King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m stirring the pot, but many here are thinking outside the box, so here’s my crazy idea. Since so many people seem to hate IB, why not make South Lakes into TJ Northwest and KAA a regular neighborhood high school. Don’t a lot of Langley and Mclean kids get into TJ, but decide to stay in their district because TJ is so far? SL would be a good option. Current SL Lakes kids could go to KAA and Herndon. Maybe even some can backfill at Langley. Hey, they could even do some kind of aviation academy too with all the smart kids.


This would also protect the “Forestville Nervous Nellies” from the possibility being moved to Herndon.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m stirring the pot, but many here are thinking outside the box, so here’s my crazy idea. Since so many people seem to hate IB, why not make South Lakes into TJ Northwest and KAA a regular neighborhood high school. Don’t a lot of Langley and Mclean kids get into TJ, but decide to stay in their district because TJ is so far? SL would be a good option. Current SL Lakes kids could go to KAA and Herndon. Maybe even some can backfill at Langley. Hey, they could even do some kind of aviation academy too with all the smart kids.


So, now we have moved into the third option presented since the news about the purchase:

The Beginning: Objections because of the "process" even though this need has been in the work and approved for years.

Next: Let's make it a magnet school.

Now: Let's make South Lakes a magnet so that their kids can go to Herndon and KAA.

Wonder who is coming up with these ideas?

And, who knew so many Langley kids turned down TJ?
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m stirring the pot, but many here are thinking outside the box, so here’s my crazy idea. Since so many people seem to hate IB, why not make South Lakes into TJ Northwest and KAA a regular neighborhood high school. Don’t a lot of Langley and Mclean kids get into TJ, but decide to stay in their district because TJ is so far? SL would be a good option. Current SL Lakes kids could go to KAA and Herndon. Maybe even some can backfill at Langley. Hey, they could even do some kind of aviation academy too with all the smart kids.


That is a crazy idea. Reston needs its own high school, even if some Reston kids go to other schools.
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Anonymous wrote:If you think people complaining about FCPS spending $150M for something that’s been in the plans for 20 years is bad, wait to see how they react to spending $150M for something (Aviation Acadeny, TJ West, etc) that’s been in no plans.


Well, just to play devils advocate here, people appear to be upset about the secrecy and lack of disclosure, not necessarily about the school; and just because you spent 20 years assuming that the western school would benefit your area doesn’t mean that the school board is beholden to you.


No one is upset about nonexistent "secrecy"'except one poster on here, you.


Not just on here, aren’t you up in arms about some next door posts? Weird that you just conveniently forget your talking points when it suits your argument.


The only person desperately parroting talking points is you.

The rest of us are discussing this great new school!


So you really think that the budget should revolve around you? It’d be interesting to take a poll of Fairfax county to see how many people would support a magnet over a school devoted to fixing pretend capacity issues in your area. (Though I’ll concede that your split feeder situation does suck, but will remind you that you bought your house knowing the situation).

I think you’d probably get 80% support a new magnet with available options for their kids to go to it if they are smart enough.

It’s the reason it’s actually being discussed by the board, rather than just anonymous internet buffoons on an anonymous forum pretending like they deserve a school just because there was a placeholder in the CIP.

I think you two are pushing back so vociferously because you know I’m right. The community would be ecstatic to get a magnet west over placating a bunch of insufferable constituents who believe they are owed anything.


Of course people would vote that way because they would potentially benefit from a magnet school, whereas if they aren't in the area of KAA they wouldn't benefit from it. People are obviously going to vote in their self interest.


Honestly, most people are not interested in a magnet--except, maybe DCUM.


People in the western part of the county for sure are interested. Imagine not having to schlep to Alexandria every day because your kid’s a genius.


No. They are tired of their neighborhoods being split off.


Some people are thinking more long term. I agree neighborhoods should stick together but that doesn't mean entire zip codes.


With the neighborhoods close to KAA, it is the neighborhoods.



I don’t disagree that neighborhoods near KAA want to go to that school, but the people pretending like there isn’t broad support for a TJ-type school in that part of Fairfax are just self-interested and aren’t being serious.


DP. I doubt there's "broad" public support for another magnet and in any event the School Board has enough on its hands with TJ. You can keep complaining about TJ's location relative to western Fairfax, but overall the school facilities in western Fairfax are nicer than in eastern Fairfax. Not to mention that the "western HS" has always been envisioned primarily as a neighborhood high school that would create more stability in the Floris/Oak Hill area, which has been redistricted multiple times over the past 25 years.


Yes, we get that you envisioned the school as your own. You’ve mentioned that enough that you are clearly trying to will it into existence.

However, it’s laughable to say that there wouldn’t be broad support for another Tj, which would allow double the amount of Fairfax kids to go to an elite school. You don’t think the professional class in Fairfax would love that prospect and maybe even stick around to send their kids there rather than go private?
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m stirring the pot, but many here are thinking outside the box, so here’s my crazy idea. Since so many people seem to hate IB, why not make South Lakes into TJ Northwest and KAA a regular neighborhood high school. Don’t a lot of Langley and Mclean kids get into TJ, but decide to stay in their district because TJ is so far? SL would be a good option. Current SL Lakes kids could go to KAA and Herndon. Maybe even some can backfill at Langley. Hey, they could even do some kind of aviation academy too with all the smart kids.


So, now we have moved into the third option presented since the news about the purchase:

The Beginning: Objections because of the "process" even though this need has been in the work and approved for years.

Next: Let's make it a magnet school.

Now: Let's make South Lakes a magnet so that their kids can go to Herndon and KAA.

Wonder who is coming up with these ideas?

And, who knew so many Langley kids turned down TJ?

But also, if any school should turn into a magnet school, it’s Oakton, which doesn’t have its own middle school and is sandwiched within a mile between two other high schools.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m stirring the pot, but many here are thinking outside the box, so here’s my crazy idea. Since so many people seem to hate IB, why not make South Lakes into TJ Northwest and KAA a regular neighborhood high school. Don’t a lot of Langley and Mclean kids get into TJ, but decide to stay in their district because TJ is so far? SL would be a good option. Current SL Lakes kids could go to KAA and Herndon. Maybe even some can backfill at Langley. Hey, they could even do some kind of aviation academy too with all the smart kids.


So, now we have moved into the third option presented since the news about the purchase:

The Beginning: Objections because of the "process" even though this need has been in the work and approved for years.

Next: Let's make it a magnet school.

Now: Let's make South Lakes a magnet so that their kids can go to Herndon and KAA.

Wonder who is coming up with these ideas?

And, who knew so many Langley kids turned down TJ?


And we wonder where you live. Could it be that you’re the insufferable entitled who thinks she’s owed a $150 million handout from Fairfax taxpayers?

No need to answer, it’s rhetorical, we know who you are.
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Slides/agenda for last night's boundary review committee meeting were posted, and they appear to have completely glossed over the KAA acquisition.

https://www.fcps.edu/june-23-2025-superintendents-boundary-review-advisory-committee-meeting
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m stirring the pot, but many here are thinking outside the box, so here’s my crazy idea. Since so many people seem to hate IB, why not make South Lakes into TJ Northwest and KAA a regular neighborhood high school. Don’t a lot of Langley and Mclean kids get into TJ, but decide to stay in their district because TJ is so far? SL would be a good option. Current SL Lakes kids could go to KAA and Herndon. Maybe even some can backfill at Langley. Hey, they could even do some kind of aviation academy too with all the smart kids.


So, now we have moved into the third option presented since the news about the purchase:

The Beginning: Objections because of the "process" even though this need has been in the work and approved for years.

Next: Let's make it a magnet school.

Now: Let's make South Lakes a magnet so that their kids can go to Herndon and KAA.

Wonder who is coming up with these ideas?

And, who knew so many Langley kids turned down TJ?


And we wonder where you live. Could it be that you’re the insufferable entitled who thinks she’s owed a $150 million handout from Fairfax taxpayers?

No need to answer, it’s rhetorical, we know who you are.


Well, for sure, we know where you live.
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Anonymous wrote:If you think people complaining about FCPS spending $150M for something that’s been in the plans for 20 years is bad, wait to see how they react to spending $150M for something (Aviation Acadeny, TJ West, etc) that’s been in no plans.


Well, just to play devils advocate here, people appear to be upset about the secrecy and lack of disclosure, not necessarily about the school; and just because you spent 20 years assuming that the western school would benefit your area doesn’t mean that the school board is beholden to you.


No one is upset about nonexistent "secrecy"'except one poster on here, you.


Not just on here, aren’t you up in arms about some next door posts? Weird that you just conveniently forget your talking points when it suits your argument.


The only person desperately parroting talking points is you.

The rest of us are discussing this great new school!


So you really think that the budget should revolve around you? It’d be interesting to take a poll of Fairfax county to see how many people would support a magnet over a school devoted to fixing pretend capacity issues in your area. (Though I’ll concede that your split feeder situation does suck, but will remind you that you bought your house knowing the situation).

I think you’d probably get 80% support a new magnet with available options for their kids to go to it if they are smart enough.

It’s the reason it’s actually being discussed by the board, rather than just anonymous internet buffoons on an anonymous forum pretending like they deserve a school just because there was a placeholder in the CIP.

I think you two are pushing back so vociferously because you know I’m right. The community would be ecstatic to get a magnet west over placating a bunch of insufferable constituents who believe they are owed anything.


Of course people would vote that way because they would potentially benefit from a magnet school, whereas if they aren't in the area of KAA they wouldn't benefit from it. People are obviously going to vote in their self interest.


Honestly, most people are not interested in a magnet--except, maybe DCUM.


People in the western part of the county for sure are interested. Imagine not having to schlep to Alexandria every day because your kid’s a genius.


No. They are tired of their neighborhoods being split off.


Some people are thinking more long term. I agree neighborhoods should stick together but that doesn't mean entire zip codes.


With the neighborhoods close to KAA, it is the neighborhoods.



I don’t disagree that neighborhoods near KAA want to go to that school, but the people pretending like there isn’t broad support for a TJ-type school in that part of Fairfax are just self-interested and aren’t being serious.


DP. I doubt there's "broad" public support for another magnet and in any event the School Board has enough on its hands with TJ. You can keep complaining about TJ's location relative to western Fairfax, but overall the school facilities in western Fairfax are nicer than in eastern Fairfax. Not to mention that the "western HS" has always been envisioned primarily as a neighborhood high school that would create more stability in the Floris/Oak Hill area, which has been redistricted multiple times over the past 25 years.


Yes, we get that you envisioned the school as your own. You’ve mentioned that enough that you are clearly trying to will it into existence.

However, it’s laughable to say that there wouldn’t be broad support for another Tj, which would allow double the amount of Fairfax kids to go to an elite school. You don’t think the professional class in Fairfax would love that prospect and maybe even stick around to send their kids there rather than go private?

There isn't even broad support for the existing TJ. Most people outside DCUM hate that school and hate that public money is being spent on a special school for only certain kids. It's the epitome of inequity.
I'm not worried at all that the new school would be turned into some kind of magnet. They can't even agree on the admissions process for the one they already have. Those offhand comments by the board members were just sound bites for the press, "what ifs" and "could be's" to pat themselves on the back for their crazy smart purchase - nothing more.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m stirring the pot, but many here are thinking outside the box, so here’s my crazy idea. Since so many people seem to hate IB, why not make South Lakes into TJ Northwest and KAA a regular neighborhood high school. Don’t a lot of Langley and Mclean kids get into TJ, but decide to stay in their district because TJ is so far? SL would be a good option. Current SL Lakes kids could go to KAA and Herndon. Maybe even some can backfill at Langley. Hey, they could even do some kind of aviation academy too with all the smart kids.


So, now we have moved into the third option presented since the news about the purchase:

The Beginning: Objections because of the "process" even though this need has been in the work and approved for years.

Next: Let's make it a magnet school.

Now: Let's make South Lakes a magnet so that their kids can go to Herndon and KAA.

Wonder who is coming up with these ideas?

And, who knew so many Langley kids turned down TJ?


And we wonder where you live. Could it be that you’re the insufferable entitled who thinks she’s owed a $150 million handout from Fairfax taxpayers?

No need to answer, it’s rhetorical, we know who you are.

You sound ridiculous. Is every school building a handout? Maybe they should shut a few more down and sell them so taxpayers pay less. Just shove everyone into a few giant schools as tightly packed as possible, regardless of commutes and communities.
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Anonymous wrote:If you think people complaining about FCPS spending $150M for something that’s been in the plans for 20 years is bad, wait to see how they react to spending $150M for something (Aviation Acadeny, TJ West, etc) that’s been in no plans.


Well, just to play devils advocate here, people appear to be upset about the secrecy and lack of disclosure, not necessarily about the school; and just because you spent 20 years assuming that the western school would benefit your area doesn’t mean that the school board is beholden to you.


No one is upset about nonexistent "secrecy"'except one poster on here, you.


Not just on here, aren’t you up in arms about some next door posts? Weird that you just conveniently forget your talking points when it suits your argument.


The only person desperately parroting talking points is you.

The rest of us are discussing this great new school!


So you really think that the budget should revolve around you? It’d be interesting to take a poll of Fairfax county to see how many people would support a magnet over a school devoted to fixing pretend capacity issues in your area. (Though I’ll concede that your split feeder situation does suck, but will remind you that you bought your house knowing the situation).

I think you’d probably get 80% support a new magnet with available options for their kids to go to it if they are smart enough.

It’s the reason it’s actually being discussed by the board, rather than just anonymous internet buffoons on an anonymous forum pretending like they deserve a school just because there was a placeholder in the CIP.

I think you two are pushing back so vociferously because you know I’m right. The community would be ecstatic to get a magnet west over placating a bunch of insufferable constituents who believe they are owed anything.


Of course people would vote that way because they would potentially benefit from a magnet school, whereas if they aren't in the area of KAA they wouldn't benefit from it. People are obviously going to vote in their self interest.


Honestly, most people are not interested in a magnet--except, maybe DCUM.


People in the western part of the county for sure are interested. Imagine not having to schlep to Alexandria every day because your kid’s a genius.


No. They are tired of their neighborhoods being split off.


Some people are thinking more long term. I agree neighborhoods should stick together but that doesn't mean entire zip codes.


With the neighborhoods close to KAA, it is the neighborhoods.



I don’t disagree that neighborhoods near KAA want to go to that school, but the people pretending like there isn’t broad support for a TJ-type school in that part of Fairfax are just self-interested and aren’t being serious.


DP. I doubt there's "broad" public support for another magnet and in any event the School Board has enough on its hands with TJ. You can keep complaining about TJ's location relative to western Fairfax, but overall the school facilities in western Fairfax are nicer than in eastern Fairfax. Not to mention that the "western HS" has always been envisioned primarily as a neighborhood high school that would create more stability in the Floris/Oak Hill area, which has been redistricted multiple times over the past 25 years.


Yes, we get that you envisioned the school as your own. You’ve mentioned that enough that you are clearly trying to will it into existence.

However, it’s laughable to say that there wouldn’t be broad support for another Tj, which would allow double the amount of Fairfax kids to go to an elite school. You don’t think the professional class in Fairfax would love that prospect and maybe even stick around to send their kids there rather than go private?


My kids wouldn’t go to this school but I know the history and that the western HS has always been envisioned as a neighborhood school for areas that got frequently redistricted and wanted more stability.

TJ is a headache as it is for FCPS and relatively few want FCPS further cannibalizing strong neighborhood schools for another magnet. You can put a fork in the idea of TJ West in FCPS.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m stirring the pot, but many here are thinking outside the box, so here’s my crazy idea. Since so many people seem to hate IB, why not make South Lakes into TJ Northwest and KAA a regular neighborhood high school. Don’t a lot of Langley and Mclean kids get into TJ, but decide to stay in their district because TJ is so far? SL would be a good option. Current SL Lakes kids could go to KAA and Herndon. Maybe even some can backfill at Langley. Hey, they could even do some kind of aviation academy too with all the smart kids.


So, now we have moved into the third option presented since the news about the purchase:

The Beginning: Objections because of the "process" even though this need has been in the work and approved for years.

Next: Let's make it a magnet school.

Now: Let's make South Lakes a magnet so that their kids can go to Herndon and KAA.

Wonder who is coming up with these ideas?

And, who knew so many Langley kids turned down TJ?


And we wonder where you live. Could it be that you’re the insufferable entitled who thinks she’s owed a $150 million handout from Fairfax taxpayers?

No need to answer, it’s rhetorical, we know who you are.


Trying to follow. What about the $150 million? I have no dog in this fight. We live close to our high school, and will not get moved. I just threw that idea out there. The Oakton idea sounds good though.
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Anonymous wrote:If you think people complaining about FCPS spending $150M for something that’s been in the plans for 20 years is bad, wait to see how they react to spending $150M for something (Aviation Acadeny, TJ West, etc) that’s been in no plans.


Well, just to play devils advocate here, people appear to be upset about the secrecy and lack of disclosure, not necessarily about the school; and just because you spent 20 years assuming that the western school would benefit your area doesn’t mean that the school board is beholden to you.


No one is upset about nonexistent "secrecy"'except one poster on here, you.


Not just on here, aren’t you up in arms about some next door posts? Weird that you just conveniently forget your talking points when it suits your argument.


The only person desperately parroting talking points is you.

The rest of us are discussing this great new school!


So you really think that the budget should revolve around you? It’d be interesting to take a poll of Fairfax county to see how many people would support a magnet over a school devoted to fixing pretend capacity issues in your area. (Though I’ll concede that your split feeder situation does suck, but will remind you that you bought your house knowing the situation).

I think you’d probably get 80% support a new magnet with available options for their kids to go to it if they are smart enough.

It’s the reason it’s actually being discussed by the board, rather than just anonymous internet buffoons on an anonymous forum pretending like they deserve a school just because there was a placeholder in the CIP.

I think you two are pushing back so vociferously because you know I’m right. The community would be ecstatic to get a magnet west over placating a bunch of insufferable constituents who believe they are owed anything.


Of course people would vote that way because they would potentially benefit from a magnet school, whereas if they aren't in the area of KAA they wouldn't benefit from it. People are obviously going to vote in their self interest.


Honestly, most people are not interested in a magnet--except, maybe DCUM.


People in the western part of the county for sure are interested. Imagine not having to schlep to Alexandria every day because your kid’s a genius.


No. They are tired of their neighborhoods being split off.


Some people are thinking more long term. I agree neighborhoods should stick together but that doesn't mean entire zip codes.


With the neighborhoods close to KAA, it is the neighborhoods.



I don’t disagree that neighborhoods near KAA want to go to that school, but the people pretending like there isn’t broad support for a TJ-type school in that part of Fairfax are just self-interested and aren’t being serious.


DP. I doubt there's "broad" public support for another magnet and in any event the School Board has enough on its hands with TJ. You can keep complaining about TJ's location relative to western Fairfax, but overall the school facilities in western Fairfax are nicer than in eastern Fairfax. Not to mention that the "western HS" has always been envisioned primarily as a neighborhood high school that would create more stability in the Floris/Oak Hill area, which has been redistricted multiple times over the past 25 years.


Yes, we get that you envisioned the school as your own. You’ve mentioned that enough that you are clearly trying to will it into existence.

However, it’s laughable to say that there wouldn’t be broad support for another Tj, which would allow double the amount of Fairfax kids to go to an elite school. You don’t think the professional class in Fairfax would love that prospect and maybe even stick around to send their kids there rather than go private?

There isn't even broad support for the existing TJ. Most people outside DCUM hate that school and hate that public money is being spent on a special school for only certain kids. It's the epitome of inequity.
I'm not worried at all that the new school would be turned into some kind of magnet. They can't even agree on the admissions process for the one they already have. Those offhand comments by the board members were just sound bites for the press, "what ifs" and "could be's" to pat themselves on the back for their crazy smart purchase - nothing more.


Exactly this.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m stirring the pot, but many here are thinking outside the box, so here’s my crazy idea. Since so many people seem to hate IB, why not make South Lakes into TJ Northwest and KAA a regular neighborhood high school. Don’t a lot of Langley and Mclean kids get into TJ, but decide to stay in their district because TJ is so far? SL would be a good option. Current SL Lakes kids could go to KAA and Herndon. Maybe even some can backfill at Langley. Hey, they could even do some kind of aviation academy too with all the smart kids.


So, now we have moved into the third option presented since the news about the purchase:

The Beginning: Objections because of the "process" even though this need has been in the work and approved for years.

Next: Let's make it a magnet school.

Now: Let's make South Lakes a magnet so that their kids can go to Herndon and KAA.

Wonder who is coming up with these ideas?

And, who knew so many Langley kids turned down TJ?


And we wonder where you live. Could it be that you’re the insufferable entitled who thinks she’s owed a $150 million handout from Fairfax taxpayers?

No need to answer, it’s rhetorical, we know who you are.

You sound ridiculous. Is every school building a handout? Maybe they should shut a few more down and sell them so taxpayers pay less. Just shove everyone into a few giant schools as tightly packed as possible, regardless of commutes and communities.


Someone should write a dissertation on the types of people who push to redistrict other people’s kids with reckless abandon in the name of equity, but then ardently fight to get their own kids in the best situation possible.

And we see your true colors, shining through.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’m stirring the pot, but many here are thinking outside the box, so here’s my crazy idea. Since so many people seem to hate IB, why not make South Lakes into TJ Northwest and KAA a regular neighborhood high school. Don’t a lot of Langley and Mclean kids get into TJ, but decide to stay in their district because TJ is so far? SL would be a good option. Current SL Lakes kids could go to KAA and Herndon. Maybe even some can backfill at Langley. Hey, they could even do some kind of aviation academy too with all the smart kids.


So, now we have moved into the third option presented since the news about the purchase:

The Beginning: Objections because of the "process" even though this need has been in the work and approved for years.

Next: Let's make it a magnet school.

Now: Let's make South Lakes a magnet so that their kids can go to Herndon and KAA.

Wonder who is coming up with these ideas?

And, who knew so many Langley kids turned down TJ?


And we wonder where you live. Could it be that you’re the insufferable entitled who thinks she’s owed a $150 million handout from Fairfax taxpayers?

No need to answer, it’s rhetorical, we know who you are.

You sound ridiculous. Is every school building a handout? Maybe they should shut a few more down and sell them so taxpayers pay less. Just shove everyone into a few giant schools as tightly packed as possible, regardless of commutes and communities.


Someone should write a dissertation on the types of people who push to redistrict other people’s kids with reckless abandon in the name of equity, but then ardently fight to get their own kids in the best situation possible.

And we see your true colors, shining through.


Interesting. Someone is really on the attack here. And, she is accusing more than one poster of having malice. Interesting.
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