2023 SAT scores

[Anonymous]

FCPS posted a message about the 2023 SAT scores on their website, but they did not include the breakdown of scores per high school as they have done so every year in the past. Are the scores per high school available elsewhere?

https://www.fcps.edu/news/fairfax-county-students-continue-outperform-sat-state-and-global-averages

[Anonymous]

They used to provide a breakdown of SAT scores by ethnic group for each school on the individual school profiles. Then they stopped doing that but put out a press release with the average scores at every high school. Now they aren't even doing that. They don't want you to focus on the disparities among schools. But you can submit a FOIA request if you're interested.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They used to provide a breakdown of SAT scores by ethnic group for each school on the individual school profiles. Then they stopped doing that but put out a press release with the average scores at every high school. Now they aren't even doing that. They don't want you to focus on the disparities among schools. But you can submit a FOIA request if you're interested.

Or maybe they are focusing on handling the teacher shortage and need to lighten the tasks they do. SAT scores are not as important as they once were and fewer students are opting to take them. It's harder to make sense of the testing data given that. But sure clog them up with more FOIAs and create admin workload that then justifies the need for admin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They used to provide a breakdown of SAT scores by ethnic group for each school on the individual school profiles. Then they stopped doing that but put out a press release with the average scores at every high school. Now they aren't even doing that. They don't want you to focus on the disparities among schools. But you can submit a FOIA request if you're interested.

Here’s their FIOA email.
[e-mail]

Ask for the raw data and publish it online so we can all dig into it to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They used to provide a breakdown of SAT scores by ethnic group for each school on the individual school profiles. Then they stopped doing that but put out a press release with the average scores at every high school. Now they aren't even doing that. They don't want you to focus on the disparities among schools. But you can submit a FOIA request if you're interested.

Or maybe they are focusing on handling the teacher shortage and need to lighten the tasks they do. SAT scores are not as important as they once were and fewer students are opting to take them. It's harder to make sense of the testing data given that. But sure clog them up with more FOIAs and create admin workload that then justifies the need for admin.

They get a standardized report from the College Board every year that has the school-specific SAT averages as well as disaggregated data. It requires very little effort to prepare a table with a heading, a row for each school, and columns for the math, verbal, and total scores. Assuming someone submits a FOIA request for the information, it also requires little effort to attach either the report from the College Board or the summary that FCPS staff undoubtedly has already prepared for internal purposes to an email.

You may or may not be right as to whether SAT scores are declining in importance (it depends on the college or university, and some schools that had gone test-optional may have changed their minds), but that's not the reason why FCPS isn't publishing the school-specific averages.

[Anonymous]

You are all soncompetitive and pathetic. They will eventually break it down by school you can handle the wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are all soncompetitive and pathetic. They will eventually break it down by school you can handle the wait.

Oh, they already have it broken down. Just because they don't want parents to know about the gap between Langley and Mount Vernon doesn't mean staff and School Board members don't want to know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They used to provide a breakdown of SAT scores by ethnic group for each school on the individual school profiles. Then they stopped doing that but put out a press release with the average scores at every high school. Now they aren't even doing that. They don't want you to focus on the disparities among schools. But you can submit a FOIA request if you're interested.

Or maybe they are focusing on handling the teacher shortage and need to lighten the tasks they do. SAT scores are not as important as they once were and fewer students are opting to take them. It's harder to make sense of the testing data given that. But sure clog them up with more FOIAs and create admin workload that then justifies the need for admin.

They get a standardized report from the College Board every year that has the school-specific SAT averages as well as disaggregated data. It requires very little effort to prepare a table with a heading, a row for each school, and columns for the math, verbal, and total scores. Assuming someone submits a FOIA request for the information, it also requires little effort to attach either the report from the College Board or the summary that FCPS staff undoubtedly has already prepared for internal purposes to an email.

You may or may not be right as to whether SAT scores are declining in importance (it depends on the college or university, and some schools that had gone test-optional may have changed their minds), but that's not the reason why FCPS isn't publishing the school-specific averages.

The time isn't just to make the chart--but also to provide the contextualized information that helps people compare the chart year to year since there are changes in percentages taking the test and these percentages may vary by group/school.
As for your other point,
Over 80% of schools are now test optional or test blind, and the number has been growing not shrinking.
Far fewer percentages of students are submitting test scores this year than last year. Just for some of the most popular VA publics alone, nearly all schools have lower percentage of people who are submitting test scores--with JMU now being well below 1/4 submitting.
(SAT and ACT combined)
JMU: 22.5%
UMW: 36%
VCU: 38%
GMU: 38%
CNU: 43%
VT: 54%
WM:62%
UVA: 65.5%

The prior year, for instance, both UVA and W&M were above 75% submitting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They used to provide a breakdown of SAT scores by ethnic group for each school on the individual school profiles. Then they stopped doing that but put out a press release with the average scores at every high school. Now they aren't even doing that. They don't want you to focus on the disparities among schools. But you can submit a FOIA request if you're interested.

Or maybe they are focusing on handling the teacher shortage and need to lighten the tasks they do. SAT scores are not as important as they once were and fewer students are opting to take them. It's harder to make sense of the testing data given that. But sure clog them up with more FOIAs and create admin workload that then justifies the need for admin.

They get a standardized report from the College Board every year that has the school-specific SAT averages as well as disaggregated data. It requires very little effort to prepare a table with a heading, a row for each school, and columns for the math, verbal, and total scores. Assuming someone submits a FOIA request for the information, it also requires little effort to attach either the report from the College Board or the summary that FCPS staff undoubtedly has already prepared for internal purposes to an email.

You may or may not be right as to whether SAT scores are declining in importance (it depends on the college or university, and some schools that had gone test-optional may have changed their minds), but that's not the reason why FCPS isn't publishing the school-specific averages.

The time isn't just to make the chart--but also to provide the contextualized information that helps people compare the chart year to year since there are changes in percentages taking the test and these percentages may vary by group/school.
As for your other point,
Over 80% of schools are now test optional or test blind, and the number has been growing not shrinking.
Far fewer percentages of students are submitting test scores this year than last year. Just for some of the most popular VA publics alone, nearly all schools have lower percentage of people who are submitting test scores--with JMU now being well below 1/4 submitting.
(SAT and ACT combined)
JMU: 22.5%
UMW: 36%
VCU: 38%
GMU: 38%
CNU: 43%
VT: 54%
WM:62%
UVA: 65.5%

The prior year, for instance, both UVA and W&M were above 75% submitting.

Oooh, it's just so hard to put together a simple table. LOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They used to provide a breakdown of SAT scores by ethnic group for each school on the individual school profiles. Then they stopped doing that but put out a press release with the average scores at every high school. Now they aren't even doing that. They don't want you to focus on the disparities among schools. But you can submit a FOIA request if you're interested.

Or maybe they are focusing on handling the teacher shortage and need to lighten the tasks they do. SAT scores are not as important as they once were and fewer students are opting to take them. It's harder to make sense of the testing data given that. But sure clog them up with more FOIAs and create admin workload that then justifies the need for admin.

They get a standardized report from the College Board every year that has the school-specific SAT averages as well as disaggregated data. It requires very little effort to prepare a table with a heading, a row for each school, and columns for the math, verbal, and total scores. Assuming someone submits a FOIA request for the information, it also requires little effort to attach either the report from the College Board or the summary that FCPS staff undoubtedly has already prepared for internal purposes to an email.

You may or may not be right as to whether SAT scores are declining in importance (it depends on the college or university, and some schools that had gone test-optional may have changed their minds), but that's not the reason why FCPS isn't publishing the school-specific averages.

The time isn't just to make the chart--but also to provide the contextualized information that helps people compare the chart year to year since there are changes in percentages taking the test and these percentages may vary by group/school.
As for your other point,
Over 80% of schools are now test optional or test blind, and the number has been growing not shrinking.
Far fewer percentages of students are submitting test scores this year than last year. Just for some of the most popular VA publics alone, nearly all schools have lower percentage of people who are submitting test scores--with JMU now being well below 1/4 submitting.
(SAT and ACT combined)
JMU: 22.5%
UMW: 36%
VCU: 38%
GMU: 38%
CNU: 43%
VT: 54%
WM:62%
UVA: 65.5%

The prior year, for instance, both UVA and W&M were above 75% submitting.

Bye-bye SATs. Good riddance.

[Anonymous]

New format? There is something FCPS does not want you to see.
~Former FCPS

[Anonymous]

The ONLY reason they'd come up with a new format is to try and explain away declining test scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They used to provide a breakdown of SAT scores by ethnic group for each school on the individual school profiles. Then they stopped doing that but put out a press release with the average scores at every high school. Now they aren't even doing that. They don't want you to focus on the disparities among schools. But you can submit a FOIA request if you're interested.

Or maybe they are focusing on handling the teacher shortage and need to lighten the tasks they do. SAT scores are not as important as they once were and fewer students are opting to take them. It's harder to make sense of the testing data given that. But sure clog them up with more FOIAs and create admin workload that then justifies the need for admin.

They get a standardized report from the College Board every year that has the school-specific SAT averages as well as disaggregated data. It requires very little effort to prepare a table with a heading, a row for each school, and columns for the math, verbal, and total scores. Assuming someone submits a FOIA request for the information, it also requires little effort to attach either the report from the College Board or the summary that FCPS staff undoubtedly has already prepared for internal purposes to an email.

You may or may not be right as to whether SAT scores are declining in importance (it depends on the college or university, and some schools that had gone test-optional may have changed their minds), but that's not the reason why FCPS isn't publishing the school-specific averages.

The time isn't just to make the chart--but also to provide the contextualized information that helps people compare the chart year to year since there are changes in percentages taking the test and these percentages may vary by group/school.
As for your other point,
Over 80% of schools are now test optional or test blind, and the number has been growing not shrinking.
Far fewer percentages of students are submitting test scores this year than last year. Just for some of the most popular VA publics alone, nearly all schools have lower percentage of people who are submitting test scores--with JMU now being well below 1/4 submitting.
(SAT and ACT combined)
JMU: 22.5%
UMW: 36%
VCU: 38%
GMU: 38%
CNU: 43%
VT: 54%
WM:62%
UVA: 65.5%

The prior year, for instance, both UVA and W&M were above 75% submitting.

Oooh, it's just so hard to put together a simple table. LOL.

Why do you care anyway? SAT scores are declining in importance.

[Anonymous]

pretty excited to see the SAT scores

[Anonymous]

Yes, we don’t have good news so let’s hide the data and hope no one notices. Got to love FCPS’s commitment to transparency.