Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:Social media influencers know it's fake

Please, Chickenfry is the last person to comment about a healthy relationship.

Anyone who takes someone like Chickenfry seriously has mental issues.

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It looks like the parents are all going to meet. I think it’s a serious relationship but definitely if that happens. You may orchestrate some PR relationship (I fully get those happen), you just don’t involve your family.

I also don’t think you can fake the way he’s acting and how he looks at her and vice versa. I also don’t understand the point. What’s the motivation for either of them to fake a relationship when they can both find a new person easily.

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Anonymous wrote:I know I’m being a total sap but I love this so much. I love the video of Travis and her dad. I think her dad is just as smitten! I might be naive but I don’t care, this is sweet stuff. I love love.

This exactly. I hope they get married and have a bunch of kids.

She’s 33, better hurry if she wants kids!

This is dumb af. Plenty of regular career women wait longer than that to have kids. I’m pregnant now at 30 and the average age at my OB’s office is 38 (although that isn’t all first pregnancies).

OBs lie, dear. The are salesmen/women at the end of the day. And they get paid the more old hags they can extract $30,000+ from. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Often the mother and/or baby has health issues. It is so strange how this forum tries to act like waiting until you're too old to be a mom naturally is cool, when it is actually depressing (if more ways than one) and unnatural.

Brunch granny has discovered Taylor swift!

I had my second baby mid 30s and it was not hard and there was nothing unnatural about it.

People choosing to have kids when they are considered advanced in maternal age is not really a problem for the rest of us to be concerned about. Even if they die before their kids are grown adults, I am guessing they will leave enough resources behind to ensure their kids are well provided for. I just looked up Antony Blinken. He is 61 and has a three year old child at home. Should he be home working on potty training or traveling from country to country as he's doing? Nobody questions when men have children late. So he might not be able to walk his daughter down the aisle or have a father-daughter dance with her at the wedding. Big whoop. Before you ask, his spouse is 52. TS has a billionaire dollars at her disposal. She can do whatever she wants.

Our country's special education numbers have grown dramatically in no small part due to this line of thinking.

N = 1, but: Yale grad, PhD. Public schools. No special services of any kind at any point. My Mom was 39 when I was born. I do wear glasses though, but now, at my age, most people do.

DP. I am sure your Yale education taught you that anecdotes are not data. It is well established by now that older eggs and sperm have a higher number of chromosomal alterations, and that the number of alterations tends to increase linearly with age (particularly for sperm). I think people believe that if there’s no miscarriage the embryo is just as healthy as one from younger parents. It’s unfortunately not the case. Chromosomal deletions and duplications are linked to all kinds of things including conditions that affect cognitive functioning and mental health.

If you use data to support your positions on other issues like gun violence and climate change, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to ignore data on other topics just because it goes against what you want to believe.

NP but you are cherry picking your own data. Women don't have babies in a vacuum, they have them in the real world. There is no arguing that because of sociodemographic factors, it is much better for a baby to be born to a late 30s/early 40s mom than an early 20s one. These.are.facts. Look up rates of crimes, high school graduation, overall health, etc. and you will find older moms have kids who are better off, OVERWHELMINGLY.

Talk about cherry picking! Why would the only two comparison groups be early 20s vs. late 30s/early 40s? Why exclude ages 25-35? Oh because it wouldn't fit your argument, would it?

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You can’t possibly be this dumb, can you? The point is biology versus socioeconomic demographics, so yes, you show both ends of the spectrum. a woman is very fertile and has high-quality eggs at age 20, but women who have babies much later in life tend to be much more educated, have stable, careers, and stable lives. That’s the point.

Nope, you’re the one missing the point. No one here is arguing for women to have babies at 20 years old. There’s an optimal age range that balances biology and SES demographics, and you know darn well it isn’t age 40. You created a strawman argument because the data don’t support what you want to be true.

Anyway. I agree with PP that this is stupid to discuss about a celebrity no one here knows personally who may not want children at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I know I’m being a total sap but I love this so much. I love the video of Travis and her dad. I think her dad is just as smitten! I might be naive but I don’t care, this is sweet stuff. I love love.

This exactly. I hope they get married and have a bunch of kids.

She’s 33, better hurry if she wants kids!

This is dumb af. Plenty of regular career women wait longer than that to have kids. I’m pregnant now at 30 and the average age at my OB’s office is 38 (although that isn’t all first pregnancies).

OBs lie, dear. The are salesmen/women at the end of the day. And they get paid the more old hags they can extract $30,000+ from. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Often the mother and/or baby has health issues. It is so strange how this forum tries to act like waiting until you're too old to be a mom naturally is cool, when it is actually depressing (if more ways than one) and unnatural.

Brunch granny has discovered Taylor swift!

I had my second baby mid 30s and it was not hard and there was nothing unnatural about it.

People choosing to have kids when they are considered advanced in maternal age is not really a problem for the rest of us to be concerned about. Even if they die before their kids are grown adults, I am guessing they will leave enough resources behind to ensure their kids are well provided for. I just looked up Antony Blinken. He is 61 and has a three year old child at home. Should he be home working on potty training or traveling from country to country as he's doing? Nobody questions when men have children late. So he might not be able to walk his daughter down the aisle or have a father-daughter dance with her at the wedding. Big whoop. Before you ask, his spouse is 52. TS has a billionaire dollars at her disposal. She can do whatever she wants.

Our country's special education numbers have grown dramatically in no small part due to this line of thinking.

N = 1, but: Yale grad, PhD. Public schools. No special services of any kind at any point. My Mom was 39 when I was born. I do wear glasses though, but now, at my age, most people do.

DP. I am sure your Yale education taught you that anecdotes are not data. It is well established by now that older eggs and sperm have a higher number of chromosomal alterations, and that the number of alterations tends to increase linearly with age (particularly for sperm). I think people believe that if there’s no miscarriage the embryo is just as healthy as one from younger parents. It’s unfortunately not the case. Chromosomal deletions and duplications are linked to all kinds of things including conditions that affect cognitive functioning and mental health.

If you use data to support your positions on other issues like gun violence and climate change, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to ignore data on other topics just because it goes against what you want to believe.

NP but you are cherry picking your own data. Women don't have babies in a vacuum, they have them in the real world. There is no arguing that because of sociodemographic factors, it is much better for a baby to be born to a late 30s/early 40s mom than an early 20s one. These.are.facts. Look up rates of crimes, high school graduation, overall health, etc. and you will find older moms have kids who are better off, OVERWHELMINGLY.

Talk about cherry picking! Why would the only two comparison groups be early 20s vs. late 30s/early 40s? Why exclude ages 25-35? Oh because it wouldn't fit your argument, would it?

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You can’t possibly be this dumb, can you? The point is biology versus socioeconomic demographics, so yes, you show both ends of the spectrum. a woman is very fertile and has high-quality eggs at age 20, but women who have babies much later in life tend to be much more educated, have stable, careers, and stable lives. That’s the point.

Nope, you’re the one missing the point. No one here is arguing for women to have babies at 20 years old. There’s an optimal age range that balances biology and SES demographics, and you know darn well it isn’t age 40. You created a strawman argument because the data don’t support what you want to be true.

Anyway. I agree with PP that this is stupid to discuss about a celebrity no one here knows personally who may not want children at all.

The only point was to show that biology is only one factor. There are benefits to waiting. Taylor is 33 years old… Ridiculous to claim that she’s past the age of being able to have kids.

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Just from reading about this, how she is described as being in erratic behavior, this is the guy that will change her. She's going to be knocked up soon, especially if he has a good football season. His bold move to protect her--haha-as if she doesn't have body guards, those are old school moves. It is still expected. I don't see those other puny guys she was with could even physically protect her.

Alot of whirlwind romance starts like this. When you least expect it. They make you act out of the ordinary and the next thing you know, someone makes a bold move to take it to the next level and someone is pregnant.

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If we could stop talking about babies we have a better chance of this thread not being locked (like another recent TS thread that was locked because pps insisted on talking about something (someone) on a tangent.

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Anonymous wrote:I know I’m being a total sap but I love this so much. I love the video of Travis and her dad. I think her dad is just as smitten! I might be naive but I don’t care, this is sweet stuff. I love love.

This exactly. I hope they get married and have a bunch of kids.

She’s 33, better hurry if she wants kids!

This is dumb af. Plenty of regular career women wait longer than that to have kids. I’m pregnant now at 30 and the average age at my OB’s office is 38 (although that isn’t all first pregnancies).

OBs lie, dear. The are salesmen/women at the end of the day. And they get paid the more old hags they can extract $30,000+ from. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Often the mother and/or baby has health issues. It is so strange how this forum tries to act like waiting until you're too old to be a mom naturally is cool, when it is actually depressing (if more ways than one) and unnatural.

Brunch granny has discovered Taylor swift!

I had my second baby mid 30s and it was not hard and there was nothing unnatural about it.

People choosing to have kids when they are considered advanced in maternal age is not really a problem for the rest of us to be concerned about. Even if they die before their kids are grown adults, I am guessing they will leave enough resources behind to ensure their kids are well provided for. I just looked up Antony Blinken. He is 61 and has a three year old child at home. Should he be home working on potty training or traveling from country to country as he's doing? Nobody questions when men have children late. So he might not be able to walk his daughter down the aisle or have a father-daughter dance with her at the wedding. Big whoop. Before you ask, his spouse is 52. TS has a billionaire dollars at her disposal. She can do whatever she wants.

Our country's special education numbers have grown dramatically in no small part due to this line of thinking.

N = 1, but: Yale grad, PhD. Public schools. No special services of any kind at any point. My Mom was 39 when I was born. I do wear glasses though, but now, at my age, most people do.

DP. I am sure your Yale education taught you that anecdotes are not data. It is well established by now that older eggs and sperm have a higher number of chromosomal alterations, and that the number of alterations tends to increase linearly with age (particularly for sperm). I think people believe that if there’s no miscarriage the embryo is just as healthy as one from younger parents. It’s unfortunately not the case. Chromosomal deletions and duplications are linked to all kinds of things including conditions that affect cognitive functioning and mental health.

If you use data to support your positions on other issues like gun violence and climate change, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to ignore data on other topics just because it goes against what you want to believe.

NP but you are cherry picking your own data. Women don't have babies in a vacuum, they have them in the real world. There is no arguing that because of sociodemographic factors, it is much better for a baby to be born to a late 30s/early 40s mom than an early 20s one. These.are.facts. Look up rates of crimes, high school graduation, overall health, etc. and you will find older moms have kids who are better off, OVERWHELMINGLY.

Talk about cherry picking! Why would the only two comparison groups be early 20s vs. late 30s/early 40s? Why exclude ages 25-35? Oh because it wouldn't fit your argument, would it?

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You can’t possibly be this dumb, can you? The point is biology versus socioeconomic demographics, so yes, you show both ends of the spectrum. a woman is very fertile and has high-quality eggs at age 20, but women who have babies much later in life tend to be much more educated, have stable, careers, and stable lives. That’s the point.

Nope, you’re the one missing the point. No one here is arguing for women to have babies at 20 years old. There’s an optimal age range that balances biology and SES demographics, and you know darn well it isn’t age 40. You created a strawman argument because the data don’t support what you want to be true.

Anyway. I agree with PP that this is stupid to discuss about a celebrity no one here knows personally who may not want children at all.

The only point was to show that biology is only one factor. There are benefits to waiting. Taylor is 33 years old… Ridiculous to claim that she’s past the age of being able to have kids.

there is an interview with katie curick and she was 22 and Katie asked her where she will be in 10 years and she said she would like to either be having a child or know when it will be happening.

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Anonymous wrote:I know I’m being a total sap but I love this so much. I love the video of Travis and her dad. I think her dad is just as smitten! I might be naive but I don’t care, this is sweet stuff. I love love.

This exactly. I hope they get married and have a bunch of kids.

She’s 33, better hurry if she wants kids!

This is dumb af. Plenty of regular career women wait longer than that to have kids. I’m pregnant now at 30 and the average age at my OB’s office is 38 (although that isn’t all first pregnancies).

OBs lie, dear. The are salesmen/women at the end of the day. And they get paid the more old hags they can extract $30,000+ from. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Often the mother and/or baby has health issues. It is so strange how this forum tries to act like waiting until you're too old to be a mom naturally is cool, when it is actually depressing (if more ways than one) and unnatural.

Brunch granny has discovered Taylor swift!

I had my second baby mid 30s and it was not hard and there was nothing unnatural about it.

People choosing to have kids when they are considered advanced in maternal age is not really a problem for the rest of us to be concerned about. Even if they die before their kids are grown adults, I am guessing they will leave enough resources behind to ensure their kids are well provided for. I just looked up Antony Blinken. He is 61 and has a three year old child at home. Should he be home working on potty training or traveling from country to country as he's doing? Nobody questions when men have children late. So he might not be able to walk his daughter down the aisle or have a father-daughter dance with her at the wedding. Big whoop. Before you ask, his spouse is 52. TS has a billionaire dollars at her disposal. She can do whatever she wants.

Our country's special education numbers have grown dramatically in no small part due to this line of thinking.

N = 1, but: Yale grad, PhD. Public schools. No special services of any kind at any point. My Mom was 39 when I was born. I do wear glasses though, but now, at my age, most people do.

DP. I am sure your Yale education taught you that anecdotes are not data. It is well established by now that older eggs and sperm have a higher number of chromosomal alterations, and that the number of alterations tends to increase linearly with age (particularly for sperm). I think people believe that if there’s no miscarriage the embryo is just as healthy as one from younger parents. It’s unfortunately not the case. Chromosomal deletions and duplications are linked to all kinds of things including conditions that affect cognitive functioning and mental health.

If you use data to support your positions on other issues like gun violence and climate change, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to ignore data on other topics just because it goes against what you want to believe.

NP but you are cherry picking your own data. Women don't have babies in a vacuum, they have them in the real world. There is no arguing that because of sociodemographic factors, it is much better for a baby to be born to a late 30s/early 40s mom than an early 20s one. These.are.facts. Look up rates of crimes, high school graduation, overall health, etc. and you will find older moms have kids who are better off, OVERWHELMINGLY.

Talk about cherry picking! Why would the only two comparison groups be early 20s vs. late 30s/early 40s? Why exclude ages 25-35? Oh because it wouldn't fit your argument, would it?

.

You can’t possibly be this dumb, can you? The point is biology versus socioeconomic demographics, so yes, you show both ends of the spectrum. a woman is very fertile and has high-quality eggs at age 20, but women who have babies much later in life tend to be much more educated, have stable, careers, and stable lives. That’s the point.

Nope, you’re the one missing the point. No one here is arguing for women to have babies at 20 years old. There’s an optimal age range that balances biology and SES demographics, and you know darn well it isn’t age 40. You created a strawman argument because the data don’t support what you want to be true.

Anyway. I agree with PP that this is stupid to discuss about a celebrity no one here knows personally who may not want children at all.

The only point was to show that biology is only one factor. There are benefits to waiting. Taylor is 33 years old… Ridiculous to claim that she’s past the age of being able to have kids.

there is an interview with katie curick and she was 22 and Katie asked her where she will be in 10 years and she said she would like to either be having a child or know when it will be happening.

stop please stop

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Taylor Swift is a self-made billionaire and all some people want to talk about is when she's having babies. In 2023. Pathetic.

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Can’t wait for Monday

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t wait for Monday

Hope it happens!

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t wait for Monday

Hope it happens!

SAME! If the "PR goal" is to get tired middle-aged moms to take a break from Thanksgiving prep to watch Monday night football, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. I will be there with bells on.

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the parents are all going to meet. I think it’s a serious relationship but definitely if that happens. You may orchestrate some PR relationship (I fully get those happen), you just don’t involve your family.

I also don’t think you can fake the way he’s acting and how he looks at her and vice versa. I also don’t understand the point. What’s the motivation for either of them to fake a relationship when they can both find a new person easily.

lol, Swift's dad has been the ringleader of all of her stunts for like 20 years

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the parents are all going to meet. I think it’s a serious relationship but definitely if that happens. You may orchestrate some PR relationship (I fully get those happen), you just don’t involve your family.

I also don’t think you can fake the way he’s acting and how he looks at her and vice versa. I also don’t understand the point. What’s the motivation for either of them to fake a relationship when they can both find a new person easily.

lol, Swift's dad has been the ringleader of all of her stunts for like 20 years

But why is a fabricated relationship a motivation here? If anything, given everyone saying she's a serial dater, the motivation would be to NOT date. So what's the reason for fabricating this relationship?

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the parents are all going to meet. I think it’s a serious relationship but definitely if that happens. You may orchestrate some PR relationship (I fully get those happen), you just don’t involve your family.

I also don’t think you can fake the way he’s acting and how he looks at her and vice versa. I also don’t understand the point. What’s the motivation for either of them to fake a relationship when they can both find a new person easily.

lol, Swift's dad has been the ringleader of all of her stunts for like 20 years

But why is a fabricated relationship a motivation here? If anything, given everyone saying she's a serial dater, the motivation would be to NOT date. So what's the reason for fabricating this relationship?

Top story on Google, deflects away from controversy ex. Israel
Record-breaking ratings for NFL, notably female target demo
Her movie has made $250M so far
Her tour has made $1B so far

You can listen to Travis talk in detail about this "relationship" on his podcast each week. It is all painfully fake to drum up the most publicity possible for both.