Big Beautiful Bill

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Anonymous wrote:First casulty:

https://www.klkntv.com/rural-southwest-nebraska-clinic-closes-blaming-expected-medicaid-cuts/

Lost jobs.
Lost services.



59% of Nebraska voted for trump. Shut down that clinic.


These are the things I have no empathy for. Elections have consequences and now those folks are gonig to feel the consequences.


See this is the thing people are tired of.
Dems are just so mean and hating. Republicans want t to fix things even for the haters.


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Be honest, you're trolling, right? You can't possibly be this delusional. Either way, I hope you and yours get exactly what you voted for.


^^even if you don’t have the brain power to understand wtf you voted for.
Anonymous
There is still a chance to stop this bill specifically the Medicaid cut. I don’t think Trump is even aware the Medicaid cuts are in the bill. Even if you are not on any type of assistance, the cuts to Medicaid will decimate our healthcare system. Hospitals in blue areas are already making cuts. No one will be immune from this. No one!
https://indivisible.org/resource/call-now-tell-your-republican-representative-you-dont-want-pay-price-their-billionaire-tax
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:First casulty:

https://www.klkntv.com/rural-southwest-nebraska-clinic-closes-blaming-expected-medicaid-cuts/

Lost jobs.
Lost services.



A $50 bn bailout fund for rural hospitals is spitting in the wind in comparison to $1 trillion in Medicaid cuts. More hospitals will close. Collins is deeply concerned, I'm sure.

From the story: A clinic in southwest Nebraska announced Wednesday that it is closing due to financial challenges, including anticipated Medicaid cuts.


It’s interesting what this bail out for rural hospital signals. Basically rural, hint, white, gets the bail out, but blue cities, black and brown people, can F themselves.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First casulty:

https://www.klkntv.com/rural-southwest-nebraska-clinic-closes-blaming-expected-medicaid-cuts/

Lost jobs.
Lost services.



A $50 bn bailout fund for rural hospitals is spitting in the wind in comparison to $1 trillion in Medicaid cuts. More hospitals will close. Collins is deeply concerned, I'm sure.

From the story: A clinic in southwest Nebraska announced Wednesday that it is closing due to financial challenges, including anticipated Medicaid cuts.


It’s interesting what this bail out for rural hospital signals. Basically rural, hint, white, gets the bail out, but blue cities, black and brown people, can F themselves.


That's the story of America. Happy 4th! đŸ‡ș🇾
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Anonymous wrote:No friggin wonder nearly 20% of our economy is health care. Time to blow it up.

I don't care what state, party, or demographic you want to cite. Get rid of it before it bankrupts us.


You want to blow up 29% of our economy? Are you somehow immune to suffering?


Republicans hate our country and want to destroy it.


I’m really not clear about the long game here. What do they think they’ll be left with?

Unless the plan is to play in other people’s countries once they’ve ruined this one, or to stay secluded on their yachts, don’t they get that their expensive, exalted lives rest heavily on the backs of people whose names they don’t care to know? People who sacrificed the time and money it took to go to med school, people who pilot the helicopters, people who clean and caretake and keep things running; People who provide services that many of us want and most of us will need at some point — those people and those resources won’t be there anymore. The super wealthy will continue to have choices. The richest family in rural western wherever might not — hospitals are already starting to close, and the businesses that they support and the incomes that they provide will be toast. That means suffering for many of us, but it also means the crumbling of the infrastructures that support their/ our lives — from the essentials to some of the fun stuff. Some of the not wealthy MAGAs are already feeling the shocks.

It would be nice if enough of this clicks in time for them to call their Representatives NOW.




This bill gives Republicans what they have wanted for years. Cuts to the social safety net and lower taxes for corporations and the rich. They've cried crocodile tears about the deficit for 25 years while adding to it every time they are in charge. This is just more of the same, but they finally got their Medicaid cuts and SNAP.

The problem for Republicans now is the working class put them back in power. Their benefits get cut and they won't get much from the new goodies in the bill.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:No tax on tips or overtime (up to 25
k for joint filing) !! Child tax credit! Auto loan interest deduction! Increased contribution for HSA. Strengthen medicare. So many things!! Border security! More opportunity in USA!! It is a good thing for everyone even the people who do not like Trump!


All those things are peanuts compared to your worsening quality of life, constrained opportunities, and complete lack of political voice in a world of yet wider income distribution.

The richer and richer the billionaires, the more and more negligible you are.

Be clear that over the past 10-15 years, billionaires individual wealth has increased more than 10x. Is that true for your assets?


Agreed, but this would have some meaning coming from a party that ran, but didn’t torpedo, Bernie Sanders. Billionaires would be fine under Harris too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First casulty:

https://www.klkntv.com/rural-southwest-nebraska-clinic-closes-blaming-expected-medicaid-cuts/

Lost jobs.
Lost services.



A $50 bn bailout fund for rural hospitals is spitting in the wind in comparison to $1 trillion in Medicaid cuts. More hospitals will close. Collins is deeply concerned, I'm sure.

From the story: A clinic in southwest Nebraska announced Wednesday that it is closing due to financial challenges, including anticipated Medicaid cuts.


It’s interesting what this bail out for rural hospital signals. Basically rural, hint, white, gets the bail out, but blue cities, black and brown people, can F themselves.


That's the story of America. Happy 4th! đŸ‡ș🇾


a $50 bn bail out fund won't go far. And will mostly just line hospital exec pockets while people without health care place greater burden on emergency care again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First casulty:

https://www.klkntv.com/rural-southwest-nebraska-clinic-closes-blaming-expected-medicaid-cuts/

Lost jobs.
Lost services.



A $50 bn bailout fund for rural hospitals is spitting in the wind in comparison to $1 trillion in Medicaid cuts. More hospitals will close. Collins is deeply concerned, I'm sure.

From the story: A clinic in southwest Nebraska announced Wednesday that it is closing due to financial challenges, including anticipated Medicaid cuts.


It’s interesting what this bail out for rural hospital signals. Basically rural, hint, white, gets the bail out, but blue cities, black and brown people, can F themselves.


That's the story of America. Happy 4th! đŸ‡ș🇾


a $50 bn bail out fund won't go far. And will mostly just line hospital exec pockets while people without health care place greater burden on emergency care again.


Also the story of America.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No friggin wonder nearly 20% of our economy is health care. Time to blow it up.

I don't care what state, party, or demographic you want to cite. Get rid of it before it bankrupts us.


You want to blow up 29% of our economy? Are you somehow immune to suffering?


Republicans hate our country and want to destroy it.


I’m really not clear about the long game here. What do they think they’ll be left with?

Unless the plan is to play in other people’s countries once they’ve ruined this one, or to stay secluded on their yachts, don’t they get that their expensive, exalted lives rest heavily on the backs of people whose names they don’t care to know? People who sacrificed the time and money it took to go to med school, people who pilot the helicopters, people who clean and caretake and keep things running; People who provide services that many of us want and most of us will need at some point — those people and those resources won’t be there anymore. The super wealthy will continue to have choices. The richest family in rural western wherever might not — hospitals are already starting to close, and the businesses that they support and the incomes that they provide will be toast. That means suffering for many of us, but it also means the crumbling of the infrastructures that support their/ our lives — from the essentials to some of the fun stuff. Some of the not wealthy MAGAs are already feeling the shocks.

It would be nice if enough of this clicks in time for them to call their Representatives NOW.




This bill gives Republicans what they have wanted for years. Cuts to the social safety net and lower taxes for corporations and the rich. They've cried crocodile tears about the deficit for 25 years while adding to it every time they are in charge. This is just more of the same, but they finally got their Medicaid cuts and SNAP.

The problem for Republicans now is the working class put them back in power. Their benefits get cut and they won't get much from the new goodies in the bill.


A lot of working class people get tips and overtime and they will seeing sizeably larger paychecks after this bill.

And if you don’t think Seniors, the most reliable voting bloc, won’t notice this Social Security tax cut you’re out of your mind.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/03/big-beautiful-bill-social-security

How it works: Both the House and Senate bills include an increased tax deduction for tax filers age 64 and older. In the Senate version, the new deduction is $6,000 for individuals and $12,000 for couples.

The deduction starts phasing out for those who earn over $75,000 ($150,000 for couples), and phases out completely at $175,000 for individuals and $250,000 for couples, in the Senate version.


This Dem spin on this bill is not going to matter if these no tax on tips, overtime, and Social Security deductions get implemented. These are incredibly large voting blocs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There is still a chance to stop this bill specifically the Medicaid cut. I don’t think Trump is even aware the Medicaid cuts are in the bill. Even if you are not on any type of assistance, the cuts to Medicaid will decimate our healthcare system. Hospitals in blue areas are already making cuts. No one will be immune from this. No one!
https://indivisible.org/resource/call-now-tell-your-republican-representative-you-dont-want-pay-price-their-billionaire-tax


He isn't aware of it. Republicans are walking the plank for this bill and Trump doesn't even know what's in it.

https://x.com/TheMaineWonk/status/1940553624926802386[twitter]

Trump had a sit-down with the more moderate House Republicans on Wednesday in which he told them that the three things they needed to let be if they wanted to win in 2026 and 2028: Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security.

“But we’re touching Medicaid in this bill,” one member told the president, according to NOTUS sources.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No friggin wonder nearly 20% of our economy is health care. Time to blow it up.

I don't care what state, party, or demographic you want to cite. Get rid of it before it bankrupts us.


You want to blow up 29% of our economy? Are you somehow immune to suffering?


Republicans hate our country and want to destroy it.


I’m really not clear about the long game here. What do they think they’ll be left with?

Unless the plan is to play in other people’s countries once they’ve ruined this one, or to stay secluded on their yachts, don’t they get that their expensive, exalted lives rest heavily on the backs of people whose names they don’t care to know? People who sacrificed the time and money it took to go to med school, people who pilot the helicopters, people who clean and caretake and keep things running; People who provide services that many of us want and most of us will need at some point — those people and those resources won’t be there anymore. The super wealthy will continue to have choices. The richest family in rural western wherever might not — hospitals are already starting to close, and the businesses that they support and the incomes that they provide will be toast. That means suffering for many of us, but it also means the crumbling of the infrastructures that support their/ our lives — from the essentials to some of the fun stuff. Some of the not wealthy MAGAs are already feeling the shocks.

It would be nice if enough of this clicks in time for them to call their Representatives NOW.




This bill gives Republicans what they have wanted for years. Cuts to the social safety net and lower taxes for corporations and the rich. They've cried crocodile tears about the deficit for 25 years while adding to it every time they are in charge. This is just more of the same, but they finally got their Medicaid cuts and SNAP.

The problem for Republicans now is the working class put them back in power. Their benefits get cut and they won't get much from the new goodies in the bill.


A lot of working class people get tips and overtime and they will seeing sizeably larger paychecks after this bill.

And if you don’t think Seniors, the most reliable voting bloc, won’t notice this Social Security tax cut you’re out of your mind.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/03/big-beautiful-bill-social-security

How it works: Both the House and Senate bills include an increased tax deduction for tax filers age 64 and older. In the Senate version, the new deduction is $6,000 for individuals and $12,000 for couples.

The deduction starts phasing out for those who earn over $75,000 ($150,000 for couples), and phases out completely at $175,000 for individuals and $250,000 for couples, in the Senate version.


This Dem spin on this bill is not going to matter if these no tax on tips, overtime, and Social Security deductions get implemented. These are incredibly large voting blocs.


They'll notice it alright. They'll notice that 50% of them aren't getting it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First casulty:

https://www.klkntv.com/rural-southwest-nebraska-clinic-closes-blaming-expected-medicaid-cuts/

Lost jobs.
Lost services.



A $50 bn bailout fund for rural hospitals is spitting in the wind in comparison to $1 trillion in Medicaid cuts. More hospitals will close. Collins is deeply concerned, I'm sure.

From the story: A clinic in southwest Nebraska announced Wednesday that it is closing due to financial challenges, including anticipated Medicaid cuts.



keep in mind cuts are for people who should not be getting this. If you are illegal and or if you are between 18-60 and able bodied. They are just asking you to volunteer or work 20 hours. Majority of people in the country are okay with this. I keep thinking if I was sneaking in another country the last thought on my mind would be how to get country I snuck in to give me things. Also would not think of asking USA to give me things if I was young and healthy. This is not about people who have legitimate problems because yes there are people from 18-60 who may not be well able to contribute. Also if you can’t find a job then volunteer a bit. How is this horrible?


This isn't what they are doing. It's illegal for undocumented people to get Medicaid. They know that. Most people currently on Medicaid work. Now, they will have onerous paperwork to do. The hope is that they won't keep up so they will be kicked off of Medicaid. It's a tactic. It's difficult for working people to take a day off to file the necessary paperwork (which is complicated).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No friggin wonder nearly 20% of our economy is health care. Time to blow it up.

I don't care what state, party, or demographic you want to cite. Get rid of it before it bankrupts us.


You want to blow up 29% of our economy? Are you somehow immune to suffering?


Republicans hate our country and want to destroy it.


I’m really not clear about the long game here. What do they think they’ll be left with?

Unless the plan is to play in other people’s countries once they’ve ruined this one, or to stay secluded on their yachts, don’t they get that their expensive, exalted lives rest heavily on the backs of people whose names they don’t care to know? People who sacrificed the time and money it took to go to med school, people who pilot the helicopters, people who clean and caretake and keep things running; People who provide services that many of us want and most of us will need at some point — those people and those resources won’t be there anymore. The super wealthy will continue to have choices. The richest family in rural western wherever might not — hospitals are already starting to close, and the businesses that they support and the incomes that they provide will be toast. That means suffering for many of us, but it also means the crumbling of the infrastructures that support their/ our lives — from the essentials to some of the fun stuff. Some of the not wealthy MAGAs are already feeling the shocks.

It would be nice if enough of this clicks in time for them to call their Representatives NOW.




This bill gives Republicans what they have wanted for years. Cuts to the social safety net and lower taxes for corporations and the rich. They've cried crocodile tears about the deficit for 25 years while adding to it every time they are in charge. This is just more of the same, but they finally got their Medicaid cuts and SNAP.

The problem for Republicans now is the working class put them back in power. Their benefits get cut and they won't get much from the new goodies in the bill.


A lot of working class people get tips and overtime and they will seeing sizeably larger paychecks after this bill.

And if you don’t think Seniors, the most reliable voting bloc, won’t notice this Social Security tax cut you’re out of your mind.

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/03/big-beautiful-bill-social-security

How it works: Both the House and Senate bills include an increased tax deduction for tax filers age 64 and older. In the Senate version, the new deduction is $6,000 for individuals and $12,000 for couples.

The deduction starts phasing out for those who earn over $75,000 ($150,000 for couples), and phases out completely at $175,000 for individuals and $250,000 for couples, in the Senate version.


This Dem spin on this bill is not going to matter if these no tax on tips, overtime, and Social Security deductions get implemented. These are incredibly large voting blocs.


Waitresses and cops will love it. What about receptionists? Pre-k teachers? Lots of low income people work in jobs that don't have tips or overtime.

Do we want people to leave those jobs to avoid taxes? That's not a good thing. More likely they will be mad that they don't benefit from these cuts.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No tax on tips or overtime (up to 25
k for joint filing) !! Child tax credit! Auto loan interest deduction! Increased contribution for HSA. Strengthen medicare. So many things!! Border security! More opportunity in USA!! It is a good thing for everyone even the people who do not like Trump!


Most people are not tipped workers. Major cuts to medicaid. Added $5T to the debt which means we will all pay more in interest. I make about $1M a year so I will get a tax cut. I don't need it. I benefit, but most people won't. Major tax breaks for the wealthy (I don't consider myself rich). Major cuts to clean energy which was creating thousands of manufacturing jobs and the cheapest and fastest to deploy energy. Subsidies for coal (this is embarrassing).
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Watch medicaid and welfare require work and people suddenly are not poor or sick anymore


Just wait until someone with antibiotic resistant TB coughs on your burger — while they limp over to bring it to you.

People will still be poor and sick — they’ll just be more likely to share it with people like you. Some of this will be visible and some of it won’t be. Think about the meth addicts who will be responsible for the safety of your food; The people with epilepsy and diabetes who will be driving to work — hoping that they will be able to afford their prescriptions; The chronically ill, unable to retire, who will be working in all types of service industry jobs — including child care, elder care, and health care support.

What’s really sad is that once enough people realize enough to go: Oopsie! — it really won’t be possible to put Humpty Dumpty back together again. People who are struggling to survive won’t have the wherewithal to take on more sacrifices in the pursuit of the kinds of careers that provide the kinds of services that most of us will desperately need at some point.


While I agree with you therein lies the problem - the pain will take a while to feel enabling Trump to spin his bill as beautiful. While this is a terrible bill this is not the hill that Dems should be dying on now. They needs to come up with a clear consistent message of what they will be for if they win back Congress in 2026 and what they would be for if they win the executive in 2028.
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