FBI Agent Says Giuliani Was Co-opted by Russian Intelligence

[Anonymous]

Giuliani development has drawn less attention: An FBI whistleblower filed a statement asserting that Giuliani “may have been compromised” by Russian intelligence while working as a lawyer and adviser to Trump during the 2020 campaign.

That contention is among a host of explosive assertions from Johnathan Buma, an FBI agent who also says that an investigation involving Giuliani’s activities was stymied within the bureau.

In July, Buma sent the Senate Judiciary Committee a 22-page statement full of eye-popping allegations, and the document leaked and was first reported last month by Insider (after a conservative blogger had posted it online). According to Buma’s account, Giuliani was used as an asset by a Ukrainian oligarch tied to Russian intelligence and other Russian operatives for a disinformation operation that aimed to discredit Joe Biden and boost Trump in the 2020 presidential race. Moreover, Buma says he was the target of retaliation within the bureau for digging into this.

The FBI declined to comment on Buma’s claims.

Buma’s revelations may only be the start. A source familiar with his work tells Mother Jones that other potential FBI whistleblowers who participated in the investigation involving Giuliani have consulted the same lawyer as Buma and might meet with congressional investigators in coming weeks. That attorney, Scott Horton, declined to comment

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/09/a-new-rudy-scandal-fbi-agent-says-giuliani-was-co-opted-by-russian-intelligence/

Wow! Let’s talk more about Hunter’s laptop!

[Anonymous]

Yes I don't think this is anything new.

But the reality is that it takes years of work to bring these people to justice. We are just getting to the 10 and 20 year sentences for January 6, and those are people directly responsible for breaching the Capitol building.

[Anonymous]

Which is probably why Giuliano cleared the decks of the Italian mob - so that the Russian mob had the place all to themselves.

[Anonymous]

Hmm....wonder why all the MAGAs on the 86-page-long Devon Archer thread aren't on this thread hanging on to every word of this whistleblower.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes I don't think this is anything new.

But the reality is that it takes years of work to bring these people to justice. We are just getting to the 10 and 20 year sentences for January 6, and those are people directly responsible for breaching the Capitol building.

It's not "new" in the sense that we already knew generally of it. What's new is that Buma is putting a number of specific names, dates, and other facts forward, many of which should be able to be corroborated via other agencies, along with an allegation that he personally was retaliated against from within the FBI for doing his work investigating this.

[Anonymous]

As Republicans keep trying to gin up a controversy over the Bidens, Burisma, and other matters, Buma’s statement reinforces the case that this supposed Biden-Ukraine scandal was egged on or orchestrated by Russian intelligence. And it contradicts the narrative pushed by Trump and his defenders that the FBI and Justice Department have been in cahoots with Democrats.

Giuliani’s role in Trump’s coup attempt and his string of public humiliations may overshadow the Ukrainian chapter in Giuliani’s downfall. But, according to Buma and various US intelligence findings, Giuliani apparently was a dupe—a useful idiot—for suspected Russian operatives and propagandists. And the bureau, Buma says, investigated this—until it didn’t.

Buma’s statement highlights Giuliani’s relationship with Pavel Fuks, a wealthy Ukrainian developer, who in 2017 hired Giuliani and paid him $300,000. Fuks once told the New York Times that he had retained Giuliani to lobby in the United States for the Ukrainian city of Kharkiv, where Fuks then lived. Giuliani has denied that he was paid to lobby for Kharkiv, insisting he only provided advice regarding security to the city. And Fuks has changed his tune. Through a spokesperson, he told Mother Jones that Giuliani’s work was limited to advising the city.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/09/a-new-rudy-scandal-fbi-agent-says-giuliani-was-co-opted-by-russian-intelligence/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hmm....wonder why all the MAGAs on the 86-page-long Devon Archer thread aren't on this thread hanging on to every word of this whistleblower.

Whistleblower with Biden dirt: AMERICAN PATRIOT AND HERO! STOP EVERYTHING ELSE AND SHOUT THIS FROM THE ROOFTOPS!!!!!1!!1!
Whistleblower with Trump dirt: *mumble mumble he's a liar mumble mumble dirtbag commie traitor*

[Anonymous]

This is a surprise.. to who?

[2:30 / 3:21]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hmm....wonder why all the MAGAs on the 86-page-long Devon Archer thread aren't on this thread hanging on to every word of this whistleblower.

Whistleblower with Biden dirt: AMERICAN PATRIOT AND HERO! STOP EVERYTHING ELSE AND SHOUT THIS FROM THE ROOFTOPS!!!!!1!!1!
Whistleblower with Trump dirt: *mumble mumble he's a liar mumble mumble dirtbag commie traitor*

Also them about whistleblowers with Trump dirt: “here’s a weirdly specific takedown of why that’s not accurate and I happen to be able to cite obscure chapters and verses about why, plus every single maga is going to have the exact same knowledge but we’re not organized and there’s no propaganda for us.”

[Anonymous]

Article: “MAY have been compromised”

DCUM thread title: "Giuliani WAS Co-opted by Russian Intelligence"

[Anonymous]

They said Trump was a Russian agent, so don't expect people to fall for this again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They said Trump was a Russian agent, so don't expect people to fall for this again.

Evgeny Popov: "We should take a closer look at this Mr. Ramaswamy. The last time, we've installed President Trump for Americans, but our bet didn't quite work out. Why not try again? Let's give it another try and see how Ramaswamy will perform in case Trump doesn't manage to win the position of the President. Just kidding."
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/8/29/2190157/-Putin-s-pals-rave-about-Vivek-but-Trump-remains-No-1-in-their-hearts

Starts at [2:40 / 3:03]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They said Trump was a Russian agent, so don't expect people to fall for this again.

No, we said “Russian asset.” That’s completely different, and quite honestly, he acted on Russia’s behalf on numerous occasions. He was an asset.

And Rudy was very probably co-opted by Russian intelligence. Republicans are very susceptible to flattery.

[Anonymous]

"my KGB instructors specifically made a point, never bother with Leftists. Forget about these political prostitutes. Aim higher. This was my instruction. Try to get into wide circulation, established conservative media. Reach the filthy rich movie makers, intellectuals, so-called academic circles, cynical, ego-centric people who can look into your eyes with an angelic expression and tell you a lie. These are the most recruit-able people. People who lack moral principles who are either too greedy or to suffer from self-importance, they feel that they matter a lot. These are the people who KGB wanted very much to recruit."
https://cosmolearning.org/documentaries/yuri-bezmenov-interview-soviet-subversion-of-the-free-world-press-1984/1/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They said Trump was a Russian agent, so don't expect people to fall for this again.

No, we said “Russian asset.” That’s completely different, and quite honestly, he acted on Russia’s behalf on numerous occasions. He was an asset.

And Rudy was very probably co-opted by Russian intelligence. Republicans are very susceptible to flattery.

F flattery.
Republicans are susceptible to greed. They care about money and power. Russia is paying them. That’s all they care about.