SecDef shares US war Plan in Group chat

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This is a s### show - we knew this disaster was coming. Thank you, Michigan and Pennsylvania - not

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone asking how or why?

I'm with you, " how and why " should be the focus plus an immediate enforcement of SCIF only discussions moving forward.

In my book Goldberg doesn't look too good in this either. In my profession if I receive confidential information that I have no reason to receive, my professional training would be to immediately call it to the attention of the sender and delete the information . In this case, Goldberg should have immediately notified the DNI head so that his phone could be secured by them and analyzed for malware and the mission itself should have been put on hold until all phones involved were collected and studied for malware.

But Goldberg, who incidentally had at one time become a citizen of a foreign country and served in the military in a foreign county, did NOT take this immediate step to secure the US mission by alerting the DNI and POTUS- as was his duty as an American. Perhaps he doesn't truly consider himself one ?

Second question: as many of us know, just like IG and FB " share my contact list" is a means to access the phone numbers and contacts of all of Goldberg's contacts, so , in keeping himself lurking on the chat for 2 days- someone else may have been able to view the battle plans. Perhaps THIS was the Intent all along by the original hacker??

Bottom line- of course, no more Signal, Whats App chats ( both are in AWS servers, btw ) so nothing is secret there to the NSA. NSC needs to accept fact that all Presidential records are discoverable and stop trying work arounds that actually put our troops more at risk.

AND, as we all learned in KDG- if you find something that isn't yours, you immediately return it to the rightful owner. Jeff Goldberg effectively held onto someone's wallet for 2 days, counted it's cash value and deliberated what that could for him and then finally chose how to exploit it. THAT is ultimately, Un-American , IMHO.

Did you read the Atlantic article? He explained that he initially stayed on the chat because he thought it was either someone spoofing Waltz and trying to trick him so he was curious where it would go (he's a journalist, it's a possibility) or maybe Waltz added him on purpose to give him some information. He wasn't sure it was legit until it was serious.

I am a lawyer and if I receive a misdirected email, I would delete it. I would hope that another lawyer would do the same but I know that not all would. And I know that a journalist might not.

A journalist is SUPPOSED to report on matters of public concern. Does no one realize this???

MAGA doesn’t because they’ve been fed bread and circuses, and they follow instructions for more: journalists bad except for a few approved, truth is what we tell you, thinking is overrated.

People don't seem to understand. Leavitt and the rest aren't talking to America. They can't. They are beyond the pale, evil, incompetent, liars. They are talking to their idiotic cult followers. They can't ever break kayfabe because they are a complete sham. There is no way to twist and spin the facts to make them look remotely tolerable. All they can do is tell more and more extreme lies, and scream nonsense.
They are a clear and present danger to America and the world. We saw this with Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Kim, and Putin. It's the same playbook.

The question is, how will you react? By trying to reason with people who don't use reason? They are the bad-faith based community, a pack of criminals and worse.

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Anonymous wrote:This guy can't even spell "principals" correctly at the start of the thread.



The entire administration is a pack of airheads.

Yup: “Tiger Team”

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Anonymous wrote:Tulsi was disgraceful in those hearings today.

I loved it when she said she couldn't remember a convo about killing a lot of people a few weeks ago. She just "didn't recall."

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone asking how or why?

I'm with you, " how and why " should be the focus plus an immediate enforcement of SCIF only discussions moving forward.

In my book Goldberg doesn't look too good in this either. In my profession if I receive confidential information that I have no reason to receive, my professional training would be to immediately call it to the attention of the sender and delete the information . In this case, Goldberg should have immediately notified the DNI head so that his phone could be secured by them and analyzed for malware and the mission itself should have been put on hold until all phones involved were collected and studied for malware.

But Goldberg, who incidentally had at one time become a citizen of a foreign country and served in the military in a foreign county, did NOT take this immediate step to secure the US mission by alerting the DNI and POTUS- as was his duty as an American. Perhaps he doesn't truly consider himself one ?

Second question: as many of us know, just like IG and FB " share my contact list" is a means to access the phone numbers and contacts of all of Goldberg's contacts, so , in keeping himself lurking on the chat for 2 days- someone else may have been able to view the battle plans. Perhaps THIS was the Intent all along by the original hacker??

Bottom line- of course, no more Signal, Whats App chats ( both are in AWS servers, btw ) so nothing is secret there to the NSA. NSC needs to accept fact that all Presidential records are discoverable and stop trying work arounds that actually put our troops more at risk.

AND, as we all learned in KDG- if you find something that isn't yours, you immediately return it to the rightful owner. Jeff Goldberg effectively held onto someone's wallet for 2 days, counted it's cash value and deliberated what that could for him and then finally chose how to exploit it. THAT is ultimately, Un-American , IMHO.

Are you seriously going to lay blame on a JOURNALIST for doing their job! Every day I am more and more dumbfounded by the sheer number of people who defend, justify, make excuses for Trump and the unbelievably unqualified people he has put in place.

I’ve accidentally received one or two misdirected confidential emails in my “profession” as well. I immediately sent a reply saying “ not meant for me.” But if it was a crime, illegal, harmful…I would have gone to my boss with the knowledge. The journalist was reporting on illegal activity and incompetence s administration. That’s what a free press should do!

But what really gets me is that there is so much lying and gaslighting about everything as they intend to mislead us about everything thing they do….so when an actual mistake is made why not own it. He simply cannot. Any other profession, relationship, family member it is absolutely critical to acknowledge your mistake to learn from it, build trust etc. Yet somehow a grown man of almost 80 can’t ever admit he is wrong or has made a mistake. EVERYONE ELSE BUT HIM is a liar, sleaze bag, not talented. Truly unbelievable that people still defend him.

+1000

Plus--he was more than 50% certain it was a hoax because the reality made zero sense. Plus, it was oy the actual bombing that convinced him it was real. Plus he and sha e harris DID go to National Intelligence who did not prohibit pu location or take his phone. As Benjamin Wittes said, you can't be more Catholic than the Pope.

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Hmm so why were these people really fired?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone asking how or why?

I'm with you, " how and why " should be the focus plus an immediate enforcement of SCIF only discussions moving forward.

In my book Goldberg doesn't look too good in this either. In my profession if I receive confidential information that I have no reason to receive, my professional training would be to immediately call it to the attention of the sender and delete the information . In this case, Goldberg should have immediately notified the DNI head so that his phone could be secured by them and analyzed for malware and the mission itself should have been put on hold until all phones involved were collected and studied for malware.

But Goldberg, who incidentally had at one time become a citizen of a foreign country and served in the military in a foreign county, did NOT take this immediate step to secure the US mission by alerting the DNI and POTUS- as was his duty as an American. Perhaps he doesn't truly consider himself one ?

Second question: as many of us know, just like IG and FB " share my contact list" is a means to access the phone numbers and contacts of all of Goldberg's contacts, so , in keeping himself lurking on the chat for 2 days- someone else may have been able to view the battle plans. Perhaps THIS was the Intent all along by the original hacker??

Bottom line- of course, no more Signal, Whats App chats ( both are in AWS servers, btw ) so nothing is secret there to the NSA. NSC needs to accept fact that all Presidential records are discoverable and stop trying work arounds that actually put our troops more at risk.

AND, as we all learned in KDG- if you find something that isn't yours, you immediately return it to the rightful owner. Jeff Goldberg effectively held onto someone's wallet for 2 days, counted its cash value and deliberated what that could for him and then finally chose how to exploit it. THAT is ultimately, Un-American , IMHO.

The information was not marked classified, so *technically* he had no obligation to report it. Of course, if he had reported it to DNI, she would have brushed it under the rug — and he knew that. He DOES have an obligation to report improprieties of this administration to the public — which he did.

Stop trying to place the blame on him. This administration is atrocious.

Well, he DID report it. They said it looked real, they said he wasn't prohibited from publishing and only that they preferred he did not. You cant exactly "return" information, but he did report it gad veen guven to him. Besides which, until there were actual bombs--which meant the bombing plans could no longer be secrets--he did not know the conviction was real.

I'm also perplexed about Waltz' s venmo friends list. Do those piggyback on other apps or something? Why would you be sending or receiving money to/from lobbyists? If not, why would you have them listed as friends? Is he someone who just accepts friend suggestions from every apparent source?

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Anonymous wrote:Hmm so why were these people really fired?

It's rumored they were really fired because they were lgbt or the wrong race.

Apparently it's not because of chat apps because those are apparently ok to use even while in Russia.

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Anonymous wrote:Hmm so why were these people really fired?

These people were fired for using a classified government platform to discuss inappropriate topics - as opposed to Hegseth and Waltz, who used an inappropriate platform to discuss classified government topics.

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Anonymous wrote:According to orange idiot, it’s the apps fault.

Here he goes deflecting again, blaming others. May he’s the idiot that selected a cabinet of idiots.

Maybe it’s Biden’s fault. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

We are doomed. 3 years and 10 more months of idiocracy.

Ok, then fire all the people who were using an app that they were not allowed to use.

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Anonymous wrote:And then because we're playing with a full deck of losers, with get MJT with this:

https://news.sky.com/video/marjorie-taylor-greene-snaps-at-sky-correspondent-when-questioned-on-leaked-signal-chat-13336361

Seriously why are these people public officials in 2025?

OMG. Karma cannot come fast enough for this woman.

Appalling.

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Now the White House is claiming this is all a ‘hoax’.

Wow, are the American people really that stupid!

Of course the MAGA supporters will believe it. It’s fake news. Carry on.

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Anonymous wrote:Tulsi was disgraceful in those hearings today.

Tulsi is disgraceful every day.

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Anonymous wrote:Now the White House is claiming this is all a ‘hoax’.

Wow, are the American people really that stupid!

Of course the MAGA supporters will believe it. It’s fake news. Carry on.

And this is where everyday citizens should start to get involved. Use ALL the media platforms to SHOW that everything with this Administration is Hoaxes, Conspiracy Theories, Deep State or Going Great. They’re never wrong (or at least don’t admit it). Start the conspiracy theories on them. (Are the aliens? Who is really running departments since everyone is always on TV? What does the president do except sign EOs and Tweet in the middle of the night?

Start a Blog, Podcast, about “The President’s Cabal that seeks to create a dictatorship and servant class”

Come up with catchy slogan or hashtag and repeat them over and over and over.

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Anonymous wrote:Cute, but this is already illegal in at least three different ways so it doesn’t need a new bill to make it illegal?

It’s a gimmick to keep this in the news. It’s stupid. They should be calling for resignations and starting impeachment.

Come on Democrats, be the opposition party!