ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:What are the odds that ECNL clubs will allow for some 'exceptions' in the 2025-2026 year to allow trapped players to play on their SY team (vs. having to wait a full year to get to that team). Has anybody heard local clubs talking about whether they will start making exceptions vs. waiting 18 months to start on this?

No official word from ECNL as of yet. They are sanctioned by US Club so I don’t know what they could do in the interim unless they went rogue. Which is highly unlikely.

This wouldn't exactly being going rogue. ECNL already has their own rules for trapped eight grade players. Expanding that in some sort to all age groups a transition year is probably at least a 50% likelihood.

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Anonymous wrote:Any word on when the transition plan for 25/26 will be out?

You'd think it would be pretty soon - and before 25/26 tryouts for most teams.

Because US Club, USYS and AYSO agreed on the 9/1 date, you'd imagine they'll all be consulted and put out a unified set of suggestions for clubs to follow on 25/26 team formation / leagues and cups. Getting everyone to agree would take a little time of course.

Err .. some entire regions have already completed tryouts

Those regions can re-do their tryouts if they want to. Not sure why people believe tryouts = set in stone. Rules change - and you can adjust or not. It's up to the club.

Our ECNL team keep adding new players year around.

Yup, and much like the various school year registration dates. Some have happened, but MOST have not.

ECNL roster can have 28 players. It depends on the club's culture. Our club's ECNL teams usually have 22 to 24 players. So if your current team only has 18 players, I do not see why the coach will stop adding new players or demote some players to play in the RL games.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the odds that ECNL clubs will allow for some 'exceptions' in the 2025-2026 year to allow trapped players to play on their SY team (vs. having to wait a full year to get to that team). Has anybody heard local clubs talking about whether they will start making exceptions vs. waiting 18 months to start on this?

No official word from ECNL as of yet. They are sanctioned by US Club so I don’t know what they could do in the interim unless they went rogue. Which is highly unlikely.

This wouldn't exactly being going rogue. ECNL already has their own rules for trapped eight grade players. Expanding that in some sort to all age groups a transition year is probably at least a 50% likelihood.

USYS and US Club are trying to stay on the same page it looks like. And most clubs won't want to deal with two sets of rosters: one for By events/leagues and one for SY events/leagues.

I think you're right that the most likely "guidance" for all will be that in 25/26, 9/1 to 12/31 players can play down. And the clubs can choose to follow the guidance - or not.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the odds that ECNL clubs will allow for some 'exceptions' in the 2025-2026 year to allow trapped players to play on their SY team (vs. having to wait a full year to get to that team). Has anybody heard local clubs talking about whether they will start making exceptions vs. waiting 18 months to start on this?

No official word from ECNL as of yet. They are sanctioned by US Club so I don’t know what they could do in the interim unless they went rogue. Which is highly unlikely.

This wouldn't exactly being going rogue. ECNL already has their own rules for trapped eight grade players. Expanding that in some sort to all age groups a transition year is probably at least a 50% likelihood.

USYS and US Club are trying to stay on the same page it looks like. And most clubs won't want to deal with two sets of rosters: one for By events/leagues and one for SY events/leagues.

I think you're right that the most likely "guidance" for all will be that in 25/26, 9/1 to 12/31 players can play down. And the clubs can choose to follow the guidance - or not.

If they expand their trapped player rule from 8th grade to all age groups. They may also add a cap such as only 2/3 Q3/Q4 players can play in a game.

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Anonymous wrote:MLSN will add U11-12 for BY feeder system. GA going to add biobanding option.
Both plan on staying birth year.

That's like buying a cow just to drink milk.

MLSN will stay top dog no matter its BY or SY. All that trouble just to stay BY ? For what ?

There is absolutely no incentive for pay to play MLSN team to stay in BY. As long as MLS Academy BY team is fine to play against pay to play MLSN SY team, then it is just pure stupid for MLSN to stay in BY alone.

MLSN will do whatever MLS tells them to do. What don’t you understand about that. If that means everyone else is SY and they have to recruit for players for their By teams then that’s what they will do.

I’ve talked with my sons coach/director at MLSN club he doesn’t see it as an issue because MLSN has biobanding and they will just recruit the best kids within BY system and add additional SY strong players with biobanding if needed.

I don't think you understand...MLS isn't deluded into thinking that only Q1/Q2 kid are worthy of a spot in their academy's, it's a business and it is profitable to sell kids to the premier league who high value kids born in the Q4. The 9/1 date didn't come out of the blue, it was the date that aligns with the UK who obviously still operates under FIFA rules.

Birth restrictions don’t apply to High value kids you can sell to Europe? Those kids can’t play up 2-3 years at an early age. In all reality a one year registration for is for the masses not for the small group of truly elite players.

Also I’m just telling you what I was told and that MLS has not given the green light for their league as of yet.

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Anonymous wrote:MLSN will add U11-12 for BY feeder system. GA going to add biobanding option.
Both plan on staying birth year.

That's like buying a cow just to drink milk.

MLSN will stay top dog no matter its BY or SY. All that trouble just to stay BY ? For what ?

There is absolutely no incentive for pay to play MLSN team to stay in BY. As long as MLS Academy BY team is fine to play against pay to play MLSN SY team, then it is just pure stupid for MLSN to stay in BY alone.

MLSN will do whatever MLS tells them to do. What don’t you understand about that. If that means everyone else is SY and they have to recruit for players for their By teams then that’s what they will do.

I’ve talked with my sons coach/director at MLSN club he doesn’t see it as an issue because MLSN has biobanding and they will just recruit the best kids within BY system and add additional SY strong players with biobanding if needed.

I don't think you understand...MLS isn't deluded into thinking that only Q1/Q2 kid are worthy of a spot in their academy's, it's a business and it is profitable to sell kids to the premier league who high value kids born in the Q4. The 9/1 date didn't come out of the blue, it was the date that aligns with the UK who obviously still operates under FIFA rules.

Birth restrictions don’t apply to High value kids you can sell to Europe? Those kids can’t play up 2-3 years at an early age. In all reality a one year registration for is for the masses not for the small group of truly elite players.

Also I’m just telling you what I was told and that MLS has not given the green light for their league as of yet.

They do and they don't if you look at our most recent exceptional players we have sent to Europe, a lot are in the back of half of the year, obviously that correlation doesn't mean everything(or anything), but it is there. I have heard the same about MLS, but I know that it is at least being considered with ID camps and such starting to come about, we probably won't know anything from them until much later in the year.

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ECNL and the new invite only ECRL league will allow teams to switch with rules in place starting next year. That will be announced at the end of spring before tryouts in May.
Rosters will be up to 30 spots. Players can only play one game in a weekend so players will be placed between RL/NL weekly for some clubs.

Clubs will add a bunch of players and decide who’s actually better the new older kids or their previous birth year team members.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL and the new invite only ECRL league will allow teams to switch with rules in place starting next year. That will be announced at the end of spring before tryouts in May.
Rosters will be up to 30 spots. Players can only play one game in a weekend so players will be placed between RL/NL weekly for some clubs.

Clubs will add a bunch of players and decide who’s actually better the new older kids or their previous birth year team members.

Rosters of 30.... The value of ECNL continues to improve!

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL and the new invite only ECRL league will allow teams to switch with rules in place starting next year. That will be announced at the end of spring before tryouts in May.
Rosters will be up to 30 spots. Players can only play one game in a weekend so players will be placed between RL/NL weekly for some clubs.

Clubs will add a bunch of players and decide who’s actually better the new older kids or their previous birth year team members.

Tryouts are happening now for ECNL and ECNL RL so it will be too late by the time they announce if kids can play with the younger age group if they are a q4 kid.

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Rosters will be up to 30 spots. Players can only play one game in a weekend so players will be placed between RL/NL weekly for some clubs.

Current rules are one game a day not weekend - changing that would cause widespread havoc in scheduling.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL and the new invite only ECRL league will allow teams to switch with rules in place starting next year. That will be announced at the end of spring before tryouts in May.
Rosters will be up to 30 spots. Players can only play one game in a weekend so players will be placed between RL/NL weekly for some clubs.

Clubs will add a bunch of players and decide who’s actually better the new older kids or their previous birth year team members.

Tryouts are happening now for ECNL and ECNL RL so it will be too late by the time they announce if kids can play with the younger age group if they are a q4 kid.

If you look at ECNL team roster, a lot of teams have 22 or more players. It is not an issue to add another five players. Good to increase club's bottom line.

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How does that work if they roster 22-30 kids? Do they split them up and play two separate games or do you have that many kids just sitting on the bench?

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Rosters will be up to 30 spots. Players can only play one game in a weekend so players will be placed between RL/NL weekly for some clubs.

Current rules are one game a day not weekend - changing that would cause widespread havoc in scheduling.

ECNL will play Saturday and ECRL will play Sundays. One game a weekend. That’s why they will need big rosters so they have the flexibility to move kids up and down as needed.

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Also clubs/teams do not need 30 players that’s just what the limit will Be for an ECNL team.

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Rosters will be up to 30 spots. Players can only play one game in a weekend so players will be placed between RL/NL weekly for some clubs.

Current rules are one game a day not weekend - changing that would cause widespread havoc in scheduling.

ECNL will play Saturday and ECRL will play Sundays. One game a weekend. That’s why they will need big rosters so they have the flexibility to move kids up and down as needed.

That makes sense now