The admissions change we can maybe all agree on . . .

[Anonymous]

International students have grown to over 15 percent, sometimes well over 20 percent of the class at elite schools. Nearly all these students are full pay from wealthy families because only a handful of schools provide aid to international students.
Congress should pass a law that any school receiving federal research money to limit international students to no more than five percent of the class, similar to the restrictions some state schools put on out of state students. More spots for do oestic students of all races and ethnicities.

[Anonymous]

Interesting

[Anonymous]

But according to pro-legacy advocates, those schools need the $$ to provide financial aid to needy students. International students pay a buttload of money to go to those univs.

(I think this is a BS argument, btw).

[Anonymous]

Nope I don’t agree with that at all.

[Anonymous]

What's your problem with international students? I don't have any problem with whatever % schools want to accept. Education has no boundaries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:International students have grown to over 15 percent, sometimes well over 20 percent of the class at elite schools. Nearly all these students are full pay from wealthy families because only a handful of schools provide aid to international students.
Congress should pass a law that any school receiving federal research money to limit international students to no more than five percent of the class, similar to the restrictions some state schools put on out of state students. More spots for do oestic students of all races and ethnicities.

No this is stupid. How do you think colleges get their money? Without these full pay folks your price would be way higher. This is like the people that get annoyed at first class on planes. Sure -- eliminate it and your prices will go up because first is often paying for coach. The federal government should stay out of education in this way. Racial issues are different -- that is Constitutional. The rest should be left alone.

[Anonymous]

A number of colleges need that high percentage of international students to balance their budgets. Not the top-ranked ones certainly, but they have other motives, eg global networking opportunities for future captains of industries. Don't see this going anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But according to pro-legacy advocates, those schools need the $$ to provide financial aid to needy students. International students pay a buttload of money to go to those univs.

(I think this is a BS argument, btw).

Why BS? Where is the money going to come from?

[Anonymous]

Yes, let's stop attracting the brightest global minds to our country. Moron.

[Anonymous]

Sorry but I don’t agree. International students are human beings too. And you’re flat wrong in thinking they’re all rich and full pay. They’re not.

Your kid doesn’t have a friggin God given right to attend an elite college. Get over it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But according to pro-legacy advocates, those schools need the $$ to provide financial aid to needy students. International students pay a buttload of money to go to those univs.

(I think this is a BS argument, btw).

That IS a BS argument. I read somewhere that Harvard can afford to subsidize tuition for all their students by upto 95% just on the returns of their endowments alone. They don't need the money. Also, every International student not being admitted can very easily be replaced by a full-pay US student so there's no revenue loss. This is just the ivies and other top schools being pretentious A-holes. They should just open satellite campuses (if not already there) at these countries (India, China, Middle East) and have foreign kids go there with a semester abroad in the US.

[Anonymous]

COA will be even higher without their money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But according to pro-legacy advocates, those schools need the $$ to provide financial aid to needy students. International students pay a buttload of money to go to those univs.

(I think this is a BS argument, btw).

Why BS? Where is the money going to come from?

From full-pay US students!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A number of colleges need that high percentage of international students to balance their budgets. Not the top-ranked ones certainly, but they have other motives, eg global networking opportunities for future captains of industries. Don't see this going anywhere.

Good point. Let's limit their admissions to schools ranked 150 or below.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But according to pro-legacy advocates, those schools need the $$ to provide financial aid to needy students. International students pay a buttload of money to go to those univs.

(I think this is a BS argument, btw).

That IS a BS argument. I read somewhere that Harvard can afford to subsidize tuition for all their students by upto 95% just on the returns of their endowments alone. They don't need the money. Also, every International student not being admitted can very easily be replaced by a full-pay US student so there's no revenue loss. This is just the ivies and other top schools being pretentious A-holes. They should just open satellite campuses (if not already there) at these countries (India, China, Middle East) and have foreign kids go there with a semester abroad in the US.

Yeah, but that's like telling high HHI family they don't need money. Of course they NEED money. High endowment =/= not needing money.