Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Video of 2 month old Laila Junaid in Gaza. She weighs about 4.5 lbs and is starving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qImWH3DDF-c

So sad. This deliberate starvation is a war crime, and Israel needs to be held accountable. There is further information at https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/27/starvation-anatomy-of-a-very-cruel-slow-death.

Hamas could end this today. Why won't they? Why are these fat Hamas leaders hiding out in other countries, refusing to negotiate in good faith, while their people starve?

Is it possibly because things are better for them if their people suffer?

+100. The starvation and suffering of the Gazan people is a willful, deliberate and calculated choice made by Hamas. They indeed COULD end it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Video of 2 month old Laila Junaid in Gaza. She weighs about 4.5 lbs and is starving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qImWH3DDF-c

So sad. This deliberate starvation is a war crime, and Israel needs to be held accountable. There is further information at https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/27/starvation-anatomy-of-a-very-cruel-slow-death.

Hamas could end this today. Why won't they? Why are these fat Hamas leaders hiding out in other countries, refusing to negotiate in good faith, while their people starve?

Is it possibly because things are better for them if their people suffer?

+100. The starvation and suffering of the Gazan people is a willful, deliberate and calculated choice made despite Hamas. Israelis indeed COULD end it.

FTFY

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Video of 2 month old Laila Junaid in Gaza. She weighs about 4.5 lbs and is starving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qImWH3DDF-c

So sad. This deliberate starvation is a war crime, and Israel needs to be held accountable. There is further information at https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/27/starvation-anatomy-of-a-very-cruel-slow-death.

Hamas could end this today. Why won't they? Why are these fat Hamas leaders hiding out in other countries, refusing to negotiate in good faith, while their people starve?

Is it possibly because things are better for them if their people suffer?

+100. The starvation and suffering of the Gazan people is a willful, deliberate and calculated choice made by Hamas. They indeed COULD end it.

I think we all agree that Hamas is bad.

Hamas is not surrendering.

That does not give Israel the right to starve the people of Gaza. This is on Israel.

From the ICJ ruling yesterday:

In conformity with its obligations under the Genocide Convention, and in view of the worsening conditions of life faced by Palestinians in Gaza, in particular the spread of famine and starvation, Israel shall: (a) take all necessary and effective measures to ensure, without delay, in full co-operation with the United Nations, the unhindered provision at scale by all concerned of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance, including food, water, electricity, fuel, shelter, clothing, hygiene and sanitation requirements, as well as medical supplies and medical care to Palestinians throughout Gaza, including by increasing the capacity and number of land crossing points and maintaining them open for as long as necessary;

https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240328-ord-01-00-en.pdf

[Anonymous]

By the way, the ICJ ruling yesterday was unanimous.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68691095

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Video of 2 month old Laila Junaid in Gaza. She weighs about 4.5 lbs and is starving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qImWH3DDF-c

Tragic. But have you seen what an average Hamas militant looks like? Take a look at those videos that the IDF took of the Hamas militants they'd captured. Fat, roly-poly, out of shape, disgusting slobs. They all look like Jabba the hutt. You know very well who's taking the food in Gaza. Those poor children are being willfully starved by Hamas and their supporters.

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Anonymous wrote:Video of 2 month old Laila Junaid in Gaza. She weighs about 4.5 lbs and is starving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qImWH3DDF-c

So sad. This deliberate starvation is a war crime, and Israel needs to be held accountable. There is further information at https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/27/starvation-anatomy-of-a-very-cruel-slow-death.

Hamas could end this today. Why won't they? Why are these fat Hamas leaders hiding out in other countries, refusing to negotiate in good faith, while their people starve?

Is it possibly because things are better for them if their people suffer?

+100. The starvation and suffering of the Gazan people is a willful, deliberate and calculated choice made by Hamas. They indeed COULD end it.

I think we all agree that Hamas is bad.

Hamas is not surrendering.

That does not give Israel the right to starve the people of Gaza. This is on Israel.

From the ICJ ruling yesterday:

In conformity with its obligations under the Genocide Convention, and in view of the worsening conditions of life faced by Palestinians in Gaza, in particular the spread of famine and starvation, Israel shall: (a) take all necessary and effective measures to ensure, without delay, in full co-operation with the United Nations, the unhindered provision at scale by all concerned of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance, including food, water, electricity, fuel, shelter, clothing, hygiene and sanitation requirements, as well as medical supplies and medical care to Palestinians throughout Gaza, including by increasing the capacity and number of land crossing points and maintaining them open for as long as necessary;

https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240328-ord-01-00-en.pdf

The ICJ also said Hamas needed to unconditionally release all Israeli prisoners. That was in the LAST one, yet Hamas has failed to do so.

How is it that only one side is expected to comply while the other can continue to do whatever they like? That's not fair.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Video of 2 month old Laila Junaid in Gaza. She weighs about 4.5 lbs and is starving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qImWH3DDF-c

So sad. This deliberate starvation is a war crime, and Israel needs to be held accountable. There is further information at https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/27/starvation-anatomy-of-a-very-cruel-slow-death.

Hamas could end this today. Why won't they? Why are these fat Hamas leaders hiding out in other countries, refusing to negotiate in good faith, while their people starve?

Is it possibly because things are better for them if their people suffer?

+100. The starvation and suffering of the Gazan people is a willful, deliberate and calculated choice made by Hamas. They indeed COULD end it.

I think we all agree that Hamas is bad.

Hamas is not surrendering.

That does not give Israel the right to starve the people of Gaza. This is on Israel.

From the ICJ ruling yesterday:

In conformity with its obligations under the Genocide Convention, and in view of the worsening conditions of life faced by Palestinians in Gaza, in particular the spread of famine and starvation, Israel shall: (a) take all necessary and effective measures to ensure, without delay, in full co-operation with the United Nations, the unhindered provision at scale by all concerned of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance, including food, water, electricity, fuel, shelter, clothing, hygiene and sanitation requirements, as well as medical supplies and medical care to Palestinians throughout Gaza, including by increasing the capacity and number of land crossing points and maintaining them open for as long as necessary;

https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240328-ord-01-00-en.pdf

Weird that Hamas is only mentioned once in that entire document.

50. In its Order of 26 January 2024, the Court expressed its grave concern over the fate of the
hostages abducted during the attack in Israel on 7 October 2023 and held since then by Hamas and
other armed groups, and called for their immediate and unconditional release. The Court finds it
deeply troubling that many of these hostages remain in captivity and reiterates its call for their
immediate and unconditional release.

Pretty pathetic and lame on the part of the ICJ if you ask me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Video of 2 month old Laila Junaid in Gaza. She weighs about 4.5 lbs and is starving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qImWH3DDF-c

So sad. This deliberate starvation is a war crime, and Israel needs to be held accountable. There is further information at https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/27/starvation-anatomy-of-a-very-cruel-slow-death.

Hamas could end this today. Why won't they? Why are these fat Hamas leaders hiding out in other countries, refusing to negotiate in good faith, while their people starve?

Is it possibly because things are better for them if their people suffer?

+100. The starvation and suffering of the Gazan people is a willful, deliberate and calculated choice made despite Hamas. Israelis indeed COULD end it.

FTFY

Incorrect. This didn't happen in a vaccum.

[Anonymous]

I'm thankful that Jose Andres and World Central Kitchen have been delivering tens of millions of meals to hungry Gazans, and that they helped lead the charge to build a pier for getting food in by sea.

UNRWA on the other hand made a mess of itself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Video of 2 month old Laila Junaid in Gaza. She weighs about 4.5 lbs and is starving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qImWH3DDF-c

So sad. This deliberate starvation is a war crime, and Israel needs to be held accountable. There is further information at https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/27/starvation-anatomy-of-a-very-cruel-slow-death.

Hamas could end this today. Why won't they? Why are these fat Hamas leaders hiding out in other countries, refusing to negotiate in good faith, while their people starve?

Is it possibly because things are better for them if their people suffer?

+100. The starvation and suffering of the Gazan people is a willful, deliberate and calculated choice made by Hamas. They indeed COULD end it.

I think we all agree that Hamas is bad.

Hamas is not surrendering.

That does not give Israel the right to starve the people of Gaza. This is on Israel.

From the ICJ ruling yesterday:

In conformity with its obligations under the Genocide Convention, and in view of the worsening conditions of life faced by Palestinians in Gaza, in particular the spread of famine and starvation, Israel shall: (a) take all necessary and effective measures to ensure, without delay, in full co-operation with the United Nations, the unhindered provision at scale by all concerned of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance, including food, water, electricity, fuel, shelter, clothing, hygiene and sanitation requirements, as well as medical supplies and medical care to Palestinians throughout Gaza, including by increasing the capacity and number of land crossing points and maintaining them open for as long as necessary;

https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240328-ord-01-00-en.pdf

The ICJ also said Hamas needed to unconditionally release all Israeli prisoners. That was in the LAST one, yet Hamas has failed to do so.

How is it that only one side is expected to comply while the other can continue to do whatever they like? That's not fair.

Yes, Hamas should release hostages.

But being told to not starve over 2 million people is not unfair.

“According to the most respected measure of these things, 100 percent of the population in Gaza is at severe levels of acute food insecurity. That's the first time an entire population has been so classified,” - Antony Blinken

So that is about 23,000 people being denied food and other humanitarian aid for every 1 hostage.

There are also more than 3500 Palestinians held without charges in Israeli detention. You can call them prisoners. I would call them hostages.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Photo of the year winner goes to someone who took part in October 7 https://www.thejc.com/news/world/outrage-as-photograph-showing-body-of-shani-louk-wins-competition-rd8tv6qq

I recall seeing the video as they brought her lifeless body into Gaza. What struck me was the savage cheers of all the Palestinians. Even children were abusing that poor woman’s body.

There is no peace to be had with such people. Hamas and their supporters are no different than ISIS.

Remember, Zionists have been doing similar things to Palestinians since the Nakba. Some of the things Netanyahu claimed happened on 10/7, and that later turned out to be false (such as baking a baby in an oven) were actually done to Palestinians. And then Israel can't understand why Palestinians hate them so much.

In the aftermath of 10/7, when did the IDF parade naked Palestinian girls around on the street? When did the IDF bake Palestinian babies in ovens?

Why do you keep resorting to even worse hyperbole than the Israeli side?

Note that I didn't say "IDF." I said, "Zionists." Zionists have committed appalling, racially motivated atrocities against Palestinians for decades, and this is not hyperbole but fact. When Israeli sources falsely claimed that a baby had been baked in an oven, they might have had the story of 18-month-old Ali Dawabsheh in the back of their minds. Ali, along with his parents, was burned to death in an arson attack by a Zionist terrorist, Amiram Ben-Uliel. During the Nakba, Zionist terrorist groups, including the IDF, raped, murdered, and looted their way across what is now Israel. Another "burned child in an oven" story comes from the Deir Yassin massacre. It is reported that Irgun terrorists ordered a Palestinian baker to throw his son into an oven. When he refused, the Irgun beat him, threw his son into the oven, and threw the baker in after him. This is described in the documentary 1948: Creation and Catastrophe. Many of the atrocities perpetrated during the Nakba are described by Zionist veterans, who tell of rapes, mass executions, and theft (see the documentary Tantura). Obviously, what happened to Shani Louk was horrible and should never have happened, but I don't think she was naked. She was wearing the outfit she wore to the festival. Obviously, all the atrocities committed by Hamas and other militant groups on 10/7 must be roundly condemned, but these behaviors are being used to create racist tropes and pretend that all Palestinians are monsters and deserve their current suffering. We need to remember that Israel and Zionist militants have done similar things but on a much larger scale.

You're just gesturing around broadly. The death of Ali was at the hands of one nutjob, it happened years ago, and the Israeli justice system sentenced him to prison for three life sentences. That last part in particular undermines your narrative about "zionists" since obviously the Jewish court system disagreed with Ben-Uliel's actions.

You don't want Palestinians to be held accountable for the heinous actions of Hamas yet you want all Jews to be held accountable for the actions of one crazy person?

Of course, Palestinians, in general, should not be held accountable for the heinous actions of Hamas. The Hamas militants (and other participating groups) who engaged in 10/7 should be held accountable. 40% of Gazans are 14 and under and bear the brunt of the suffering. Why are they being made scapegoats for Hamas's crimes? The equivalent would be to bomb and starve all Jewish settlers in the West Bank for the actions of Ben-Uliel (whose behavior, by the way, is not particularly unusual -- those settlers too often get a pass on violence). If you're going to point to a few random Palestinians cheering over the body of Shani Louk, remember that Israelis chanted, "Ali's on the grill!" during court proceedings while Israeli police stood by and ignored them. Some Israelis are agitating to release Ben-Uliel. Itamar Ben-Gvir, who has been convicted of supporting a terrorist organization and inciting racism, visited the grave of Zionist terrorist Baruch Goldstein, who murdered 29 Palestinians. According to one survey, 10% of Israelis consider Goldstein to be a national hero (https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-733523). And while Ali's case attracted international attention and necessitated a response, settlers and the IDF routinely commit atrocities in the West Bank that are not prosecuted (https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2023/11/06/settlers-are-causing-mayhem-in-the-west-bank).

As for "gesturing around broadly, it is well documented that Zionist terrorists committed widespread atrocities during the Nakba and have continued to do so since. I suggest you read Ilan Pappe's The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine. The typical Israeli response to such atrocities is, "Get over it. Give up your claims and accept Zionist supremacy." It is sheer hypocrisy to expect Palestinians to lie down and die in the face of abuse while Israelis exact extreme vengeance and engage in collective punishment in the face of similar atrocities.

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Anonymous wrote:Video of 2 month old Laila Junaid in Gaza. She weighs about 4.5 lbs and is starving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qImWH3DDF-c

So sad. This deliberate starvation is a war crime, and Israel needs to be held accountable. There is further information at https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/27/starvation-anatomy-of-a-very-cruel-slow-death.

Hamas could end this today. Why won't they? Why are these fat Hamas leaders hiding out in other countries, refusing to negotiate in good faith, while their people starve?

Is it possibly because things are better for them if their people suffer?

+100. The starvation and suffering of the Gazan people is a willful, deliberate and calculated choice made by Hamas. They indeed COULD end it.

I think we all agree that Hamas is bad.

Hamas is not surrendering.

That does not give Israel the right to starve the people of Gaza. This is on Israel.

From the ICJ ruling yesterday:

In conformity with its obligations under the Genocide Convention, and in view of the worsening conditions of life faced by Palestinians in Gaza, in particular the spread of famine and starvation, Israel shall: (a) take all necessary and effective measures to ensure, without delay, in full co-operation with the United Nations, the unhindered provision at scale by all concerned of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance, including food, water, electricity, fuel, shelter, clothing, hygiene and sanitation requirements, as well as medical supplies and medical care to Palestinians throughout Gaza, including by increasing the capacity and number of land crossing points and maintaining them open for as long as necessary;

https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240328-ord-01-00-en.pdf

The ICJ also said Hamas needed to unconditionally release all Israeli prisoners. That was in the LAST one, yet Hamas has failed to do so.

How is it that only one side is expected to comply while the other can continue to do whatever they like? That's not fair.

Yes, Hamas should release hostages.

But being told to not starve over 2 million people is not unfair.

“According to the most respected measure of these things, 100 percent of the population in Gaza is at severe levels of acute food insecurity. That's the first time an entire population has been so classified,” - Antony Blinken

So that is about 23,000 people being denied food and other humanitarian aid for every 1 hostage.

There are also more than 3500 Palestinians held without charges in Israeli detention. You can call them prisoners. I would call them hostages.

This. The hypocrisy is mind-blowing, and it obviously stems from racism. Palestinian life is simply worthless to many Israelis. They are considered subhuman.

[Anonymous]

US state department official says that famine may already be present in Gaza and that infant, newborn, and young child mortality is a problem.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/famine-is-quite-possibly-some-areas-northern-gaza-us-official-says-2024-03-29/

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Anonymous wrote:Video of 2 month old Laila Junaid in Gaza. She weighs about 4.5 lbs and is starving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qImWH3DDF-c

So sad. This deliberate starvation is a war crime, and Israel needs to be held accountable. There is further information at https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/27/starvation-anatomy-of-a-very-cruel-slow-death.

Hamas could end this today. Why won't they? Why are these fat Hamas leaders hiding out in other countries, refusing to negotiate in good faith, while their people starve?

Is it possibly because things are better for them if their people suffer?

+100. The starvation and suffering of the Gazan people is a willful, deliberate and calculated choice made by Hamas. They indeed COULD end it.

I think we all agree that Hamas is bad.

Hamas is not surrendering.

That does not give Israel the right to starve the people of Gaza. This is on Israel.

From the ICJ ruling yesterday:

In conformity with its obligations under the Genocide Convention, and in view of the worsening conditions of life faced by Palestinians in Gaza, in particular the spread of famine and starvation, Israel shall: (a) take all necessary and effective measures to ensure, without delay, in full co-operation with the United Nations, the unhindered provision at scale by all concerned of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance, including food, water, electricity, fuel, shelter, clothing, hygiene and sanitation requirements, as well as medical supplies and medical care to Palestinians throughout Gaza, including by increasing the capacity and number of land crossing points and maintaining them open for as long as necessary;

https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240328-ord-01-00-en.pdf

The ICJ also said Hamas needed to unconditionally release all Israeli prisoners. That was in the LAST one, yet Hamas has failed to do so.

How is it that only one side is expected to comply while the other can continue to do whatever they like? That's not fair.

Yes, Hamas should release hostages.

But being told to not starve over 2 million people is not unfair.

“According to the most respected measure of these things, 100 percent of the population in Gaza is at severe levels of acute food insecurity. That's the first time an entire population has been so classified,” - Antony Blinken

So that is about 23,000 people being denied food and other humanitarian aid for every 1 hostage.

There are also more than 3500 Palestinians held without charges in Israeli detention. You can call them prisoners. I would call them hostages.

This. The hypocrisy is mind-blowing, and it obviously stems from racism. Palestinian life is simply worthless to many Israelis. They are considered subhuman.

Further to this concept, the Israeli courts have actually used contempt for Palestinian life to reduce sentences for IDF committing atrocities! In 1949, an IDF unit at Nirim in the Negev murdered a Bedouin man and kidnapped his teenage daughter, whom they raped and then murdered. The murder and trial were classified as secret. Moshe, the IDF commander, was found guilty of murder and given a 15-year sentence, and 19 other IDF members were given light sentences. Moshe ordered one of his men to drive the girl into the desert and shoot her, saying, "It was a shame to waste the petrol."

An appeals court reduced their sentences, stating, "At the time, there was a general feeling of contempt for the life of Arabs ... and sometimes wanton events occurred in this sphere. All this helped create an atmosphere of 'anything goes'. We are convinced that this atmosphere existed at the Nirim outpost, too."

This is horrific! An Israeli court tried to justify "a general feeling of contempt for the life of Arabs"! This was the court's excuse for the IDF's crimes against humanity! Sadly, the same outlook obviously persists, as evidenced by the genocide in Gaza and the abuse of Palestinians in the West Bank.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2003/nov/04/israel1?fbclid=IwAR19zDxG9p3oh-7Urp28evaPWObjTjEfxobuG-oBLfxr7w1-RsBDJ8FsvZk_aem_AZoci5hPsxglvrt-W31ZJKM2k5Q0cCqHvjBFfpNY-86S4mN_hOY4ZlFkQ_F6vCH51hbhvMG_K4rY_DpDPwZR2EP0

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Anonymous wrote:US state department official says that famine may already be present in Gaza and that infant, newborn, and young child mortality is a problem.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/famine-is-quite-possibly-some-areas-northern-gaza-us-official-says-2024-03-29/

Guess Hamas should really stop stealing the food we're trying to send them, then.

In fact, if they hadn't committed a massacre, it wouldn't have happened at all. They could stop this immediately if they return the hostages and surrender. But I'm sure youre putting all your energy into ensuring that they do this already, and you're definitely not trying to strengthen their bargaining position so they prolong the torture of the hostages and those citizens of Gaza who may possibly not support Hamas!