
If you have any proof that tests were bought, can you please link to a news story or any actual evidence outside of your fevered racist imagination? |
No need since that's been posted here already dozens of times. This includes multiple news stories ranging from local media to the student paper and dozens of first hand accounts. This is well established fact. However, attempting to gaslight others about it is reprehensible. |
DP. It hasn't been posted here, because it doesn't exist. There were no local media stories posted anywhere. The student paper story was about test prep being beneficial, but had nothing whatsoever to do with the Quant Q and test buying (It was pointed out earlier that the author of the article took TJ prep long before the Quant Q was in use, but you liars will keep using it as proof of something). The only firsthand account posted was an anonymous tj vents post. You're the one gaslighting by continually refusing to provide actual evidence while claiming that it's been posted "dozens of times." |
They dropped the test - because it had been compromised. They did not punish students, because that would have been wrong. They cannot punish the prep center because that's not what school districts do. So they dropped the test. You are free to continue with your strong denial, there's no need to prove anything. The test will not be coming back. Now they are using essay questions, which have their own pros and cons. |
+1 Test prep provides an unfair advantage to wealthy kids, particularly those who had access to previous questions to a test that did not have public prep materials available. TJ is a resource for the whole community, not just a handful of wealthy feeder schools. |
WRONG - in this very thread there are pages and pages of testimony and links to multiple stories. |
Yes, at one time exam scores were a much smaller piece of the discussion. I'm not referring to that. What I'm referring to is the transition beginning with the Class of 2022 to the process that gatekept the semifinalist pool to those scoring above certain percentile threshholds on the suite of three exams given - the Quant-Q and the ACT-Aspire English and Science exams. Believe it or not, under this old process, a student could achieve a literal perfect score on the "math" and "science" exams, but if their English score was in the 74th percentile, they would not be considered for admission in the semifinalist pool. Staggering. When you design an admissions process in this manner, you make it functionally impossible for a brilliant student who for whatever reason doesn't perform quite as well on an exam as peers who have spent years in expensive boutique enrichment courses preparing for those exams to get into TJ. The above should be common knowledge among people who discuss the TJ admissions process, but evidently based on your comments it is now. I apologize for my assumption. |
I mean - and this is a serious question - who cares? Why does the definition of a TJ student have to be so narrow? It has never been the case that the majority of TJ students take Linear Algebra and it was never going to be. |
FWIW, the one clear difference between the pre-admission changes and post-admission changes is the increase in SOL pass advanced scores for English. |
There is still a test, btw. It's not a lottery or any other strange admissions process that posters complain about. There are essay questions including a math/science essay question that, based on the feedback on this site immediately after the test, is challenging to answer correctly, with full explanation, within the time limit. |
DP. The existence of a few dorks (who may be false flag operators, for all I know) insisting on the "test buying" narrative doesn't discount from the fact that the Quant-Q was compromised by what happened at Curie. You're welcome to not believe that what happened happened, but that doesn't change whether or not it happened and the fact that it highlighted the weakness of using standardized exams as a gatekeeper for the TJ admissions process. For the record, I believe that there is a way to use standardized exams as part of a genuinely holistic admissions process - it just doesn't work as part of a rubric or formula and it's too easy for bad actors to misuse the data that comes from them to argue for the existence of racism in selection processes. |
I've been here for years and I've never seen any evidence to support the notion that the tests were bought. Not even one link to evidence supporting the notion that tests were bought. Not even one bit of media, local or otherwise (and buying tests for TJ would be more than local news) with any evidence or even allegation that tests were bought. All you have to do is link to one story saying that says tests were bought. It's not coming up on google, did Curie co-opt google? C'mon, be honest. You're a false flag, right? |
They dropped the test because it was driving racial disparity at the school. As the FCPS superintendent said, the test is an obstacle to racial diversity. |
If wealth drove TJ admissions, there would be a lot more white kids at TJ. |
Pages and pages of testimony and not a single link? |