MAP percentile cutoff for MS magnet lottery?

[Anonymous]

I know MCPS doesn’t publicize this info, but does anyone know the approximate cutoff for MAP scores to be placed in the lottery pools for the MS magnets like Eastern/TPMS/Clemente etc?

95th? 90th?

Thanks!

[Anonymous]

It’s a norned 85%, so if you are in a title 1 school, maybe 85 percentile at your school mean 65 percentile county wide. Whereas some W feeders, 85 percentile means 98 percentile county wide

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s a norned 85%, so if you are in a title 1 school, maybe 85 percentile at your school mean 65 percentile county wide. Whereas some W feeders, 85 percentile means 98 percentile county wide

Not exactly there are bands for schools depending on their FARMS rate. I think it's 95%+ for a low farms school, 92% for a moderate farms school and something like 60% for a high-farms school. This likely equates to the top 15% for these schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a norned 85%, so if you are in a title 1 school, maybe 85 percentile at your school mean 65 percentile county wide. Whereas some W feeders, 85 percentile means 98 percentile county wide

Not exactly there are bands for schools depending on their FARMS rate. I think it's 95%+ for a low farms school, 92% for a moderate farms school and something like 60% for a high-farms school. This likely equates to the top 15% for these schools.

And the low-FARMSsl school students decline or return to home school because lottery Magnet isn't worthwhile for them.

[Anonymous]

Check out the info the Gifted Education Committee for MCCPTA posted on this. It has the cutoffs used by FARMs tier schools in a prior year. It will vary slightly from year to year, but it will give you a sense.

[Anonymous]

You guys are wrong. It's 93% for low farms schools and 92% for mid farms schools. No clue for Title 1 schools. There's only ONE percentile difference between low and mid (high farms but not high enough to be Title 1) schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You guys are wrong. It's 93% for low farms schools and 92% for mid farms schools. No clue for Title 1 schools. There's only ONE percentile difference between low and mid (high farms but not high enough to be Title 1) schools.

There are five tiers, but three. There is a huge difference between the first and fifth tiers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You guys are wrong. It's 93% for low farms schools and 92% for mid farms schools. No clue for Title 1 schools. There's only ONE percentile difference between low and mid (high farms but not high enough to be Title 1) schools.

The documents that show the exact numbers were obtained from FOIRA and are available in the MCCPTA gifted group on Facebook.

[Anonymous]

Math
Low farms 93
Low moderate farms 92
Moderate 84
High 60

Humanities
Low 92
Low moderate 92
High 70

[Anonymous]

That is a massive difference. I knew it was big but a child who is 93rd percentile in math is not at all the same as a child who is 60th percentile in math. I support a lot of what MCPS is trying to do with equity but a child who is 60th percentile in math does not need to be in a math magnet.

[Anonymous]

They need to bring back the Cogat which is not based on achievement but on potential.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That is a massive difference. I knew it was big but a child who is 93rd percentile in math is not at all the same as a child who is 60th percentile in math. I support a lot of what MCPS is trying to do with equity but a child who is 60th percentile in math does not need to be in a math magnet.

I completely agree. 60th isn’t even ballpark.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They need to bring back the Cogat which is not based on achievement but on potential.

Yes, it was so easy to prep kids for this and made it much easier to game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That is a massive difference. I knew it was big but a child who is 93rd percentile in math is not at all the same as a child who is 60th percentile in math. I support a lot of what MCPS is trying to do with equity but a child who is 60th percentile in math does not need to be in a math magnet.

I completely agree. 60th isn’t even ballpark.

It depends. With programs like CES, similar SES schools are typically grouped to the same centers.

You'd think they can see where this was successful and not and refine the percentiles accordingly.

For example, I have a kid at TPMS magnet. I do not have access to the data, but it seems like each year, they've refined the process to improve the selection. The first year there was a fairly high attrition rate because the process was frankly kind of bad especially from the high FARMS schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That is a massive difference. I knew it was big but a child who is 93rd percentile in math is not at all the same as a child who is 60th percentile in math. I support a lot of what MCPS is trying to do with equity but a child who is 60th percentile in math does not need to be in a math magnet.

I completely agree. 60th isn’t even ballpark.

+1
It just waters down the magnet and stresses out kids who are in no way prepared for them level of rigor. I mean these are kids who wouldn’t get into AIM at their home school but are expected to do even higher level math at the magnet? That is not serving anyone.