AP Statistics as a 10th grade elective

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for a strong math student in a IB program. Is that doable? Good idea?

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Yes, my child took that class as a 10th grade IB student and did well in both the class and on the AP exam. He is very strong in math.

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The earliest one can take statistics in concurrent enrollment with Precalculus.

Just be mindful that there are fewer students getting a 5 in Statistics than getting a 5 in Calculus BC, because it involves subtle contextual application of concepts. Also statistics sort of uses calculus without calling it calculus, so there can be a pitfall of blind application of formulas without solid understanding of material and then pay the price on the AP exam.

What will the student take later in the IB program? The highest level of IB math is a mix of precalculus, calculus, statistics, not sure it’s worth going through the concepts again.

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Op here. My student is taking precalc, on track to AP calc BC， and IB HL. Just thought having statistics early can help with some research projects later.

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AP Calc BC with Stat is doable. Not sure I see the point for IB HL (2 years?) that would have almost 100% overlap with classes he has taken before. In my view it would be better to continue with Multivariable, Lin algebra and diff equations.

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I think Stat after AP calc makes more sense since Stats uses Calc.

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Anonymous wrote:The earliest one can take statistics in concurrent enrollment with Precalculus.

Just be mindful that there are fewer students getting a 5 in Statistics than getting a 5 in Calculus BC, because it involves subtle contextual application of concepts. Also statistics sort of uses calculus without calling it calculus, so there can be a pitfall of blind application of formulas without solid understanding of material and then pay the price on the AP exam.

What will the student take later in the IB program? The highest level of IB math is a mix of precalculus, calculus, statistics, not sure it’s worth going through the concepts again.

You've got your own subtle pitfall of statistics and calculus there.
Calc BC gets more 5s because Calc BC has a far stronger cohort of students than Statistics.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. My student is taking precalc, on track to AP calc BC， and IB HL. Just thought having statistics early can help with some research projects later.

STEM magnets have a required early statistics course for this reason.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The earliest one can take statistics in concurrent enrollment with Precalculus.

Just be mindful that there are fewer students getting a 5 in Statistics than getting a 5 in Calculus BC, because it involves subtle contextual application of concepts. Also statistics sort of uses calculus without calling it calculus, so there can be a pitfall of blind application of formulas without solid understanding of material and then pay the price on the AP exam.

What will the student take later in the IB program? The highest level of IB math is a mix of precalculus, calculus, statistics, not sure it’s worth going through the concepts again.

You've got your own subtle pitfall of statistics and calculus there.
Calc BC gets more 5s because Calc BC has a far stronger cohort of students than Statistics.

Your logic is a faulty, you are assuming strong students take BC, weak students take Stat. I’m assuming strong students take both, which is far more likely.

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Anonymous wrote:AP Calc BC with Stat is doable. Not sure I see the point for IB HL (2 years?) that would have almost 100% overlap with classes he has taken before. In my view it would be better to continue with Multivariable, Lin algebra and diff equations.

NP. I thought the first year of IB HL is AP stats BC.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The earliest one can take statistics in concurrent enrollment with Precalculus.

Just be mindful that there are fewer students getting a 5 in Statistics than getting a 5 in Calculus BC, because it involves subtle contextual application of concepts. Also statistics sort of uses calculus without calling it calculus, so there can be a pitfall of blind application of formulas without solid understanding of material and then pay the price on the AP exam.

What will the student take later in the IB program? The highest level of IB math is a mix of precalculus, calculus, statistics, not sure it’s worth going through the concepts again.

You've got your own subtle pitfall of statistics and calculus there.
Calc BC gets more 5s because Calc BC has a far stronger cohort of students than Statistics.

Your logic is a faulty, you are assuming strong students take BC, weak students take Stat. I’m assuming strong students take both, which is far more likely.

Nope. Other PP is correct. Many students take AP stats whereas only the most competitive math students take calc BC

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP Calc BC with Stat is doable. Not sure I see the point for IB HL (2 years?) that would have almost 100% overlap with classes he has taken before. In my view it would be better to continue with Multivariable, Lin algebra and diff equations.

NP. I thought the first year of IB HL is AP stats BC.

This is where I read it: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ehY2t5oXC1kh6Aog_DKanaR8YtznD2xDgwjRu-3fg50/edit

For IB math HL senior year, students take AP calc BC either in 10th or 11th grade (though I have to think most kids are taking it in 11th).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The earliest one can take statistics in concurrent enrollment with Precalculus.

Just be mindful that there are fewer students getting a 5 in Statistics than getting a 5 in Calculus BC, because it involves subtle contextual application of concepts. Also statistics sort of uses calculus without calling it calculus, so there can be a pitfall of blind application of formulas without solid understanding of material and then pay the price on the AP exam.

What will the student take later in the IB program? The highest level of IB math is a mix of precalculus, calculus, statistics, not sure it’s worth going through the concepts again.

You've got your own subtle pitfall of statistics and calculus there.
Calc BC gets more 5s because Calc BC has a far stronger cohort of students than Statistics.

Your logic is a faulty, you are assuming strong students take BC, weak students take Stat. I’m assuming strong students take both, which is far more likely.

Nope. Other PP is correct. Many students take AP stats whereas only the most competitive math students take calc BC

Do those most competitive students that take Calc BC and score a 5, also take AP statistics and score an easy 5?

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Can a student take ap stats first, then Ap calculus the following year. Is that doable?

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Anonymous wrote:Can a student take ap stats first, then Ap calculus the following year. Is that doable?

Yes, my kid took Precalc and AP Statistics in 10th grade, then AP Calculus BC in 11th grade. However, then you're basically locked in to multivariable calculus for 12th grade.

You do not need calculus for statistics.