Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study

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Anonymous wrote:QO may become 13% FARMS and majority white again. That’s wild. It will could end up being higher performing than WJ

Which option makes this 13 percent FARMS in QO HS?

I am lost in all 4 options.

option 4

Option 4 is the most extreme one which definitely has no chance.

Extreme for who? What school are you at?

Option 4 makes a lot of sense to me. It is the best option by far.

Is it because your house is not rezoned to crown in option 4? Option 4 makes no sense for most schools.

I am in Churchill for all four options. Let me summarize this for you.

Fallsgrove does not like option 4 because they go to Crown.
Stone Mill does not ike option 1 because they go to Crown.
Dufief and Falls Grove do not like option 2 because they go to Crown.
Stone Mill and Kentlands do not like option 3 because Kentlands goes to Gaithersburg and stone Mill goes to Crown.

Stonemill townhouses do not like all four options because they all go to crown. And option 2 and 4 make single families in Stonemill stay in Wootton and townhouses (in the same 40 year old neighborhood) go to crown.

Then the townhouses are going to Crown. Somebody has to go to Crown. Your best bet is taking the rest of Stone Mill with you to Crown.

Exactly. Some of these complaints are ridiculous. It’s a sparkling brand new HS. It’s not like they are being shipped to the outlands of a third world country.

Brand new so what? We don't want this new high school with 35-45% FARMS from all options. Whoever wanna go can go. Just keep Stonemill in Wotton.

It wasn’t even built for Wootton. It was built for qo, rm and Gaithersburg to alleviate overcrowding. It’s due to DEI reasons to drag Wootton in this mess.

It was built for Churchill also( 115% right now) , and since Wayside will move to Wootton, something has to go out of Wootton.

Why didn’t they include Churchill to Woodward study then? There is still plenty of space there. Why do they need to split the boundary study to two? It’s obvious manipulation to move some Wootton kids to crown to achieve DEI goals.

Because when the county tried to do a full county boundary study a few years ago there were protests and death threats so they had to split it up and tie it to new schools opening.

The county did not try to do a full county boundary study a few years ago.

So what was this: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2019/12/12/this-is-just-people-screaming-tension-boils-over-at-school-boundaries-meeting/

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Anonymous wrote:Also how does any of this work for CES assignments? Right now, it's by cluster/cluster group. For example, if you go live in Falls Grove and go to Richie Park, your CES enrichment location would be Barnsley. Would that stay that way in an option that splits the Fallsgrove Island out to Crown? I'm sure other situations like this exist. It's as if the BoE didn't have a clue what they were doing and just pulled a DOGE by telling AI to make a boundary map

Some of the splitting is less than ideal but it probably works for everybody except for Falls Grove.

Wow good point. I’m pretty sure PP is the first person to realize this including all of MCPS staff. What a mess. They have no clue what they’re doing. It’s going to be a problem in both boundary studies.

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Anonymous wrote:QO may become 13% FARMS and majority white again. That’s wild. It will could end up being higher performing than WJ

Which option makes this 13 percent FARMS in QO HS?

I am lost in all 4 options.

option 4

Option 4 is the most extreme one which definitely has no chance.

Extreme for who? What school are you at?

Option 4 makes a lot of sense to me. It is the best option by far.

Is it because your house is not rezoned to crown in option 4? Option 4 makes no sense for most schools.

I am in Churchill for all four options. Let me summarize this for you.

Fallsgrove does not like option 4 because they go to Crown.
Stone Mill does not ike option 1 because they go to Crown.
Dufief and Falls Grove do not like option 2 because they go to Crown.
Stone Mill and Kentlands do not like option 3 because Kentlands goes to Gaithersburg and stone Mill goes to Crown.

Stonemill townhouses do not like all four options because they all go to crown. And option 2 and 4 make single families in Stonemill stay in Wootton and townhouses (in the same 40 year old neighborhood) go to crown.

Then the townhouses are going to Crown. Somebody has to go to Crown. Your best bet is taking the rest of Stone Mill with you to Crown.

Exactly. Some of these complaints are ridiculous. It’s a sparkling brand new HS. It’s not like they are being shipped to the outlands of a third world country.

Brand new so what? We don't want this new high school with 35-45% FARMS from all options. Whoever wanna go can go. Just keep Stonemill in Wotton.

It wasn’t even built for Wootton. It was built for qo, rm and Gaithersburg to alleviate overcrowding. It’s due to DEI reasons to drag Wootton in this mess.

It was built for Churchill also( 115% right now) , and since Wayside will move to Wootton, something has to go out of Wootton.

Why didn’t they include Churchill to Woodward study then? There is still plenty of space there. Why do they need to split the boundary study to two? It’s obvious manipulation to move some Wootton kids to crown to achieve DEI goals.

Because when the county tried to do a full county boundary study a few years ago there were protests and death threats so they had to split it up and tie it to new schools opening.

Ooh death threats! Seriosuly? Why?

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Anonymous wrote:QO may become 13% FARMS and majority white again. That’s wild. It will could end up being higher performing than WJ

Which option makes this 13 percent FARMS in QO HS?

I am lost in all 4 options.

option 4

Option 4 is the most extreme one which definitely has no chance.

Extreme for who? What school are you at?

Option 4 makes a lot of sense to me. It is the best option by far.

Is it because your house is not rezoned to crown in option 4? Option 4 makes no sense for most schools.

I am in Churchill for all four options. Let me summarize this for you.

Fallsgrove does not like option 4 because they go to Crown.
Stone Mill does not ike option 1 because they go to Crown.
Dufief and Falls Grove do not like option 2 because they go to Crown.
Stone Mill and Kentlands do not like option 3 because Kentlands goes to Gaithersburg and stone Mill goes to Crown.

Stonemill townhouses do not like all four options because they all go to crown. And option 2 and 4 make single families in Stonemill stay in Wootton and townhouses (in the same 40 year old neighborhood) go to crown.

Then the townhouses are going to Crown. Somebody has to go to Crown. Your best bet is taking the rest of Stone Mill with you to Crown.

Exactly. Some of these complaints are ridiculous. It’s a sparkling brand new HS. It’s not like they are being shipped to the outlands of a third world country.

Brand new so what? We don't want this new high school with 35-45% FARMS from all options. Whoever wanna go can go. Just keep Stonemill in Wotton.

It wasn’t even built for Wootton. It was built for qo, rm and Gaithersburg to alleviate overcrowding. It’s due to DEI reasons to drag Wootton in this mess.

It was built for Churchill also( 115% right now) , and since Wayside will move to Wootton, something has to go out of Wootton.

Why didn’t they include Churchill to Woodward study then? There is still plenty of space there. Why do they need to split the boundary study to two? It’s obvious manipulation to move some Wootton kids to crown to achieve DEI goals.

Because when the county tried to do a full county boundary study a few years ago there were protests and death threats so they had to split it up and tie it to new schools opening.

The county did not try to do a full county boundary study a few years ago.

So what was this: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2019/12/12/this-is-just-people-screaming-tension-boils-over-at-school-boundaries-meeting/

A boundary analysis which included no proposed boundary changes.

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Anonymous wrote:QO may become 13% FARMS and majority white again. That’s wild. It will could end up being higher performing than WJ

Which option makes this 13 percent FARMS in QO HS?

I am lost in all 4 options.

option 4

Option 4 is the most extreme one which definitely has no chance.

Extreme for who? What school are you at?

Option 4 makes a lot of sense to me. It is the best option by far.

Is it because your house is not rezoned to crown in option 4? Option 4 makes no sense for most schools.

I am in Churchill for all four options. Let me summarize this for you.

Fallsgrove does not like option 4 because they go to Crown.
Stone Mill does not ike option 1 because they go to Crown.
Dufief and Falls Grove do not like option 2 because they go to Crown.
Stone Mill and Kentlands do not like option 3 because Kentlands goes to Gaithersburg and stone Mill goes to Crown.

Stonemill townhouses do not like all four options because they all go to crown. And option 2 and 4 make single families in Stonemill stay in Wootton and townhouses (in the same 40 year old neighborhood) go to crown.

Then the townhouses are going to Crown. Somebody has to go to Crown. Your best bet is taking the rest of Stone Mill with you to Crown.

Exactly. Some of these complaints are ridiculous. It’s a sparkling brand new HS. It’s not like they are being shipped to the outlands of a third world country.

Brand new so what? We don't want this new high school with 35-45% FARMS from all options. Whoever wanna go can go. Just keep Stonemill in Wotton.

It wasn’t even built for Wootton. It was built for qo, rm and Gaithersburg to alleviate overcrowding. It’s due to DEI reasons to drag Wootton in this mess.

It was built for Churchill also( 115% right now) , and since Wayside will move to Wootton, something has to go out of Wootton.

Why didn’t they include Churchill to Woodward study then? There is still plenty of space there. Why do they need to split the boundary study to two? It’s obvious manipulation to move some Wootton kids to crown to achieve DEI goals.

Because when the county tried to do a full county boundary study a few years ago there were protests and death threats so they had to split it up and tie it to new schools opening.

The county did not try to do a full county boundary study a few years ago.

So what was this: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2019/12/12/this-is-just-people-screaming-tension-boils-over-at-school-boundaries-meeting/

Why are you looking at 5 year old article in bethesda Magzine.

You can go to Woodward intial options and see capacity utilization in all 4 options. Woodward does not have extra seats.

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Anonymous wrote:QO may become 13% FARMS and majority white again. That’s wild. It will could end up being higher performing than WJ

Which option makes this 13 percent FARMS in QO HS?

I am lost in all 4 options.

option 4

Option 4 is the most extreme one which definitely has no chance.

Extreme for who? What school are you at?

Option 4 makes a lot of sense to me. It is the best option by far.

Is it because your house is not rezoned to crown in option 4? Option 4 makes no sense for most schools.

I am in Churchill for all four options. Let me summarize this for you.

Fallsgrove does not like option 4 because they go to Crown.
Stone Mill does not ike option 1 because they go to Crown.
Dufief and Falls Grove do not like option 2 because they go to Crown.
Stone Mill and Kentlands do not like option 3 because Kentlands goes to Gaithersburg and stone Mill goes to Crown.

Stonemill townhouses do not like all four options because they all go to crown. And option 2 and 4 make single families in Stonemill stay in Wootton and townhouses (in the same 40 year old neighborhood) go to crown.

Then the townhouses are going to Crown. Somebody has to go to Crown. Your best bet is taking the rest of Stone Mill with you to Crown.

Exactly. Some of these complaints are ridiculous. It’s a sparkling brand new HS. It’s not like they are being shipped to the outlands of a third world country.

Brand new so what? We don't want this new high school with 35-45% FARMS from all options. Whoever wanna go can go. Just keep Stonemill in Wotton.

It wasn’t even built for Wootton. It was built for qo, rm and Gaithersburg to alleviate overcrowding. It’s due to DEI reasons to drag Wootton in this mess.

are you kidding? Wootton's boundary is ridiculous.

Boundaries haven't changed in that area for 20 years. The country has changed in that time. Honestly, MCPS should've changed boundaries 10 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh wow that’s really bad that MCPS is splitting the townhomes in Stonemill out to Crown while leaving the SFH in Stonemill to Wootton. It’s already rough being the kid in the townhome while the kids down the street are in the big houses. The kids all walk to school together and play in the same neighborhood areas, Now the townhouse kids have to split off to go to a different school.

MCPS is known for community dividing. They simply just don’t care about kids wellbeing. All they care about is DEI and how to balance farm rate.

Given that studies have shown low income kids do better when the FARMs rate is no higher than around 30%, while higher SES kids aren't negatively impacted, I can't blame them.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh wow that’s really bad that MCPS is splitting the townhomes in Stonemill out to Crown while leaving the SFH in Stonemill to Wootton. It’s already rough being the kid in the townhome while the kids down the street are in the big houses. The kids all walk to school together and play in the same neighborhood areas, Now the townhouse kids have to split off to go to a different school.

MCPS is known for community dividing. They simply just don’t care about kids wellbeing. All they care about is DEI and how to balance farm rate.

Given that studies have shown low income kids do better when the FARMs rate is no higher than around 30%, while higher SES kids aren't negatively impacted, I can't blame them.

Okay but how does it make sense to move a lower priced townhouse community out of the school area and into a new school surrounded by condos, apartments and townhomes?

Then move a community from Wayside into Wootton.

What kind of homes do they think families with lower incomes live with? So they made Wootton richer and Crown from neighborhoods more likely with renters, lower income families, etc?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh wow that’s really bad that MCPS is splitting the townhomes in Stonemill out to Crown while leaving the SFH in Stonemill to Wootton. It’s already rough being the kid in the townhome while the kids down the street are in the big houses. The kids all walk to school together and play in the same neighborhood areas, Now the townhouse kids have to split off to go to a different school.

MCPS is known for community dividing. They simply just don’t care about kids wellbeing. All they care about is DEI and how to balance farm rate.

Given that studies have shown low income kids do better when the FARMs rate is no higher than around 30%, while higher SES kids aren't negatively impacted, I can't blame them.

Okay but how does it make sense to move a lower priced townhouse community out of the school area and into a new school surrounded by condos, apartments and townhomes?

Then move a community from Wayside into Wootton.

What kind of homes do they think families with lower incomes live with? So they made Wootton richer and Crown from neighborhoods more likely with renters, lower income families, etc?

They provided a few options. Unfortunately, no option addresses all four factors equally, so a few of the options are going to have an imbalance of FARMS rate.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh wow that’s really bad that MCPS is splitting the townhomes in Stonemill out to Crown while leaving the SFH in Stonemill to Wootton. It’s already rough being the kid in the townhome while the kids down the street are in the big houses. The kids all walk to school together and play in the same neighborhood areas, Now the townhouse kids have to split off to go to a different school.

MCPS is known for community dividing. They simply just don’t care about kids wellbeing. All they care about is DEI and how to balance farm rate.

Given that studies have shown low income kids do better when the FARMs rate is no higher than around 30%, while higher SES kids aren't negatively impacted, I can't blame them.

Okay but how does it make sense to move a lower priced townhouse community out of the school area and into a new school surrounded by condos, apartments and townhomes?

Then move a community from Wayside into Wootton.

What kind of homes do they think families with lower incomes live with? So they made Wootton richer and Crown from neighborhoods more likely with renters, lower income families, etc?

That is definitely terrible

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Anonymous wrote:QO may become 13% FARMS and majority white again. That’s wild. It will could end up being higher performing than WJ

Which option makes this 13 percent FARMS in QO HS?

I am lost in all 4 options.

option 4

Option 4 is the most extreme one which definitely has no chance.

Extreme for who? What school are you at?

Option 4 makes a lot of sense to me. It is the best option by far.

Is it because your house is not rezoned to crown in option 4? Option 4 makes no sense for most schools.

I am in Churchill for all four options. Let me summarize this for you.

Fallsgrove does not like option 4 because they go to Crown.
Stone Mill does not ike option 1 because they go to Crown.
Dufief and Falls Grove do not like option 2 because they go to Crown.
Stone Mill and Kentlands do not like option 3 because Kentlands goes to Gaithersburg and stone Mill goes to Crown.

Stonemill townhouses do not like all four options because they all go to crown. And option 2 and 4 make single families in Stonemill stay in Wootton and townhouses (in the same 40 year old neighborhood) go to crown.

Then the townhouses are going to Crown. Somebody has to go to Crown. Your best bet is taking the rest of Stone Mill with you to Crown.

Exactly. Some of these complaints are ridiculous. It’s a sparkling brand new HS. It’s not like they are being shipped to the outlands of a third world country.

Brand new so what? We don't want this new high school with 35-45% FARMS from all options. Whoever wanna go can go. Just keep Stonemill in Wotton.

It wasn’t even built for Wootton. It was built for qo, rm and Gaithersburg to alleviate overcrowding. It’s due to DEI reasons to drag Wootton in this mess.

It was built for Churchill also( 115% right now) , and since Wayside will move to Wootton, something has to go out of Wootton.

Why didn’t they include Churchill to Woodward study then? There is still plenty of space there. Why do they need to split the boundary study to two? It’s obvious manipulation to move some Wootton kids to crown to achieve DEI goals.

I do think it was a mistake to not do it together. It make no sense to do it separately.

Having said that Woodward does not have extra seats after to you move all kids. In fact, that area all schoools are near capacity after adding Woodward.

In all options, Whitman has available space. Shifting some from Churchill to Whitman would meet much resistance and doesn’t have to disrupt Wootton at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh wow that’s really bad that MCPS is splitting the townhomes in Stonemill out to Crown while leaving the SFH in Stonemill to Wootton. It’s already rough being the kid in the townhome while the kids down the street are in the big houses. The kids all walk to school together and play in the same neighborhood areas, Now the townhouse kids have to split off to go to a different school.

MCPS is known for community dividing. They simply just don’t care about kids wellbeing. All they care about is DEI and how to balance farm rate.

Given that studies have shown low income kids do better when the FARMs rate is no higher than around 30%, while higher SES kids aren't negatively impacted, I can't blame them.

Okay but how does it make sense to move a lower priced townhouse community out of the school area and into a new school surrounded by condos, apartments and townhomes?

Then move a community from Wayside into Wootton.

What kind of homes do they think families with lower incomes live with? So they made Wootton richer and Crown from neighborhoods more likely with renters, lower income families, etc?

The issue I see is that MCPS picked on the poorer neighborhoods and schools to move to crown from Wootton and leaving the wealthy untouched.

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Anonymous wrote:QO may become 13% FARMS and majority white again. That’s wild. It will could end up being higher performing than WJ

Which option makes this 13 percent FARMS in QO HS?

I am lost in all 4 options.

option 4

Option 4 is the most extreme one which definitely has no chance.

Extreme for who? What school are you at?

Option 4 makes a lot of sense to me. It is the best option by far.

Is it because your house is not rezoned to crown in option 4? Option 4 makes no sense for most schools.

I am in Churchill for all four options. Let me summarize this for you.

Fallsgrove does not like option 4 because they go to Crown.
Stone Mill does not ike option 1 because they go to Crown.
Dufief and Falls Grove do not like option 2 because they go to Crown.
Stone Mill and Kentlands do not like option 3 because Kentlands goes to Gaithersburg and stone Mill goes to Crown.

Stonemill townhouses do not like all four options because they all go to crown. And option 2 and 4 make single families in Stonemill stay in Wootton and townhouses (in the same 40 year old neighborhood) go to crown.

Then the townhouses are going to Crown. Somebody has to go to Crown. Your best bet is taking the rest of Stone Mill with you to Crown.

Exactly. Some of these complaints are ridiculous. It’s a sparkling brand new HS. It’s not like they are being shipped to the outlands of a third world country.

Brand new so what? We don't want this new high school with 35-45% FARMS from all options. Whoever wanna go can go. Just keep Stonemill in Wotton.

It wasn’t even built for Wootton. It was built for qo, rm and Gaithersburg to alleviate overcrowding. It’s due to DEI reasons to drag Wootton in this mess.

It was built for Churchill also( 115% right now) , and since Wayside will move to Wootton, something has to go out of Wootton.

Why didn’t they include Churchill to Woodward study then? There is still plenty of space there. Why do they need to split the boundary study to two? It’s obvious manipulation to move some Wootton kids to crown to achieve DEI goals.

I do think it was a mistake to not do it together. It make no sense to do it separately.

Having said that Woodward does not have extra seats after to you move all kids. In fact, that area all schoools are near capacity after adding Woodward.

In all options, Whitman has available space. Shifting some from Churchill to Whitman would meet much resistance and doesn’t have to disrupt Wootton at all.

Agree. They could move the Avenel people to Whitman. But I don't think it will happen as they look at Crown and Woodward separately

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Anonymous wrote:Oh wow that’s really bad that MCPS is splitting the townhomes in Stonemill out to Crown while leaving the SFH in Stonemill to Wootton. It’s already rough being the kid in the townhome while the kids down the street are in the big houses. The kids all walk to school together and play in the same neighborhood areas, Now the townhouse kids have to split off to go to a different school.

MCPS is known for community dividing. They simply just don’t care about kids wellbeing. All they care about is DEI and how to balance farm rate.

Given that studies have shown low income kids do better when the FARMs rate is no higher than around 30%, while higher SES kids aren't negatively impacted, I can't blame them.

Okay but how does it make sense to move a lower priced townhouse community out of the school area and into a new school surrounded by condos, apartments and townhomes?

Then move a community from Wayside into Wootton.

What kind of homes do they think families with lower incomes live with? So they made Wootton richer and Crown from neighborhoods more likely with renters, lower income families, etc?

The issue I see is that MCPS picked on the poorer neighborhoods and schools to move to crown from Wootton and leaving the wealthy untouched.

It's not a conspiracy. Dufief and Stone Mill are closest to Crown. So there are options where they are removed from Wootton.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh wow that’s really bad that MCPS is splitting the townhomes in Stonemill out to Crown while leaving the SFH in Stonemill to Wootton. It’s already rough being the kid in the townhome while the kids down the street are in the big houses. The kids all walk to school together and play in the same neighborhood areas, Now the townhouse kids have to split off to go to a different school.

MCPS is known for community dividing. They simply just don’t care about kids wellbeing. All they care about is DEI and how to balance farm rate.

Given that studies have shown low income kids do better when the FARMs rate is no higher than around 30%, while higher SES kids aren't negatively impacted, I can't blame them.

Okay but how does it make sense to move a lower priced townhouse community out of the school area and into a new school surrounded by condos, apartments and townhomes?

Then move a community from Wayside into Wootton.

What kind of homes do they think families with lower incomes live with? So they made Wootton richer and Crown from neighborhoods more likely with renters, lower income families, etc?

The issue I see is that MCPS picked on the poorer neighborhoods and schools to move to crown from Wootton and leaving the wealthy untouched.

It's not a conspiracy. Dufief and Stone Mill are closest to Crown. So there are options where they are removed from Wootton.

No the conspiracy would be only moving the Stone Mill Townhomes to Crown, but keeping the single-family homes at Wootton