William and mary for premed

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know if WM has a higher acceptance to med school than other VA colleges like JMU, CNU, VT, etc

also, is the grade deflation for premed courses really bad?

[Anonymous]

Yes, you have to earn your grades at W&M but medical schools and other graduate programs recognize this, so a 3.4 at W&M is equivalent to a 3.8 at JMU.

For a more quantitative measure the admit rate for W&M is 15-20% higher than the national average for medical school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, you have to earn your grades at W&M but medical schools and other graduate programs recognize this, so a 3.4 at W&M is equivalent to a 3.8 at JMU.

For a more quantitative measure the admit rate for W&M is 15-20% higher than the national average for medical school.

Citation for that statement?
DP

[Anonymous]

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/william-and-mary-med-school-acceptance-rate/1285594

Generally our students are accepted into medical school at rates about 15-20% higher than the national average (which is usually in the 40s). If you have questions about pre-med at W&M, contact Dr. Bev Sher, our pre-med advisor. She’s a great resource for students.

[Anonymous]

all bets are off if the MCAT gets dumped

[Anonymous]

MCAT and other tests do not have an impact on admissions that are racially biased. It it only when universities add or subtract points from the score based on race that the problem occurs.

Court will most likely favor qualitative factors and assign numbers to applications, only variable they will allow to be included is gender to allow universities to keep at least a 60/40 f/m ratio.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if WM has a higher acceptance to med school than other VA colleges like JMU, CNU, VT, etc

also, is the grade deflation for premed courses really bad?

If you contact W&M's pre-med advisor, they will probably give you actual data. In fact, reaching out would probably be your best course of action. You can find contact information on the website. Historically, I think it is about 60% or so vs. national rate of 40%. I don't know about JMU, CNU, VT. I don't think they publish anything, but they might provide something if you contact them.

William & Mary will likely have a significantly higher percentage of students applying to medical school than JMU, CNU, and VT. There is data out there on the web on that. That can be good in that it actually helps to have fellow travelers on the process, but it could be bad if there are are too many. I don't think this is the case at W&M. I think of JHU as a case where there may be too many pre-meds.

W&M doesn't have grade deflation. Neither do JMU, CNU, VT. Pre-med track courses will be difficult at all schools, but that is different from grade inflation. W&M actually has very high average GPAs for a public school. I think the average GPA is now above 3.5.

Admission to medical schools is largely stat (GPA and MCAT) driven. For an undergraduate school, you want a place where you will be comfortable and do well, and factors like advising, quality of science teaching, and access to professors for research and recommendations can be a benefit.

[Anonymous]

I think W&M (and probably UVA) have somewhat higher medical school acceptance rates than schools like JMU, CNU, and VT. But much of this may be that the average MCAT score of applicants was higher because their average SAT score coming in was higher. They are very likely correlated. The real question is if you could take the same student (with the same entering SAT) through all these schools, would there be a difference in medical school application success?

In my experience, there is a huge melt in pre-med. You may want to look at schools from the perspective of whether or not the aspiring pre-med will get discouraged in that environment. In other words, would they feel comfortable and motivated?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think W&M (and probably UVA) have somewhat higher medical school acceptance rates than schools like JMU, CNU, and VT. But much of this may be that the average MCAT score of applicants was higher because their average SAT score coming in was higher. They are very likely correlated. The real question is if you could take the same student (with the same entering SAT) through all these schools, would there be a difference in medical school application success?

In my experience, there is a huge melt in pre-med. You may want to look at schools from the perspective of whether or not the aspiring pre-med will get discouraged in that environment. In other words, would they feel comfortable and motivated?

What do you mean by "melt"?

[Anonymous]

I would think dropping out of pre-med as possibly grades are not high enough, taking a hit on gpa, or suddenly recognizing that Chemistry is not for them. Just as examples.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think W&M (and probably UVA) have somewhat higher medical school acceptance rates than schools like JMU, CNU, and VT. But much of this may be that the average MCAT score of applicants was higher because their average SAT score coming in was higher. They are very likely correlated. The real question is if you could take the same student (with the same entering SAT) through all these schools, would there be a difference in medical school application success?

In my experience, there is a huge melt in pre-med. You may want to look at schools from the perspective of whether or not the aspiring pre-med will get discouraged in that environment. In other words, would they feel comfortable and motivated?

What do you mean by "melt"?

Losing interest or the will to stick with pre-med. The melt is the difference between the # of students entering intending to apply to medical school and the number that actually applies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, you have to earn your grades at W&M but medical schools and other graduate programs recognize this, so a 3.4 at W&M is equivalent to a 3.8 at JMU.

For a more quantitative measure the admit rate for W&M is 15-20% higher than the national average for medical school.

You think premed courses at, say, JMU are easy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/william-and-mary-med-school-acceptance-rate/1285594

Generally our students are accepted into medical school at rates about 15-20% higher than the national average (which is usually in the 40s). If you have questions about pre-med at W&M, contact Dr. Bev Sher, our pre-med advisor. She’s a great resource for students.

Isn’t this stat gamed by colleges refusing to write premed advising committee letters for certain students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, you have to earn your grades at W&M but medical schools and other graduate programs recognize this, so a 3.4 at W&M is equivalent to a 3.8 at JMU.

For a more quantitative measure the admit rate for W&M is 15-20% higher than the national average for medical school.

You think premed courses at, say, JMU are easy?

Easier yes. But premed courses such as organic chemistry are more challenging than most college courses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/william-and-mary-med-school-acceptance-rate/1285594

Generally our students are accepted into medical school at rates about 15-20% higher than the national average (which is usually in the 40s). If you have questions about pre-med at W&M, contact Dr. Bev Sher, our pre-med advisor. She’s a great resource for students.

Isn’t this stat gamed by colleges refusing to write premed advising committee letters for certain students?

I don't think W&M does that.