MAP-R score dipped

[Anonymous]

My 4th graders MAP R score dipped quite a bit from end of 3rd grade to now (4th grade fall). In fact he scored lower than what he scored in the fall of 3rd grade. He has been reading all summer. Anyone know what this means? A bad day? Or something else?

[Anonymous]

It's just summer slump nbd
As the school year goes on, the score will go up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's just summer slump nbd
As the school year goes on, the score will go up

But its quite a big drop like 8 points. He is getting ELC based on his 3rd grade Spring MAP score but now I am worried that they will take that away and think he can’t do ELC.

[Anonymous]

It could be a bad day, or it could mean they need to work on their analysis skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's just summer slump nbd
As the school year goes on, the score will go up

But its quite a big drop like 8 points. He is getting ELC based on his 3rd grade Spring MAP score but now I am worried that they will take that away and think he can’t do ELC.

I don’t think they would pull him out for a dip like this, especially if he’s doing fine on everything else. It would be concerning though and you might want to ask his teacher for details.

[Anonymous]

Kids have bad days sometimes. Wait to see if it's a trend. I think you could strongly push back if they want to take away ELC (which I doubt they will).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's just summer slump nbd
As the school year goes on, the score will go up

But its quite a big drop like 8 points. He is getting ELC based on his 3rd grade Spring MAP score but now I am worried that they will take that away and think he can’t do ELC.

8 points out of 200-something. It's a less than 5% change. It's barely statistically significant.

You will hurt your kid--and yourself--obsessing like this. Stop.

[Anonymous]

OP here- thanks for your responses. Has this not happened to anyone’s kid before? Just mine?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's just summer slump nbd
As the school year goes on, the score will go up

But its quite a big drop like 8 points. He is getting ELC based on his 3rd grade Spring MAP score but now I am worried that they will take that away and think he can’t do ELC.

That's not how statistics works. The scale doesn't start at 0.
8 points out of 200-something. It's a less than 5% change. It's barely statistically significant.

You will hurt your kid--and yourself--obsessing like this. Stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here- thanks for your responses. Has this not happened to anyone’s kid before? Just mine?

It happens to everyone all the time. The reports only compare year over year, not season to season.

[Anonymous]

It goes up and down. But I don't know - 8 points. Might have to repeat 3rd grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It goes up and down. But I don't know - 8 points. Might have to repeat 3rd grade.

Maybe that is the way to go

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here- thanks for your responses. Has this not happened to anyone’s kid before? Just mine?

It happened to mine twice.

In the fall of 1st grade, the MAP-P (math assessment) raw score dropped to the same score as the fall of K. My kid just had an awful day - probably got an early question wrong and that put her on track for a low score. Percentile went from 99th in spring of K to 52nd in fall of 1st. Went back up to high 90s percentile by winter of 1st.

But the bigger issue for us was in upper elementary. Kid scored very high in spring of 3rd grade year, and then dropped quite a bit in fall of 4th -- then went up after that, but still before the high score in spring of 3rd grade. I think she maybe just had a really good test in Spring of 3rd grade. In 5th grade, the score recovered, and eventually was higher than that high 3rd grade score.

None of it affected the instruction received. Teachers knew she was bright and could handle accelerated curriculum. But it was certainly something we kept an eye on.

Good luck, OP!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here- thanks for your responses. Has this not happened to anyone’s kid before? Just mine?

It happened to mine twice.

In the fall of 1st grade, the MAP-P (math assessment) raw score dropped to the same score as the fall of K. My kid just had an awful day - probably got an early question wrong and that put her on track for a low score. Percentile went from 99th in spring of K to 52nd in fall of 1st. Went back up to high 90s percentile by winter of 1st.

But the bigger issue for us was in upper elementary. Kid scored very high in spring of 3rd grade year, and then dropped quite a bit in fall of 4th -- then went up after that, but still before the high score in spring of 3rd grade. I think she maybe just had a really good test in Spring of 3rd grade. In 5th grade, the score recovered, and eventually was higher than that high 3rd grade score.

None of it affected the instruction received. Teachers knew she was bright and could handle accelerated curriculum. But it was certainly something we kept an eye on.

Good luck, OP!

Meant to specify that the upper elementary dips were in MAP-R.

[Anonymous]

Happens to both my kids from time to time. Don’t worry about it. They also are not going to take away ELC.