interviewer over the coals for asking about a complicated wardrobe in a period piece as if it's some super misogynistic question. Twisted.

Seems like you guys think Lively should have just shut up and agreed to the extra nudity, extra climax simulation on screen, weird toplessness during childbirth scene, porn convos, shooting of sex scene with actors playing underage characters either unscripted simulated climaxing and gross Baldoni remark about it being hot, remarks about him talking to her dead dad, petulance and retaliation when confronted etc — and just shut up about it. Stay in your place. Let the man do his thing.

One thing that’s actually twisted is stealing the ideas of a dying man for your film. Another is making your proposal video to your wife all about yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:We are quickly approaching the FOFO stage for Lively and her supporters.

Ryan and Blake’s supporters are not real. As soon as the money spigot is turned off, they will all disappear. Justin and the other victims aren’t paying any shills and bot farms, they have organic support.

I am a real person who supports Blake's claims. I wouldn't say I'm a "Ryan and Blake" supporter -- I don't really care about them as actors or celebs. But I think what she's alleging likely happened and that it's not right for a woman to be treated that way on a film set by a director. I am a survivor of workplace harassment and sexual assault, and have worked as an advocate for SA/SH survivors since then (through the same organization where I found solace when I was dealing with PTSD from my experience).

I don't think Blake's experience is the worst example of SH I've ever heard of, far from it, and certainly she's better resourced and supported than the vast majority of survivors. But that's a reason to support her, not to dismiss her. Most survivors don't have the means or support system to get justice. I didn't -- I quit my job, dealt with my harasser saying negative things about me to former colleagues and preemptively calling me a liar and criticizing my mental health to pre-empt me coming forward with allegations, went into a different industry, got therapy, and moved on. It was unsatisfying but the best outcome for me, as I know trying to sue would have been horrible to go through and I didn't have a good support system at the time. But that makes it all the more important for people who are in a position to litigate, and who can deal with the inevitable character attacks and expenses, to do so.

FTR, if it came out that it was all a lie and that Baldoni was great on set and she made up all these allegations, I will retract my support. But right now I believe her and would like to hear from witnesses and hear both Baldoni and Lively testify. I think she'll be proven truthful in the end, I just hope people listen to her.

Hey, thank you for this serious response. To be honest, I am not surprised you support Lively here in part because you have actually been sexually assaulted/harassed but were not in a position to sue and understand how difficult it is to report and to be taken seriously as a victim. Your experience resonates with me, too. I have said it before here, but I have also been sexually harassed both at and outside of work, and in every case except one I just moved forward and moved on because I could not deal with the fallout that would happen to me as a result of reporting. The one case that I did report had no effect on me because I was a prospective employee who declined the job offer so I wouldn't need the situation following me into my new job. Every other time I just kept my mouth shut.

The most and possibly only successful result I have seen come out of a sexual harassment suit or exposure (besides the NYT exposure of Weinstein) was Taylor Swift suing that gross DJ for $1 to prove a point. She didn't give them her medical records so they couldn't tear her down; she wasn't suing him for real money. Women who speak out to try to warn others get scrutinized and pilloried, time and time over. Famous cases I know of are Anita Hill, Christine Blasey Ford, Amber Heard, Bill Cosby's accuser (who also got sued for defamation) Andrea Constand, Juanita Broaddrick, Monica Lewinski. None of these women besides Constand were ultimately taken seriously (and even Cosby got his sentence thrown out), and all of them were mocked and derided for coming forward. Just like people on this board are doing. All of them had lies told about them that other people believed and used to mock them. That's the way women are treated.

It's not right. I agree with you that if facts come out showing that the SH or retaliation didn't actually happen, I'll withdraw my support. But like you, I believe Lively mostly experienced what is in her complaint. (I frankly don't care if every single detail is correct. To me there is no real difference between "You smell good" and "You smell so good.") I believe her, and I also hope real details come out about the retaliation campaign, because if that can be proven, it would help so many women going forward.

I'm a real person too and I believe her.

And further, in the instant case, she said her tanning lotion smelled and THEN he commented on it. He said it smells good. Watch the freaking video.

I've seen the video. She was trying to tell him to keep his distance by suggesting her tanning lotion smelled (i.e., so stay away). But he used it as an excuse to get closer, saying it smelled good! That was the opposite of what she wanted. She was trying to make the scene light and talky, and he kept trying to make it about kissing and being physically close. No kissing was scripted here.

Wow, you live in your own, very warped world.

He signed the 17 point checklist.
He agreed to no more unscripted nudity, kissing, sex, etc.
He agreed to no more discussions about porn, Lively’s non-exposure to porn, lack of consent.
He agreed to no more open screens with whole crew during cast nudity, or open sets during same.
He agreed to producer and intimacy coordinator on set at certain times.
He promised not to retaliate.
He hired the same crisis PR team as Amber Heard.
He wanted them to make him feel more protected. They responded to one another that they could bury anyone.
But they wouldn’t say exactly what they would do in writing, because that could get them in trouble.
Heath, Baldoni, and the PR reps had many in person conversations and calls that are not captured in these texts.
Baldoni says he needs something like the PR campaign against Hailey Bieber.
The PR reps said their campaign would be untraceable.
Why was untraceability so important if what he was doing was just boosting his own name and not hurting hers?
It was because he had promised not to retaliate, and what he was doing was retaliating, so he needed it to be untraceable.

Way to prove my point! There is nothing normal about your refusal to put things in context.

It’s the context of her perspective. You just choose to disbelieve every single thing she says. Similar to what other victims who have come forward have experienced. Your own context is warped.

My perspective is that I'm a victim of rape and workplace sexual harassment and I dont believe a word out of her mouth. Actually, posts like yours feel like a slap in the face and I feel pretty confident she is marching towards the end of "believe women" out of her own narcissistic desires that thought this would be an easy win. Like if anyone were going to come forward with a false accusation? Blake and Ryan are 100 percent the types.

I’m sorry for your experience.

I don’t understand how my perspective and words here would feel like a slap in the face to you. This is my perspective. If you want to explain that more I’m willing to listen fwiw.

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Anonymous wrote:We are quickly approaching the FOFO stage for Lively and her supporters.

Ryan and Blake’s supporters are not real. As soon as the money spigot is turned off, they will all disappear. Justin and the other victims aren’t paying any shills and bot farms, they have organic support.

I am a real person who supports Blake's claims. I wouldn't say I'm a "Ryan and Blake" supporter -- I don't really care about them as actors or celebs. But I think what she's alleging likely happened and that it's not right for a woman to be treated that way on a film set by a director. I am a survivor of workplace harassment and sexual assault, and have worked as an advocate for SA/SH survivors since then (through the same organization where I found solace when I was dealing with PTSD from my experience).

I don't think Blake's experience is the worst example of SH I've ever heard of, far from it, and certainly she's better resourced and supported than the vast majority of survivors. But that's a reason to support her, not to dismiss her. Most survivors don't have the means or support system to get justice. I didn't -- I quit my job, dealt with my harasser saying negative things about me to former colleagues and preemptively calling me a liar and criticizing my mental health to pre-empt me coming forward with allegations, went into a different industry, got therapy, and moved on. It was unsatisfying but the best outcome for me, as I know trying to sue would have been horrible to go through and I didn't have a good support system at the time. But that makes it all the more important for people who are in a position to litigate, and who can deal with the inevitable character attacks and expenses, to do so.

FTR, if it came out that it was all a lie and that Baldoni was great on set and she made up all these allegations, I will retract my support. But right now I believe her and would like to hear from witnesses and hear both Baldoni and Lively testify. I think she'll be proven truthful in the end, I just hope people listen to her.

Hey, thank you for this serious response. To be honest, I am not surprised you support Lively here in part because you have actually been sexually assaulted/harassed but were not in a position to sue and understand how difficult it is to report and to be taken seriously as a victim. Your experience resonates with me, too. I have said it before here, but I have also been sexually harassed both at and outside of work, and in every case except one I just moved forward and moved on because I could not deal with the fallout that would happen to me as a result of reporting. The one case that I did report had no effect on me because I was a prospective employee who declined the job offer so I wouldn't need the situation following me into my new job. Every other time I just kept my mouth shut.

The most and possibly only successful result I have seen come out of a sexual harassment suit or exposure (besides the NYT exposure of Weinstein) was Taylor Swift suing that gross DJ for $1 to prove a point. She didn't give them her medical records so they couldn't tear her down; she wasn't suing him for real money. Women who speak out to try to warn others get scrutinized and pilloried, time and time over. Famous cases I know of are Anita Hill, Christine Blasey Ford, Amber Heard, Bill Cosby's accuser (who also got sued for defamation) Andrea Constand, Juanita Broaddrick, Monica Lewinski. None of these women besides Constand were ultimately taken seriously (and even Cosby got his sentence thrown out), and all of them were mocked and derided for coming forward. Just like people on this board are doing. All of them had lies told about them that other people believed and used to mock them. That's the way women are treated.

It's not right. I agree with you that if facts come out showing that the SH or retaliation didn't actually happen, I'll withdraw my support. But like you, I believe Lively mostly experienced what is in her complaint. (I frankly don't care if every single detail is correct. To me there is no real difference between "You smell good" and "You smell so good.") I believe her, and I also hope real details come out about the retaliation campaign, because if that can be proven, it would help so many women going forward.

I'm a real person too and I believe her.

And further, in the instant case, she said her tanning lotion smelled and THEN he commented on it. He said it smells good. Watch the freaking video.

I've seen the video. She was trying to tell him to keep his distance by suggesting her tanning lotion smelled (i.e., so stay away). But he used it as an excuse to get closer, saying it smelled good! That was the opposite of what she wanted. She was trying to make the scene light and talky, and he kept trying to make it about kissing and being physically close. No kissing was scripted here.

Wow, you live in your own, very warped world.

He signed the 17 point checklist.
He agreed to no more unscripted nudity, kissing, sex, etc.
He agreed to no more discussions about porn, Lively’s non-exposure to porn, lack of consent.
He agreed to no more open screens with whole crew during cast nudity, or open sets during same.
He agreed to producer and intimacy coordinator on set at certain times.
He promised not to retaliate.
He hired the same crisis PR team as Amber Heard.
He wanted them to make him feel more protected. They responded to one another that they could bury anyone.
But they wouldn’t say exactly what they would do in writing, because that could get them in trouble.
Heath, Baldoni, and the PR reps had many in person conversations and calls that are not captured in these texts.
Baldoni says he needs something like the PR campaign against Hailey Bieber.
The PR reps said their campaign would be untraceable.
Why was untraceability so important if what he was doing was just boosting his own name and not hurting hers?
It was because he had promised not to retaliate, and what he was doing was retaliating, so he needed it to be untraceable.

Way to prove my point! There is nothing normal about your refusal to put things in context.

It's a very Blake way of thinking. Like raking an interviewer over the coals for asking about a complicated wardrobe in a period piece as if it's some super misogynistic question. Twisted.

Seems like you guys think Lively should have just shut up and agreed to the extra nudity, extra climax simulation on screen, weird toplessness during childbirth scene, porn convos, shooting of sex scene with actors playing underage characters either unscripted simulated climaxing and gross Baldoni remark about it being hot, remarks about him talking to her dead dad, petulance and retaliation when confronted etc — and just shut up about it. Stay in your place. Let the man do his thing.

One thing that’s actually twisted is stealing the ideas of a dying man for your film. Another is making your proposal video to your wife all about yourself.

Again, absolutely no connection to reality .

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I've seen the video. She was trying to tell him to keep his distance by suggesting her tanning lotion smelled (i.e., so stay away). But he used it as an excuse to get closer, saying it smelled good! That was the opposite of what she wanted. She was trying to make the scene light and talky, and he kept trying to make it about kissing and being physically close. No kissing was scripted here.

lol. Literally all actual receipts shows he repeatedly rejected her honey trap bait and innuendo-filled advances and was a professional gentlemen, but TRUST US, this hearsay is totally true this one time and he TOTALLY wanted to kiss this deluded middle aged washed up actress when a scene didn't call for a kiss. Nobody believes this fake, clutch my pearls crap.

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Anonymous wrote:We are quickly approaching the FOFO stage for Lively and her supporters.

Ryan and Blake’s supporters are not real. As soon as the money spigot is turned off, they will all disappear. Justin and the other victims aren’t paying any shills and bot farms, they have organic support.

I am a real person who supports Blake's claims. I wouldn't say I'm a "Ryan and Blake" supporter -- I don't really care about them as actors or celebs. But I think what she's alleging likely happened and that it's not right for a woman to be treated that way on a film set by a director. I am a survivor of workplace harassment and sexual assault, and have worked as an advocate for SA/SH survivors since then (through the same organization where I found solace when I was dealing with PTSD from my experience).

I don't think Blake's experience is the worst example of SH I've ever heard of, far from it, and certainly she's better resourced and supported than the vast majority of survivors. But that's a reason to support her, not to dismiss her. Most survivors don't have the means or support system to get justice. I didn't -- I quit my job, dealt with my harasser saying negative things about me to former colleagues and preemptively calling me a liar and criticizing my mental health to pre-empt me coming forward with allegations, went into a different industry, got therapy, and moved on. It was unsatisfying but the best outcome for me, as I know trying to sue would have been horrible to go through and I didn't have a good support system at the time. But that makes it all the more important for people who are in a position to litigate, and who can deal with the inevitable character attacks and expenses, to do so.

FTR, if it came out that it was all a lie and that Baldoni was great on set and she made up all these allegations, I will retract my support. But right now I believe her and would like to hear from witnesses and hear both Baldoni and Lively testify. I think she'll be proven truthful in the end, I just hope people listen to her.

Hey, thank you for this serious response. To be honest, I am not surprised you support Lively here in part because you have actually been sexually assaulted/harassed but were not in a position to sue and understand how difficult it is to report and to be taken seriously as a victim. Your experience resonates with me, too. I have said it before here, but I have also been sexually harassed both at and outside of work, and in every case except one I just moved forward and moved on because I could not deal with the fallout that would happen to me as a result of reporting. The one case that I did report had no effect on me because I was a prospective employee who declined the job offer so I wouldn't need the situation following me into my new job. Every other time I just kept my mouth shut.

The most and possibly only successful result I have seen come out of a sexual harassment suit or exposure (besides the NYT exposure of Weinstein) was Taylor Swift suing that gross DJ for $1 to prove a point. She didn't give them her medical records so they couldn't tear her down; she wasn't suing him for real money. Women who speak out to try to warn others get scrutinized and pilloried, time and time over. Famous cases I know of are Anita Hill, Christine Blasey Ford, Amber Heard, Bill Cosby's accuser (who also got sued for defamation) Andrea Constand, Juanita Broaddrick, Monica Lewinski. None of these women besides Constand were ultimately taken seriously (and even Cosby got his sentence thrown out), and all of them were mocked and derided for coming forward. Just like people on this board are doing. All of them had lies told about them that other people believed and used to mock them. That's the way women are treated.

It's not right. I agree with you that if facts come out showing that the SH or retaliation didn't actually happen, I'll withdraw my support. But like you, I believe Lively mostly experienced what is in her complaint. (I frankly don't care if every single detail is correct. To me there is no real difference between "You smell good" and "You smell so good.") I believe her, and I also hope real details come out about the retaliation campaign, because if that can be proven, it would help so many women going forward.

I'm a real person too and I believe her.

And further, in the instant case, she said her tanning lotion smelled and THEN he commented on it. He said it smells good. Watch the freaking video.

I've seen the video. She was trying to tell him to keep his distance by suggesting her tanning lotion smelled (i.e., so stay away). But he used it as an excuse to get closer, saying it smelled good! That was the opposite of what she wanted. She was trying to make the scene light and talky, and he kept trying to make it about kissing and being physically close. No kissing was scripted here.

Wow, you live in your own, very warped world.

He signed the 17 point checklist.
He agreed to no more unscripted nudity, kissing, sex, etc.
He agreed to no more discussions about porn, Lively’s non-exposure to porn, lack of consent.
He agreed to no more open screens with whole crew during cast nudity, or open sets during same.
He agreed to producer and intimacy coordinator on set at certain times.
He promised not to retaliate.
He hired the same crisis PR team as Amber Heard.
He wanted them to make him feel more protected. They responded to one another that they could bury anyone.
But they wouldn’t say exactly what they would do in writing, because that could get them in trouble.
Heath, Baldoni, and the PR reps had many in person conversations and calls that are not captured in these texts.
Baldoni says he needs something like the PR campaign against Hailey Bieber.
The PR reps said their campaign would be untraceable.
Why was untraceability so important if what he was doing was just boosting his own name and not hurting hers?
It was because he had promised not to retaliate, and what he was doing was retaliating, so he needed it to be untraceable.

Way to prove my point! There is nothing normal about your refusal to put things in context.

It's a very Blake way of thinking. Like raking an interviewer over the coals for asking about a complicated wardrobe in a period piece as if it's some super misogynistic question. Twisted.

Seems like you guys think Lively should have just shut up and agreed to the extra nudity, extra climax simulation on screen, weird toplessness during childbirth scene, porn convos, shooting of sex scene with actors playing underage characters either unscripted simulated climaxing and gross Baldoni remark about it being hot, remarks about him talking to her dead dad, petulance and retaliation when confronted etc — and just shut up about it. Stay in your place. Let the man do his thing.

One thing that’s actually twisted is stealing the ideas of a dying man for your film. Another is making your proposal video to your wife all about yourself.

Again, absolutely no connection to reality .

Right. The actual receipts all show her and her husband being the inappropriate ones.

[Anonymous]

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I've seen the video. She was trying to tell him to keep his distance by suggesting her tanning lotion smelled (i.e., so stay away). But he used it as an excuse to get closer, saying it smelled good! That was the opposite of what she wanted. She was trying to make the scene light and talky, and he kept trying to make it about kissing and being physically close. No kissing was scripted here.

lol. Literally all actual receipts shows he repeatedly rejected her honey trap bait and innuendo-filled advances and was a professional gentlemen, but TRUST US, this hearsay is totally true this one time and he TOTALLY wanted to kiss this deluded middle aged washed up actress when a scene didn't call for a kiss. Nobody believes this fake, clutch my pearls crap.

You can point out her lies without spewing this garbage.

[Anonymous]

Why do I still see 800-word posts on here? Didn't that pro-Lively poster proclaim she was leaving to discuss this case with the "sensible" pro-Lively camp?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do I still see 800-word posts on here? Didn't that pro-Lively poster proclaim she was leaving to discuss this case with the "sensible" pro-Lively camp?

So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.

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Anonymous wrote:We are quickly approaching the FOFO stage for Lively and her supporters.

Ryan and Blake’s supporters are not real. As soon as the money spigot is turned off, they will all disappear. Justin and the other victims aren’t paying any shills and bot farms, they have organic support.

I am a real person who supports Blake's claims. I wouldn't say I'm a "Ryan and Blake" supporter -- I don't really care about them as actors or celebs. But I think what she's alleging likely happened and that it's not right for a woman to be treated that way on a film set by a director. I am a survivor of workplace harassment and sexual assault, and have worked as an advocate for SA/SH survivors since then (through the same organization where I found solace when I was dealing with PTSD from my experience).

I don't think Blake's experience is the worst example of SH I've ever heard of, far from it, and certainly she's better resourced and supported than the vast majority of survivors. But that's a reason to support her, not to dismiss her. Most survivors don't have the means or support system to get justice. I didn't -- I quit my job, dealt with my harasser saying negative things about me to former colleagues and preemptively calling me a liar and criticizing my mental health to pre-empt me coming forward with allegations, went into a different industry, got therapy, and moved on. It was unsatisfying but the best outcome for me, as I know trying to sue would have been horrible to go through and I didn't have a good support system at the time. But that makes it all the more important for people who are in a position to litigate, and who can deal with the inevitable character attacks and expenses, to do so.

FTR, if it came out that it was all a lie and that Baldoni was great on set and she made up all these allegations, I will retract my support. But right now I believe her and would like to hear from witnesses and hear both Baldoni and Lively testify. I think she'll be proven truthful in the end, I just hope people listen to her.

Hey, thank you for this serious response. To be honest, I am not surprised you support Lively here in part because you have actually been sexually assaulted/harassed but were not in a position to sue and understand how difficult it is to report and to be taken seriously as a victim. Your experience resonates with me, too. I have said it before here, but I have also been sexually harassed both at and outside of work, and in every case except one I just moved forward and moved on because I could not deal with the fallout that would happen to me as a result of reporting. The one case that I did report had no effect on me because I was a prospective employee who declined the job offer so I wouldn't need the situation following me into my new job. Every other time I just kept my mouth shut.

The most and possibly only successful result I have seen come out of a sexual harassment suit or exposure (besides the NYT exposure of Weinstein) was Taylor Swift suing that gross DJ for $1 to prove a point. She didn't give them her medical records so they couldn't tear her down; she wasn't suing him for real money. Women who speak out to try to warn others get scrutinized and pilloried, time and time over. Famous cases I know of are Anita Hill, Christine Blasey Ford, Amber Heard, Bill Cosby's accuser (who also got sued for defamation) Andrea Constand, Juanita Broaddrick, Monica Lewinski. None of these women besides Constand were ultimately taken seriously (and even Cosby got his sentence thrown out), and all of them were mocked and derided for coming forward. Just like people on this board are doing. All of them had lies told about them that other people believed and used to mock them. That's the way women are treated.

It's not right. I agree with you that if facts come out showing that the SH or retaliation didn't actually happen, I'll withdraw my support. But like you, I believe Lively mostly experienced what is in her complaint. (I frankly don't care if every single detail is correct. To me there is no real difference between "You smell good" and "You smell so good.") I believe her, and I also hope real details come out about the retaliation campaign, because if that can be proven, it would help so many women going forward.

I'm a real person too and I believe her.

And further, in the instant case, she said her tanning lotion smelled and THEN he commented on it. He said it smells good. Watch the freaking video.

I've seen the video. She was trying to tell him to keep his distance by suggesting her tanning lotion smelled (i.e., so stay away). But he used it as an excuse to get closer, saying it smelled good! That was the opposite of what she wanted. She was trying to make the scene light and talky, and he kept trying to make it about kissing and being physically close. No kissing was scripted here.

Agree with this take.

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Anonymous wrote:We are quickly approaching the FOFO stage for Lively and her supporters.

Ryan and Blake’s supporters are not real. As soon as the money spigot is turned off, they will all disappear. Justin and the other victims aren’t paying any shills and bot farms, they have organic support.

I am a real person who supports Blake's claims. I wouldn't say I'm a "Ryan and Blake" supporter -- I don't really care about them as actors or celebs. But I think what she's alleging likely happened and that it's not right for a woman to be treated that way on a film set by a director. I am a survivor of workplace harassment and sexual assault, and have worked as an advocate for SA/SH survivors since then (through the same organization where I found solace when I was dealing with PTSD from my experience).

I don't think Blake's experience is the worst example of SH I've ever heard of, far from it, and certainly she's better resourced and supported than the vast majority of survivors. But that's a reason to support her, not to dismiss her. Most survivors don't have the means or support system to get justice. I didn't -- I quit my job, dealt with my harasser saying negative things about me to former colleagues and preemptively calling me a liar and criticizing my mental health to pre-empt me coming forward with allegations, went into a different industry, got therapy, and moved on. It was unsatisfying but the best outcome for me, as I know trying to sue would have been horrible to go through and I didn't have a good support system at the time. But that makes it all the more important for people who are in a position to litigate, and who can deal with the inevitable character attacks and expenses, to do so.

FTR, if it came out that it was all a lie and that Baldoni was great on set and she made up all these allegations, I will retract my support. But right now I believe her and would like to hear from witnesses and hear both Baldoni and Lively testify. I think she'll be proven truthful in the end, I just hope people listen to her.

Hey, thank you for this serious response. To be honest, I am not surprised you support Lively here in part because you have actually been sexually assaulted/harassed but were not in a position to sue and understand how difficult it is to report and to be taken seriously as a victim. Your experience resonates with me, too. I have said it before here, but I have also been sexually harassed both at and outside of work, and in every case except one I just moved forward and moved on because I could not deal with the fallout that would happen to me as a result of reporting. The one case that I did report had no effect on me because I was a prospective employee who declined the job offer so I wouldn't need the situation following me into my new job. Every other time I just kept my mouth shut.

The most and possibly only successful result I have seen come out of a sexual harassment suit or exposure (besides the NYT exposure of Weinstein) was Taylor Swift suing that gross DJ for $1 to prove a point. She didn't give them her medical records so they couldn't tear her down; she wasn't suing him for real money. Women who speak out to try to warn others get scrutinized and pilloried, time and time over. Famous cases I know of are Anita Hill, Christine Blasey Ford, Amber Heard, Bill Cosby's accuser (who also got sued for defamation) Andrea Constand, Juanita Broaddrick, Monica Lewinski. None of these women besides Constand were ultimately taken seriously (and even Cosby got his sentence thrown out), and all of them were mocked and derided for coming forward. Just like people on this board are doing. All of them had lies told about them that other people believed and used to mock them. That's the way women are treated.

It's not right. I agree with you that if facts come out showing that the SH or retaliation didn't actually happen, I'll withdraw my support. But like you, I believe Lively mostly experienced what is in her complaint. (I frankly don't care if every single detail is correct. To me there is no real difference between "You smell good" and "You smell so good.") I believe her, and I also hope real details come out about the retaliation campaign, because if that can be proven, it would help so many women going forward.

I'm a real person too and I believe her.

And further, in the instant case, she said her tanning lotion smelled and THEN he commented on it. He said it smells good. Watch the freaking video.

I've seen the video. She was trying to tell him to keep his distance by suggesting her tanning lotion smelled (i.e., so stay away). But he used it as an excuse to get closer, saying it smelled good! That was the opposite of what she wanted. She was trying to make the scene light and talky, and he kept trying to make it about kissing and being physically close. No kissing was scripted here.

Agree with this take.

Same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are quickly approaching the FOFO stage for Lively and her supporters.

Ryan and Blake’s supporters are not real. As soon as the money spigot is turned off, they will all disappear. Justin and the other victims aren’t paying any shills and bot farms, they have organic support.

I am a real person who supports Blake's claims. I wouldn't say I'm a "Ryan and Blake" supporter -- I don't really care about them as actors or celebs. But I think what she's alleging likely happened and that it's not right for a woman to be treated that way on a film set by a director. I am a survivor of workplace harassment and sexual assault, and have worked as an advocate for SA/SH survivors since then (through the same organization where I found solace when I was dealing with PTSD from my experience).

I don't think Blake's experience is the worst example of SH I've ever heard of, far from it, and certainly she's better resourced and supported than the vast majority of survivors. But that's a reason to support her, not to dismiss her. Most survivors don't have the means or support system to get justice. I didn't -- I quit my job, dealt with my harasser saying negative things about me to former colleagues and preemptively calling me a liar and criticizing my mental health to pre-empt me coming forward with allegations, went into a different industry, got therapy, and moved on. It was unsatisfying but the best outcome for me, as I know trying to sue would have been horrible to go through and I didn't have a good support system at the time. But that makes it all the more important for people who are in a position to litigate, and who can deal with the inevitable character attacks and expenses, to do so.

FTR, if it came out that it was all a lie and that Baldoni was great on set and she made up all these allegations, I will retract my support. But right now I believe her and would like to hear from witnesses and hear both Baldoni and Lively testify. I think she'll be proven truthful in the end, I just hope people listen to her.

But that’s the thing, she shouldn’t have to show he was great onset. It could have been a poorly run set and he could not have been great, that doesn’t mean that he sexually harassed her. That’s the problem I have with her claims. I’ve no doubt that she experienced some discomfort, but I don’t think it meets the bar of sexual harassment.

It is within his realm to ask her to do certain scenes and she didn’t want to do them so she didn’t do them. If that conversation is uncomfortable you should not be an actress doing these kinds of movies. You simply shouldn’t. she had a ton of people supporting her, she was never not without her assistant and team on set with her and then the moment she felt uncomfortable she had her very powerful husband and a Sony producer. She was much more powerful than him and had a set of ridiculous harassing behaviors on her own. Inviting someone to your apartment so your husband can berate him is harassment. Constantly having your lawyer send threatening letters that you’re going to quit and derailed the movie is harassment. Violating his right as a director to get in the editing bay when she had no way to do that is harassment.