Is CogAT gone forever?

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[Post New]08/27/2023 20:00
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Anonymous
Magnet MS has been using the pool/lottery.

How do you think about magnet high school application process this year?
[Post New]08/27/2023 21:05
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Anonymous
My guess is likely YES the Cogat is gone forever.
[Post New]08/27/2023 21:06
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Anonymous
Yes, MCPS felt it was not equitable.
[Post New]08/27/2023 21:07
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Anonymous
No one knows yet. They’ll post this year’s process some time in the fall.
[Post New]08/27/2023 21:37
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Anonymous
I hope so
[Post New]08/27/2023 21:37
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes, MCPS felt it was not equitable.


Do you mean only certain groups of students performed well on it?
[Post New]08/27/2023 21:48
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Anonymous
It’s another test UMCs prep for which leaves URMs further behind. So hope it’s good riddance.
[Post New]08/27/2023 21:58
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Anonymous
The lottery brought in a lot of undeserving kids into the middle school magnet programs at the expense of kids who were at the 99th percentile in MAP. Kids who would have presumably also done very well in COGAT. The lottery has diluted the quality of the magnet under the guise of diversity. Bring COGAT or some other objective testing method back.
[Post New]08/27/2023 22:08
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, MCPS felt it was not equitable.


Do you mean only certain groups of students performed well on it?


Yes.
[Post New]08/27/2023 22:34
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The lottery brought in a lot of undeserving kids into the middle school magnet programs at the expense of kids who were at the 99th percentile in MAP. Kids who would have presumably also done very well in COGAT. The lottery has diluted the quality of the magnet under the guise of diversity. Bring COGAT or some other objective testing method back.


Someone needs to sue. Higher achievement students are entitled to programs that fit their needs. Period.
The why's behind some groups not achieving as highly need to be addressed before the magnet program selection, not instead of
[Post New]08/27/2023 23:37
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The lottery brought in a lot of undeserving kids into the middle school magnet programs at the expense of kids who were at the 99th percentile in MAP. Kids who would have presumably also done very well in COGAT. The lottery has diluted the quality of the magnet under the guise of diversity. Bring COGAT or some other objective testing method back.


Not necessarily. MAP tests content knowledge, not intelligence.
[Post New]08/27/2023 23:53
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Magnet MS has been using the pool/lottery.

How do you think about magnet high school application process this year?

Yes, the makers of the CogAT wouldn't allow the county to use it remotely during the deadly global pandemic, so they put it to rest for three years to see how things would work without it. I guess test-optional is all the rage now in educational circles since these tests are mostly for gatekeeping...
[Post New]08/27/2023 23:53
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The lottery brought in a lot of undeserving kids into the middle school magnet programs at the expense of kids who were at the 99th percentile in MAP. Kids who would have presumably also done very well in COGAT. The lottery has diluted the quality of the magnet under the guise of diversity. Bring COGAT or some other objective testing method back.


Not necessarily. MAP tests content knowledge, not intelligence.


Same with CogAT. Very easy to prep for like SATs.
[Post New]08/27/2023 23:54
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Anonymous
Just among my own kids with similar background and resources, everyone did differently on COGAT, PSAT and SAT. I'm not sure if its just a test of knowledge.
[Post New]08/27/2023 23:55
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The lottery brought in a lot of undeserving kids into the middle school magnet programs at the expense of kids who were at the 99th percentile in MAP. Kids who would have presumably also done very well in COGAT. The lottery has diluted the quality of the magnet under the guise of diversity. Bring COGAT or some other objective testing method back.


Not necessarily. MAP tests content knowledge, not intelligence.


Same with CogAT. Very easy to prep for like SATs.


Who in their right mind preps for COGAT? We didn't even know what it is.
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