Private Trainings with Club Coach?

[Anonymous]

Isn't it a conflict of interest to have players do private trainings with their current coach outside of the club structure for additional payment? There is a coach for a Maryland club who does individual trainings with his current players for a fee. Those players then get more playing time than those who do not do private trainings. How is this allowed?

[Anonymous]

I know what coach this is and he did the same with our team, he's not very ethical and surprise surprise the kids who were paying for the extra trainings played more and most of them were not very good.

Make sure to stay and keep an eye on them during the private trainings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn't it a conflict of interest to have players do private trainings with their current coach outside of the club structure for additional payment? There is a coach for a Maryland club who does individual trainings with his current players for a fee. Those players then get more playing time than those who do not do private trainings. How is this allowed?

Devil's Advocate:
1 What interests specifically are being conflicted?
2 If you didn't know about the private training, would those players be playing more time because they're better?
3 Is it written in your club bylaws and agreement that this is not allowed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't it a conflict of interest to have players do private trainings with their current coach outside of the club structure for additional payment? There is a coach for a Maryland club who does individual trainings with his current players for a fee. Those players then get more playing time than those who do not do private trainings. How is this allowed?

Devil's Advocate:
1 What interests specifically are being conflicted?
2 If you didn't know about the private training, would those players be playing more time because they're better?
3 Is it written in your club bylaws and agreement that this is not allowed?

It reeks to high heaven and in any other industry it would be banned or at the very least frowned upon. It is accepted as common because this US Youth Soccer landscape currently where parents are hive-minded, suffer from severe FOMO, are ignorant, and have deep pockets thus huckster coaches and clubs capitalize.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't it a conflict of interest to have players do private trainings with their current coach outside of the club structure for additional payment? There is a coach for a Maryland club who does individual trainings with his current players for a fee. Those players then get more playing time than those who do not do private trainings. How is this allowed?

Devil's Advocate:
1 What interests specifically are being conflicted?
2 If you didn't know about the private training, would those players be playing more time because they're better?
3 Is it written in your club bylaws and agreement that this is not allowed?

It reeks to high heaven and in any other industry it would be banned or at the very least frowned upon. It is accepted as common because this US Youth Soccer landscape currently where parents are hive-minded, suffer from severe FOMO, are ignorant, and have deep pockets thus huckster coaches and clubs capitalize.

Your Honor, the witness has failed to answer the questions. I move to have the charges dropped and case dismissed.
Let the poor coach earn a living.

[Anonymous]

Loudoun couch did this as well. Preferential treatment for the player he coached.

[Anonymous]

I think several area clubs prohibit this. For example, Mclean coaches may not privately coach ANY MYS player (regardless of year or team) in exchange for a fee or any other form of gift or compensation. Also MYS coaches may not provide private coaching to any player who is attempting or planning to join MYS. This is in their policies which are posted online. I think Arlington too?

[Anonymous]

Devil's Advocate:
1 What interests specifically are being conflicted?
Not a lawyer, but pretty sure this is a breeding ground for quid pro quo. Even if there wasn't preferential treatment, it opens up the perception that there could be based upon personal financial gain. As PP said, no other industry would allow this.
2 If you didn't know about the private training, would those players be playing more time because they're better?
If this is the coach in question that I think the OP is talking about, it is well known that better players ride the bench while those dolling out the cash get time on the field.
3 Is it written in your club bylaws and agreement that this is not allowed?
That's a question for the club and likely only at the purview of the coach and employer, as it would be in his / her contract and not something that is a contractual issue with the parent or player. It's not illegal to date your daughter's of age best friend either, but some of us don't need to have the rules spelled out for us.

[Anonymous]

My DD club coach often invites 2-5 girls 1-2 times a month to participate in an extra Sunday training. There is no cost, he usually invites kids with the most talent that put the most effort in...he has never once asked for payment

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think several area clubs prohibit this. For example, Mclean coaches may not privately coach ANY MYS player (regardless of year or team) in exchange for a fee or any other form of gift or compensation. Also MYS coaches may not provide private coaching to any player who is attempting or planning to join MYS. This is in their policies which are posted online. I think Arlington too?

So does MV Soccer fall in line with those policies? Those are MYS coaches. Quan does a similar thing with HP Elite, granted he’s not super hands on and more just oversees things, aka looking for players to poach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't it a conflict of interest to have players do private trainings with their current coach outside of the club structure for additional payment? There is a coach for a Maryland club who does individual trainings with his current players for a fee. Those players then get more playing time than those who do not do private trainings. How is this allowed?

Devil's Advocate:
1 What interests specifically are being conflicted?
2 If you didn't know about the private training, would those players be playing more time because they're better?
3 Is it written in your club bylaws and agreement that this is not allowed?

It reeks to high heaven and in any other industry it would be banned or at the very least frowned upon. It is accepted as common because this US Youth Soccer landscape currently where parents are hive-minded, suffer from severe FOMO, are ignorant, and have deep pockets thus huckster coaches and clubs capitalize.

Your Honor, the witness has failed to answer the questions. I move to have the charges dropped and case dismissed.
Let the poor coach earn a living.

Yes, let us all shed a tear for the poor coach that does not GAF about your kid and views you as a sucker and a mark. Carry on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Loudoun couch did this as well. Preferential treatment for the player he coached.

Huge problem at VSA as well

[Anonymous]

This is done alot at our club. It's in the rules but they aren't enforced

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't it a conflict of interest to have players do private trainings with their current coach outside of the club structure for additional payment? There is a coach for a Maryland club who does individual trainings with his current players for a fee. Those players then get more playing time than those who do not do private trainings. How is this allowed?

Devil's Advocate:
1 What interests specifically are being conflicted?
2 If you didn't know about the private training, would those players be playing more time because they're better?
3 Is it written in your club bylaws and agreement that this is not allowed?

It reeks to high heaven and in any other industry it would be banned or at the very least frowned upon. It is accepted as common because this US Youth Soccer landscape currently where parents are hive-minded, suffer from severe FOMO, are ignorant, and have deep pockets thus huckster coaches and clubs capitalize.

Your Honor, the witness has failed to answer the questions. I move to have the charges dropped and case dismissed.
Let the poor coach earn a living.

Yes, let us all shed a tear for the poor coach that does not GAF about your kid and views you as a sucker and a mark. Carry on.

Well that took an aggressively angry turn quickly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't it a conflict of interest to have players do private trainings with their current coach outside of the club structure for additional payment? There is a coach for a Maryland club who does individual trainings with his current players for a fee. Those players then get more playing time than those who do not do private trainings. How is this allowed?

Devil's Advocate:
1 What interests specifically are being conflicted?
2 If you didn't know about the private training, would those players be playing more time because they're better?
3 Is it written in your club bylaws and agreement that this is not allowed?

It reeks to high heaven and in any other industry it would be banned or at the very least frowned upon. It is accepted as common because this US Youth Soccer landscape currently where parents are hive-minded, suffer from severe FOMO, are ignorant, and have deep pockets thus huckster coaches and clubs capitalize.

Your Honor, the witness has failed to answer the questions. I move to have the charges dropped and case dismissed.
Let the poor coach earn a living.

Yes, let us all shed a tear for the poor coach that does not GAF about your kid and views you as a sucker and a mark. Carry on.

Well that took an aggressively angry turn quickly.

Whatever you say champ. Tone over substance. You do you.