Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with the theory that she does something to fill the headlines to squash other news, such as how she’s said nothing about Israel-Palestine or about using so much fuel on her jets.

Her dad telling Travis to go out in front of the fans is absolutely meant to make fans go wild, record videos, and dominate the headlines over any bad Taylor news.





What do you want Taylor Swift to say about the Israel/Gaza conflict? Serious question.


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She had death threats after making comments about voting for women’s rights when an Uber conservative woman was running in Tennessee. Why on earth would she get in the middle of this conflict?


Seriously! She is smarter than university Presidents who put themselves in the middle of the mess by saying stupid things.


Yep, “normal” people who have spoken out are now fired, and probably Unhireable for the time being.
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Anonymous wrote:I know I’m being a total sap but I love this so much. I love the video of Travis and her dad. I think her dad is just as smitten! I might be naive but I don’t care, this is sweet stuff. I love love.


This exactly. I hope they get married and have a bunch of kids.


She’s 33, better hurry if she wants kids!

This is dumb af. Plenty of regular career women wait longer than that to have kids. I’m pregnant now at 30 and the average age at my OB’s office is 38 (although that isn’t all first pregnancies).


OBs lie, dear. The are salesmen/women at the end of the day. And they get paid the more old hags they can extract $30,000+ from. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Often the mother and/or baby has health issues. It is so strange how this forum tries to act like waiting until you're too old to be a mom naturally is cool, when it is actually depressing (if more ways than one) and unnatural.


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33 is not too old to be a mom naturally and a lot of this is dependent on your own personal genetics. There have been plenty of studies that have shown that extended fertility is related to overall longevity. So for example my grandmother had pregnancies into her late thirties and lived until mid 90s. My parents also had an accidental pregnancy at 41 that resulted in my completely normal and healthy younger brother. There’s no one in my family that has had fertility problems and they all are pretty long-lived. I’m sorry for you and your kin since apparently their eggs turn to powder at 33. But you couldn’t possibly know Taylor’s actual risk of infertility issues without knowing her family history and personal health information. And frankly if she wanted to have kids she could do that at any time she doesn’t have to wait for the first dumb jock to date her.


I have a very large family. If I look at the women in my family who gave birth in their late 30s, literally every single child had at least some issues; from relatively minor to... spending weeks in the hospital after birth, to life-threatening allergies, to speech impediments, to autism. In my very large family, it is clear the youngest child, born when mom was geriatric, is the weakest of the litter.
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Anonymous wrote:I know I’m being a total sap but I love this so much. I love the video of Travis and her dad. I think her dad is just as smitten! I might be naive but I don’t care, this is sweet stuff. I love love.


This exactly. I hope they get married and have a bunch of kids.


She’s 33, better hurry if she wants kids!

This is dumb af. Plenty of regular career women wait longer than that to have kids. I’m pregnant now at 30 and the average age at my OB’s office is 38 (although that isn’t all first pregnancies).


OBs lie, dear. The are salesmen/women at the end of the day. And they get paid the more old hags they can extract $30,000+ from. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Often the mother and/or baby has health issues. It is so strange how this forum tries to act like waiting until you're too old to be a mom naturally is cool, when it is actually depressing (if more ways than one) and unnatural.


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33 is not too old to be a mom naturally and a lot of this is dependent on your own personal genetics. There have been plenty of studies that have shown that extended fertility is related to overall longevity. So for example my grandmother had pregnancies into her late thirties and lived until mid 90s. My parents also had an accidental pregnancy at 41 that resulted in my completely normal and healthy younger brother. There’s no one in my family that has had fertility problems and they all are pretty long-lived. I’m sorry for you and your kin since apparently their eggs turn to powder at 33. But you couldn’t possibly know Taylor’s actual risk of infertility issues without knowing her family history and personal health information. And frankly if she wanted to have kids she could do that at any time she doesn’t have to wait for the first dumb jock to date her.


I have a very large family. If I look at the women in my family who gave birth in their late 30s, literally every single child had at least some issues; from relatively minor to... spending weeks in the hospital after birth, to life-threatening allergies, to speech impediments, to autism. In my very large family, it is clear the youngest child, born when mom was geriatric, is the weakest of the litter.


You have bad genes. I am one of 8 kids. My 2 youngest siblings were born when my mom was in her early 40s. Both have genius IQs and both were on It's Academic.
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Anonymous wrote:I know I’m being a total sap but I love this so much. I love the video of Travis and her dad. I think her dad is just as smitten! I might be naive but I don’t care, this is sweet stuff. I love love.


This exactly. I hope they get married and have a bunch of kids.


She’s 33, better hurry if she wants kids!

This is dumb af. Plenty of regular career women wait longer than that to have kids. I’m pregnant now at 30 and the average age at my OB’s office is 38 (although that isn’t all first pregnancies).


OBs lie, dear. The are salesmen/women at the end of the day. And they get paid the more old hags they can extract $30,000+ from. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Often the mother and/or baby has health issues. It is so strange how this forum tries to act like waiting until you're too old to be a mom naturally is cool, when it is actually depressing (if more ways than one) and unnatural.


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33 is not too old to be a mom naturally and a lot of this is dependent on your own personal genetics. There have been plenty of studies that have shown that extended fertility is related to overall longevity. So for example my grandmother had pregnancies into her late thirties and lived until mid 90s. My parents also had an accidental pregnancy at 41 that resulted in my completely normal and healthy younger brother. There’s no one in my family that has had fertility problems and they all are pretty long-lived. I’m sorry for you and your kin since apparently their eggs turn to powder at 33. But you couldn’t possibly know Taylor’s actual risk of infertility issues without knowing her family history and personal health information. And frankly if she wanted to have kids she could do that at any time she doesn’t have to wait for the first dumb jock to date her.


I have a very large family. If I look at the women in my family who gave birth in their late 30s, literally every single child had at least some issues; from relatively minor to... spending weeks in the hospital after birth, to life-threatening allergies, to speech impediments, to autism. In my very large family, it is clear the youngest child, born when mom was geriatric, is the weakest of the litter.


I was going to ignore this discussion because it's totally off-topic BUT I have a bit of experience with being a so-called "geriatric" mother.

I had my first kid when I was 33 and my last when I was 40. All 3 of them were healthy infants, and they've all grown up to be healthy and relatively successful young people. And the youngest, so far, has been probably the most (objectively) successful - she was a Rhodes Scholar finalist. I'm sorry your "very large family" has so many issues, but not everyone's family is the same.

Back to Taylor - she probably wants to have children soon for no other reason than almost all her close friends have kids. She's may be feeling a little left out.
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Anonymous wrote:I know I’m being a total sap but I love this so much. I love the video of Travis and her dad. I think her dad is just as smitten! I might be naive but I don’t care, this is sweet stuff. I love love.


This exactly. I hope they get married and have a bunch of kids.


She’s 33, better hurry if she wants kids!

This is dumb af. Plenty of regular career women wait longer than that to have kids. I’m pregnant now at 30 and the average age at my OB’s office is 38 (although that isn’t all first pregnancies).


OBs lie, dear. The are salesmen/women at the end of the day. And they get paid the more old hags they can extract $30,000+ from. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Often the mother and/or baby has health issues. It is so strange how this forum tries to act like waiting until you're too old to be a mom naturally is cool, when it is actually depressing (if more ways than one) and unnatural.


Brunch granny has discovered Taylor swift!

I had my second baby mid 30s and it was not hard and there was nothing unnatural about it.



People choosing to have kids when they are considered advanced in maternal age is not really a problem for the rest of us to be concerned about. Even if they die before their kids are grown adults, I am guessing they will leave enough resources behind to ensure their kids are well provided for. I just looked up Antony Blinken. He is 61 and has a three year old child at home. Should he be home working on potty training or traveling from country to country as he's doing? Nobody questions when men have children late. So he might not be able to walk his daughter down the aisle or have a father-daughter dance with her at the wedding. Big whoop. Before you ask, his spouse is 52. TS has a billionaire dollars at her disposal. She can do whatever she wants.


Our country's special education numbers have grown dramatically in no small part due to this line of thinking.


N = 1, but: Yale grad, PhD. Public schools. No special services of any kind at any point. My Mom was 39 when I was born. I do wear glasses though, but now, at my age, most people do.


DP. I am sure your Yale education taught you that anecdotes are not data. It is well established by now that older eggs and sperm have a higher number of chromosomal alterations, and that the number of alterations tends to increase linearly with age (particularly for sperm). I think people believe that if there’s no miscarriage the embryo is just as healthy as one from younger parents. It’s unfortunately not the case. Chromosomal deletions and duplications are linked to all kinds of things including conditions that affect cognitive functioning and mental health.

If you use data to support your positions on other issues like gun violence and climate change, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to ignore data on other topics just because it goes against what you want to believe.


NP but you are cherry picking your own data. Women don't have babies in a vacuum, they have them in the real world. There is no arguing that because of sociodemographic factors, it is much better for a baby to be born to a late 30s/early 40s mom than an early 20s one. These.are.facts. Look up rates of crimes, high school graduation, overall health, etc. and you will find older moms have kids who are better off, OVERWHELMINGLY.
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Anonymous wrote:I know I’m being a total sap but I love this so much. I love the video of Travis and her dad. I think her dad is just as smitten! I might be naive but I don’t care, this is sweet stuff. I love love.


This exactly. I hope they get married and have a bunch of kids.


She’s 33, better hurry if she wants kids!

This is dumb af. Plenty of regular career women wait longer than that to have kids. I’m pregnant now at 30 and the average age at my OB’s office is 38 (although that isn’t all first pregnancies).


OBs lie, dear. The are salesmen/women at the end of the day. And they get paid the more old hags they can extract $30,000+ from. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Often the mother and/or baby has health issues. It is so strange how this forum tries to act like waiting until you're too old to be a mom naturally is cool, when it is actually depressing (if more ways than one) and unnatural.


Brunch granny has discovered Taylor swift!

I had my second baby mid 30s and it was not hard and there was nothing unnatural about it.



People choosing to have kids when they are considered advanced in maternal age is not really a problem for the rest of us to be concerned about. Even if they die before their kids are grown adults, I am guessing they will leave enough resources behind to ensure their kids are well provided for. I just looked up Antony Blinken. He is 61 and has a three year old child at home. Should he be home working on potty training or traveling from country to country as he's doing? Nobody questions when men have children late. So he might not be able to walk his daughter down the aisle or have a father-daughter dance with her at the wedding. Big whoop. Before you ask, his spouse is 52. TS has a billionaire dollars at her disposal. She can do whatever she wants.


Our country's special education numbers have grown dramatically in no small part due to this line of thinking.


N = 1, but: Yale grad, PhD. Public schools. No special services of any kind at any point. My Mom was 39 when I was born. I do wear glasses though, but now, at my age, most people do.


DP. I am sure your Yale education taught you that anecdotes are not data. It is well established by now that older eggs and sperm have a higher number of chromosomal alterations, and that the number of alterations tends to increase linearly with age (particularly for sperm). I think people believe that if there’s no miscarriage the embryo is just as healthy as one from younger parents. It’s unfortunately not the case. Chromosomal deletions and duplications are linked to all kinds of things including conditions that affect cognitive functioning and mental health.

If you use data to support your positions on other issues like gun violence and climate change, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to ignore data on other topics just because it goes against what you want to believe.


NP but you are cherry picking your own data. Women don't have babies in a vacuum, they have them in the real world. There is no arguing that because of sociodemographic factors, it is much better for a baby to be born to a late 30s/early 40s mom than an early 20s one. These.are.facts. Look up rates of crimes, high school graduation, overall health, etc. and you will find older moms have kids who are better off, OVERWHELMINGLY.


Talk about cherry picking! Why would the only two comparison groups be early 20s vs. late 30s/early 40s? Why exclude ages 25-35? Oh because it wouldn't fit your argument, would it?
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Omg shut up already about old vs young moms. For all we know she doesn’t want kids
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Anonymous wrote:I know I’m being a total sap but I love this so much. I love the video of Travis and her dad. I think her dad is just as smitten! I might be naive but I don’t care, this is sweet stuff. I love love.


This exactly. I hope they get married and have a bunch of kids.


She’s 33, better hurry if she wants kids!

This is dumb af. Plenty of regular career women wait longer than that to have kids. I’m pregnant now at 30 and the average age at my OB’s office is 38 (although that isn’t all first pregnancies).


OBs lie, dear. The are salesmen/women at the end of the day. And they get paid the more old hags they can extract $30,000+ from. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Often the mother and/or baby has health issues. It is so strange how this forum tries to act like waiting until you're too old to be a mom naturally is cool, when it is actually depressing (if more ways than one) and unnatural.


+1


33 is not too old to be a mom naturally and a lot of this is dependent on your own personal genetics. There have been plenty of studies that have shown that extended fertility is related to overall longevity. So for example my grandmother had pregnancies into her late thirties and lived until mid 90s. My parents also had an accidental pregnancy at 41 that resulted in my completely normal and healthy younger brother. There’s no one in my family that has had fertility problems and they all are pretty long-lived. I’m sorry for you and your kin since apparently their eggs turn to powder at 33. But you couldn’t possibly know Taylor’s actual risk of infertility issues without knowing her family history and personal health information. And frankly if she wanted to have kids she could do that at any time she doesn’t have to wait for the first dumb jock to date her.


I have a very large family. If I look at the women in my family who gave birth in their late 30s, literally every single child had at least some issues; from relatively minor to... spending weeks in the hospital after birth, to life-threatening allergies, to speech impediments, to autism. In my very large family, it is clear the youngest child, born when mom was geriatric, is the weakest of the litter.


I was going to ignore this discussion because it's totally off-topic BUT I have a bit of experience with being a so-called "geriatric" mother.

I had my first kid when I was 33 and my last when I was 40. All 3 of them were healthy infants, and they've all grown up to be healthy and relatively successful young people. And the youngest, so far, has been probably the most (objectively) successful - she was a Rhodes Scholar finalist. I'm sorry your "very large family" has so many issues, but not everyone's family is the same.

Back to Taylor - she probably wants to have children soon for no other reason than almost all her close friends have kids. She's may be feeling a little left out.


I think TS is immune to most pressure. It'll be interetsing to see what happens. Brittany Mahomes is 28 and Kylie Kelce is 31. And she's been hanging with these gals (two of whom have young children, including Brittany and Kylie):

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Can the weird women obsessed with forcing Taylor to have babies SOON with a person she has been dating at best four months please go back to one of your 10000 other threads where that debate is already going on this board?

I think Taylor and Travis may make babies but for the love of god, can we not turn this into a debate about maternal age. It's exhausting and I want to have at least one place on this dang site where I dont have to have a bunch of insecure and/or sanctimonious people jusftiying a personal decision.
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There is a massive troll on this thread it is so annoying
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This thread is the epitome of Anti-Hero.
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Anonymous wrote:Can the weird women obsessed with forcing Taylor to have babies SOON with a person she has been dating at best four months please go back to one of your 10000 other threads where that debate is already going on this board?

I think Taylor and Travis may make babies but for the love of god, can we not turn this into a debate about maternal age. It's exhausting and I want to have at least one place on this dang site where I dont have to have a bunch of insecure and/or sanctimonious people jusftiying a personal decision.


Good point. In this thread there has also been "put a baby in her" wording. I think it's the same poster fixated on this couple being intimate.
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Anonymous wrote:This thread is the epitome of Anti-Hero.
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Anonymous wrote:I know I’m being a total sap but I love this so much. I love the video of Travis and her dad. I think her dad is just as smitten! I might be naive but I don’t care, this is sweet stuff. I love love.


This exactly. I hope they get married and have a bunch of kids.


She’s 33, better hurry if she wants kids!

This is dumb af. Plenty of regular career women wait longer than that to have kids. I’m pregnant now at 30 and the average age at my OB’s office is 38 (although that isn’t all first pregnancies).


OBs lie, dear. The are salesmen/women at the end of the day. And they get paid the more old hags they can extract $30,000+ from. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Often the mother and/or baby has health issues. It is so strange how this forum tries to act like waiting until you're too old to be a mom naturally is cool, when it is actually depressing (if more ways than one) and unnatural.


Brunch granny has discovered Taylor swift!

I had my second baby mid 30s and it was not hard and there was nothing unnatural about it.



People choosing to have kids when they are considered advanced in maternal age is not really a problem for the rest of us to be concerned about. Even if they die before their kids are grown adults, I am guessing they will leave enough resources behind to ensure their kids are well provided for. I just looked up Antony Blinken. He is 61 and has a three year old child at home. Should he be home working on potty training or traveling from country to country as he's doing? Nobody questions when men have children late. So he might not be able to walk his daughter down the aisle or have a father-daughter dance with her at the wedding. Big whoop. Before you ask, his spouse is 52. TS has a billionaire dollars at her disposal. She can do whatever she wants.


Our country's special education numbers have grown dramatically in no small part due to this line of thinking.


N = 1, but: Yale grad, PhD. Public schools. No special services of any kind at any point. My Mom was 39 when I was born. I do wear glasses though, but now, at my age, most people do.


DP. I am sure your Yale education taught you that anecdotes are not data. It is well established by now that older eggs and sperm have a higher number of chromosomal alterations, and that the number of alterations tends to increase linearly with age (particularly for sperm). I think people believe that if there’s no miscarriage the embryo is just as healthy as one from younger parents. It’s unfortunately not the case. Chromosomal deletions and duplications are linked to all kinds of things including conditions that affect cognitive functioning and mental health.

If you use data to support your positions on other issues like gun violence and climate change, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to ignore data on other topics just because it goes against what you want to believe.


NP but you are cherry picking your own data. Women don't have babies in a vacuum, they have them in the real world. There is no arguing that because of sociodemographic factors, it is much better for a baby to be born to a late 30s/early 40s mom than an early 20s one. These.are.facts. Look up rates of crimes, high school graduation, overall health, etc. and you will find older moms have kids who are better off, OVERWHELMINGLY.


Talk about cherry picking! Why would the only two comparison groups be early 20s vs. late 30s/early 40s? Why exclude ages 25-35? Oh because it wouldn't fit your argument, would it?
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You can’t possibly be this dumb, can you? The point is biology versus socioeconomic demographics, so yes, you show both ends of the spectrum. a woman is very fertile and has high-quality eggs at age 20, but women who have babies much later in life tend to be much more educated, have stable, careers, and stable lives. That’s the point.
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This relationship is so bad for her brand. She usually dates posh handsome British guys. Now she’s dating a dumb ugly jock who isn’t even a quarterback? Look at the low caliber of women Kelce dated before her — because he is low class. Look at who the older two tight end superstars and who dated — Tony Gonzales was married to Jeff Bezos’s train wreck fiancée and Gronk dates random instagram dummies.

I just hope her NFL checks were worth it. She needs to get away from this idiot asap.
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