Gaza War, Part 3

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03/29/2024 16:36

Subject: Re:Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Video of 2 month old Laila Junaid in Gaza. She weighs about 4.5 lbs and is starving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qImWH3DDF-c

So sad. This deliberate starvation is a war crime, and Israel needs to be held accountable. There is further information at https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/27/starvation-anatomy-of-a-very-cruel-slow-death.

Hamas could end this today. Why won't they? Why are these fat Hamas leaders hiding out in other countries, refusing to negotiate in good faith, while their people starve?

Is it possibly because things are better for them if their people suffer?

+100. The starvation and suffering of the Gazan people is a willful, deliberate and calculated choice made by Hamas. They indeed COULD end it.

I think we all agree that Hamas is bad.

Hamas is not surrendering.

That does not give Israel the right to starve the people of Gaza. This is on Israel.

From the ICJ ruling yesterday:

In conformity with its obligations under the Genocide Convention, and in view of the worsening conditions of life faced by Palestinians in Gaza, in particular the spread of famine and starvation, Israel shall: (a) take all necessary and effective measures to ensure, without delay, in full co-operation with the United Nations, the unhindered provision at scale by all concerned of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance, including food, water, electricity, fuel, shelter, clothing, hygiene and sanitation requirements, as well as medical supplies and medical care to Palestinians throughout Gaza, including by increasing the capacity and number of land crossing points and maintaining them open for as long as necessary;

https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240328-ord-01-00-en.pdf

The ICJ also said Hamas needed to unconditionally release all Israeli prisoners. That was in the LAST one, yet Hamas has failed to do so.

How is it that only one side is expected to comply while the other can continue to do whatever they like? That's not fair.

Israel is NOT cooperating with ceasefire agreements. For example, why isn't it releasing the thousands of people it is holding without charges, which is essentially no different from what Hamas did when it took prisoners on 10/7? The only difference is that Hamas is holding about 134 prisoners, while Israel is holding about 3,500. If you see Palestinians and Israelis as equal, you must see this. If you don't, you must be racist.

We all know why Hamas's prisoners are seen as more important than Israel's prisoners. It's racism. As referenced on the previous page, an Israeli appeals court reduced the sentences for IDF members who murdered or were parties to the murder of a young Arab girl on the grounds that: "At the time, there was a general feeling of contempt for the life of Arabs ... and sometimes wanton events occurred in this sphere. All this helped create an atmosphere of 'anything goes'. We are convinced that this atmosphere existed at the Nirim outpost, too."

So it's quite clear why Hamas is expected to make more concessions than Israel: Racism! An Israeli court ruled that "a general feeling of contempt for the life of Arabs" allows Israelis to treat them as partially expendable. The court outright said that killing a young Arab girl, thought to be in her mid-teens, literally wasn't too bad. To this day, Israelis expect Palestinians to kowtow and accept treatment that labels them as inferiors.

Israel isn't the only one defying ceasefires. Ceasefires cannot be unilateral. CAN NOT.

BOTH sides need to stop firing for there to be a legitimate ceasefire. And not only IDF and Hamas but also the various Palestinian Jihad and other militants in Gaza, AS WELL AS Hezbollah who has kept it unsafe for people to return to their homes in northern Israel, and what about the Houthis, who continue to threaten commercial shipping in the name of Hamas?

CAN NOT.

My post was written in response to a PP's claim that Hamas could unilaterally induce a ceasefire by surrendering and releasing the prisoners. As you say, ceasefires are not unilateral, but the PP's position was that it was incumbent on Hamas to give in, while Israel had no corresponding obligations (such as releasing the prisoners it holds without charge). This reflects Israel's absolutely MASSIVE sense of entitlement to ignore the rights of Palestinians and to give the middle finger to the UN.

The UNSC has demanded a ceasefire. As the invaders, Israel should cease hostilities right now to allow humanitarian aid to reach the starving population. Under international law, people are allowed to defend themselves from an occupying power, so the onus is on Israel, not Hamas, to take the first step. The reason Israel thinks it's just fine and dandy to starve young children to death is indicated by an Israeli appeals court's response to the brutal murder of a Palestinian explained above.

Once again, the court stated, "At the time, there was a general feeling of contempt for the life of Arabs ... and sometimes wanton events occurred in this sphere. All this helped create an atmosphere of 'anything goes'." This was considered a mitigating factor for murder, which is absolutely horrifying. Only in truly genocidal situations is murder partially excused by the claim that the defendant had "a general feeling of contempt for the life of" the victim's ethnic group.