Bon Appetit article on tipping

[Anonymous]

What do you all think?
https://www.bonappetit.com/story/restaurant-check-fees-explained?utm_campaign=likeshopme&utm_medium=social&utm_source=instagram&utm_content=instagram-bio-link&client_service_name=bonappetitmag&client_service_id=31198&service_user_id=1.78e+16&supported_service_name=instagram_publishing&utm_social_type=owned&utm_brand=ba

I don’t really appreciate the comment at the end: “However a restaurant decides to structure its pay, you as the diner should trust what they’re doing. It’s insane to think you can go into dinner and walk away understanding the intricacies of running a business.” I don’t trust them, I don’t know them! I want to feel like the restaurant is paying its employees fairly AND that I’m getting value for money. I know it is a difficult business, but that doesn’t mean I want to pay multiples of the menu price whenever I go to a restaurant. I’d prefer the full (tip, wages whatever) price to just be on the menu.

[Anonymous]

I don't care what kind of charges they include, at the end of the day, I'm only giving 20% on food items ordered minus taxes. If they include any kinds of fees, etc. that gets subtracted from the 20%.

If the service charge is 20%, they're not getting another dime.

[Anonymous]

We recently went to a restaurant in DC that had automatic 20% service charge and I didn't feel the need to tip anything on top of that. Service was fine but the kind where you had to flag her down if you wanted another drink and more water. I am usually put off by restaurants that do this because I feel like the service is always just ok at restaurants like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't care what kind of charges they include, at the end of the day, I'm only giving 20% on food items ordered minus taxes. If they include any kinds of fees, etc. that gets subtracted from the 20%.

If the service charge is 20%, they're not getting another dime.

+1

[Anonymous]

The word is not 'trust'. It's 'accept'.

That is a lazily written sentence.

Also I did not read the article, speaking of lazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We recently went to a restaurant in DC that had automatic 20% service charge and I didn't feel the need to tip anything on top of that. Service was fine but the kind where you had to flag her down if you wanted another drink and more water. I am usually put off by restaurants that do this because I feel like the service is always just ok at restaurants like this.

That sounds like the normal restaurant experience where people are expected to tip.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We recently went to a restaurant in DC that had automatic 20% service charge and I didn't feel the need to tip anything on top of that. Service was fine but the kind where you had to flag her down if you wanted another drink and more water. I am usually put off by restaurants that do this because I feel like the service is always just ok at restaurants like this.

That sounds like the normal restaurant experience where people are expected to tip.

I'm the PP - do you mean tip beyond the 20% they already tacked on to my bill? I wasn't going to do that.

[Anonymous]

Absurd. Restaurants have all raised prices and need to pay workers a living wage. I'm not doing a service fee, tip, taxes, plus the meal. At some point it makes it unaffordable to go out.

[Anonymous]

I hate those guilt inducing tip flip screens for counter service.

[Anonymous]

Service fees may not be tip. If you don’t like it go somewhere else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What do you all think?
https://www.bonappetit.com/story/restaurant-check-fees-explained?utm_campaign=likeshopme&utm_medium=social&utm_source=instagram&utm_content=instagram-bio-link&client_service_name=bonappetitmag&client_service_id=31198&service_user_id=1.78e+16&supported_service_name=instagram_publishing&utm_social_type=owned&utm_brand=ba

I don’t really appreciate the comment at the end: “However a restaurant decides to structure its pay, you as the diner should trust what they’re doing. It’s insane to think you can go into dinner and walk away understanding the intricacies of running a business.” I don’t trust them, I don’t know them! I want to feel like the restaurant is paying its employees fairly AND that I’m getting value for money. I know it is a difficult business, but that doesn’t mean I want to pay multiples of the menu price whenever I go to a restaurant. I’d prefer the full (tip, wages whatever) price to just be on the menu.

Way to patronize the customer. Restaurants act like they’re doing paying diners a big favor when it’s the other way around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Service fees may not be tip. If you don’t like it go somewhere else.

Exactly. I will be going elsewhere. Or staying home.

[Anonymous]

I just wish I understood it, every restaurant is different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Service fees may not be tip. If you don’t like it go somewhere else.

Nope. I just won’t tip. If the restaurant doesn’t like it, they can get rid of their fees. I’m not paying 20% for a made up fee + 20% for a tip. It’s one or the other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Service fees may not be tip. If you don’t like it go somewhere else.

If the service fee isn’t going to servers, where is it going?