Can you see the GBRS result?

[Anonymous]

We are new to this area and DD entered an FCPS school this August. I was told by her teacher that she believed my DD would get into the AAP during a parent-teacher conference. Does that mean that the teacher wrote good things in the GBRS? Can parents eventually see the scores? Thanks!

[Anonymous]

You can request a copy of the review packet that your school prepares and sends to the general screening committee. Once the packet leaves the school, you can see it.

[Anonymous]

Gbrs is not going to be used this cycle

[Anonymous]

They are using HOPE rating this year instead of GBRS. GBRS is developed by FCPS and George Mason University and only used by FCPS. HOPE is used more widely.

And you can request a copy from AART when they submit your child's package to the selection committee.

[Anonymous]

I have had two kids go through this process. Kid #1 - at PT conference, teacher said stuff like, "Well, I assume he will get be in AAP next year and that will be really good for him." That was without us bringing it up. Got a 16 on GBRS under old number system.

Kid #2. Teacher had lots of positive things to say, didn't mention AAP. I said, he plan to refer her for AAP, do you think that would be appropriate? She says, "oh yes, absolutely, I imagine she will be in pool, but do refer. She definitely belongs in AAP. 4Cs on GBRS.

For both, I requested to see a copy of the packet after we received the kids acceptance notifications. I think I was told we could not request it before that.

Sample size of 2--but yes, the teachers saying they belonged in AAP (prompted or not) meant strongest possible GBRS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have had two kids go through this process. Kid #1 - at PT conference, teacher said stuff like, "Well, I assume he will get be in AAP next year and that will be really good for him." That was without us bringing it up. Got a 16 on GBRS under old number system.

Kid #2. Teacher had lots of positive things to say, didn't mention AAP. I said, he plan to refer her for AAP, do you think that would be appropriate? She says, "oh yes, absolutely, I imagine she will be in pool, but do refer. She definitely belongs in AAP. 4Cs on GBRS.

For both, I requested to see a copy of the packet after we received the kids acceptance notifications. I think I was told we could not request it before that.

Sample size of 2--but yes, the teachers saying they belonged in AAP (prompted or not) meant strongest possible GBRS.

Sample size of 1 but we had the same experience with Kid #1. We're on Kid #2 and Kid #2 did not get same positive response during a parent-teacher conference. We'll see what happens, but we don't expect Kid #2 to get in.

FCPS has all this fake process around the AAP referral/application (e.g., parent referral, HOPE/GBRS scale, COGAT/NNAT, etc.), but in the end of the day, what the teacher "feels" is all that really matters. Everything else is just fluff. FCPS will say that a central committee decides, but that's meaningless. The central committee only cares about what the teacher tells them and probably doesn't even look at the parent referral, if I had to guess. Bottom line is that if the teacher doesn't like your kid, your kid won't get into AAP.

I'd much prefer a system where it's purely test scores that anyone and everyone can game then this current one based on teacher "feelings" about a student.

[Anonymous]

It’s not too late to get on the teacher’s good side

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have had two kids go through this process. Kid #1 - at PT conference, teacher said stuff like, "Well, I assume he will get be in AAP next year and that will be really good for him." That was without us bringing it up. Got a 16 on GBRS under old number system.

Kid #2. Teacher had lots of positive things to say, didn't mention AAP. I said, he plan to refer her for AAP, do you think that would be appropriate? She says, "oh yes, absolutely, I imagine she will be in pool, but do refer. She definitely belongs in AAP. 4Cs on GBRS.

For both, I requested to see a copy of the packet after we received the kids acceptance notifications. I think I was told we could not request it before that.

Sample size of 2--but yes, the teachers saying they belonged in AAP (prompted or not) meant strongest possible GBRS.

Sample size of 1 but we had the same experience with Kid #1. We're on Kid #2 and Kid #2 did not get same positive response during a parent-teacher conference. We'll see what happens, but we don't expect Kid #2 to get in.

FCPS has all this fake process around the AAP referral/application (e.g., parent referral, HOPE/GBRS scale, COGAT/NNAT, etc.), but in the end of the day, what the teacher "feels" is all that really matters. Everything else is just fluff. FCPS will say that a central committee decides, but that's meaningless. The central committee only cares about what the teacher tells them and probably doesn't even look at the parent referral, if I had to guess. Bottom line is that if the teacher doesn't like your kid, your kid won't get into AAP.

I'd much prefer a system where it's purely test scores that anyone and everyone can game then this current one based on teacher "feelings" about a student.

Wow, is this untrue. The central committee ROUTINELY makes decisions that completely baffle the classroom teachers— both accepting and rejecting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have had two kids go through this process. Kid #1 - at PT conference, teacher said stuff like, "Well, I assume he will get be in AAP next year and that will be really good for him." That was without us bringing it up. Got a 16 on GBRS under old number system.

Kid #2. Teacher had lots of positive things to say, didn't mention AAP. I said, he plan to refer her for AAP, do you think that would be appropriate? She says, "oh yes, absolutely, I imagine she will be in pool, but do refer. She definitely belongs in AAP. 4Cs on GBRS.

For both, I requested to see a copy of the packet after we received the kids acceptance notifications. I think I was told we could not request it before that.

Sample size of 2--but yes, the teachers saying they belonged in AAP (prompted or not) meant strongest possible GBRS.

Sample size of 1 but we had the same experience with Kid #1. We're on Kid #2 and Kid #2 did not get same positive response during a parent-teacher conference. We'll see what happens, but we don't expect Kid #2 to get in.

FCPS has all this fake process around the AAP referral/application (e.g., parent referral, HOPE/GBRS scale, COGAT/NNAT, etc.), but in the end of the day, what the teacher "feels" is all that really matters. Everything else is just fluff. FCPS will say that a central committee decides, but that's meaningless. The central committee only cares about what the teacher tells them and probably doesn't even look at the parent referral, if I had to guess. Bottom line is that if the teacher doesn't like your kid, your kid won't get into AAP.

I'd much prefer a system where it's purely test scores that anyone and everyone can game then this current one based on teacher "feelings" about a student.

Wow, is this untrue. The central committee ROUTINELY makes decisions that completely baffle the classroom teachers— both accepting and rejecting.

I wish you were right, but I have yet to see this.

[Anonymous]

OP here. Thanks for all the input! I think we'll find out how they evaluate a little bit on my case. Since we are new to the school district, so I'll get notified before next semester.
DD did well on her first iready (both 15-20pts above 99 percentile cutoff) or any other tests in the new school. Her current teacher used strong words to describe her talents during the conference (not sure if that's sincere or just being polite). However, her CogAT score wouldn't be good since she didn't finish the tests. She starts to show a tendency of perfectionism recently so she spent too much time making sure she didn't make any mistakes doing CogAT and boom, time's up. So I am actually pretty curious if she'll get in AAP. I think she belongs there. But who knows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for all the input! I think we'll find out how they evaluate a little bit on my case. Since we are new to the school district, so I'll get notified before next semester.
DD did well on her first iready (both 15-20pts above 99 percentile cutoff) or any other tests in the new school. Her current teacher used strong words to describe her talents during the conference (not sure if that's sincere or just being polite). However, her CogAT score wouldn't be good since she didn't finish the tests. She starts to show a tendency of perfectionism recently so she spent too much time making sure she didn't make any mistakes doing CogAT and boom, time's up. So I am actually pretty curious if she'll get in AAP. I think she belongs there. But who knows.

I didn't think the CogAT was timeboxed. Our AART told us they wait for every kid to finish. Is that not the case?

[Anonymous]

If you're taking it at an older age it becomes timed. At 2nd grade it is not. OP said they're a transfer, so I'm guessing their student isn't in 2nd grade

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you're taking it at an older age it becomes timed. At 2nd grade it is not. OP said they're a transfer, so I'm guessing their student isn't in 2nd grade

Exactly. It's timed. DD is in 4th grade. This is like the first timed exam she's ever taken so she didn't finish, which is a bummer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for all the input! I think we'll find out how they evaluate a little bit on my case. Since we are new to the school district, so I'll get notified before next semester.
DD did well on her first iready (both 15-20pts above 99 percentile cutoff) or any other tests in the new school. Her current teacher used strong words to describe her talents during the conference (not sure if that's sincere or just being polite). However, her CogAT score wouldn't be good since she didn't finish the tests. She starts to show a tendency of perfectionism recently so she spent too much time making sure she didn't make any mistakes doing CogAT and boom, time's up. So I am actually pretty curious if she'll get in AAP. I think she belongs there. But who knows.

Since you are in the early cycle and up for review this month you should be able to request your child’s packet now. The central office should have it by now. So you can see the teachers evaluation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have had two kids go through this process. Kid #1 - at PT conference, teacher said stuff like, "Well, I assume he will get be in AAP next year and that will be really good for him." That was without us bringing it up. Got a 16 on GBRS under old number system.

Kid #2. Teacher had lots of positive things to say, didn't mention AAP. I said, he plan to refer her for AAP, do you think that would be appropriate? She says, "oh yes, absolutely, I imagine she will be in pool, but do refer. She definitely belongs in AAP. 4Cs on GBRS.

For both, I requested to see a copy of the packet after we received the kids acceptance notifications. I think I was told we could not request it before that.

Sample size of 2--but yes, the teachers saying they belonged in AAP (prompted or not) meant strongest possible GBRS.

Sample size of 1 but we had the same experience with Kid #1. We're on Kid #2 and Kid #2 did not get same positive response during a parent-teacher conference. We'll see what happens, but we don't expect Kid #2 to get in.

FCPS has all this fake process around the AAP referral/application (e.g., parent referral, HOPE/GBRS scale, COGAT/NNAT, etc.), but in the end of the day, what the teacher "feels" is all that really matters. Everything else is just fluff. FCPS will say that a central committee decides, but that's meaningless. The central committee only cares about what the teacher tells them and probably doesn't even look at the parent referral, if I had to guess. Bottom line is that if the teacher doesn't like your kid, your kid won't get into AAP.

I'd much prefer a system where it's purely test scores that anyone and everyone can game then this current one based on teacher "feelings" about a student.

Wow, is this untrue. The central committee ROUTINELY makes decisions that completely baffle the classroom teachers— both accepting and rejecting.

This. Both of my kids actually defied the PP's assertion, but in different ways. Kid #1 had high test scores, above grade level in all subjects, decent work samples, and a 15 GBRS. Kid still got rejected, but in later on appeal. When we met with the AART, the AART said that every year, kids she thought were slam dunk would get rejected and other kids who she thought had nothing to indicate AAP placement would get in. Kid #2 was multiple years above grade level in all subjects, had CogAT and WISC both 140+, had stellar work samples, and still got in with a low GBRS.